Broncos WILL Trade Cutler

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Nobody wants the #1 overall. It's a liability, not an asset, anymore.

And I totally disagree that Curry and Sanchez would be any kind of coup, especially with the price tag Curry would carry.

If I were the Broncs, I'd tell Cutler's agent that we tried, but there were no worthy offers. Then tell him he can either play, or sit out and flush a ton of money. He's due like a 4 million dollar bonus this year if he plays 70% of the snaps on top of his salary -- dare him to sit that out.

But wow, people complain about our situation? Imagine being a Denver fan.
 

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Yakuza Rich;2711316 said:
Can Bowlen get any dumber?

If the situation is beyond repair, you don't announce that to the entire league because now you lose leverage come trade time.

It doesn't take a SWAT team negotiator or Warren Buffet to figure that out.



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and Jerry is the worst GM in the league? :rolleyes:

You're right but Detroit announced earlier today Stafford had a great meeting. Believe me, Denver wants the first overall for him and Detroit is looking for as much buying power as possible.

Bowlen: "Okay Detroit. You want to announce you like Stafford and consider him a viable option with the #1 overall if you won't give into our demands? Well I guess everyone else that could use a franchise QB can be in the clear known he is absolutely on the market to drive his value up. The 1st you say?"

Detroit will be a big player on this one. Detroit Give the Bronco's their 1st overall and 2rd rounder. The Broncos give Detroit the kid and their 2nd rounder. Let it be known all. This is not Madden but it is the NFL and almost exact value for a trade like this.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2711335 said:
Nobody wants the #1 overall. It's a liability, not an asset, anymore.

And I totally disagree that Curry and Sanchez would be any kind of coup, especially with the price tag Curry would carry.

If I were the Broncs, I'd tell Cutler's agent that we tried, but there were no worthy offers. Then tell him he can either play, or sit out and flush a ton of money. He's due like a 4 million dollar bonus this year if he plays 70% of the snaps on top of his salary -- dare him to sit that out.

But wow, people complain about our situation? Imagine being a Denver fan.

I agree.

This isn't sending the right message to the rest of the league.

Trust me, players will take note.

Keyshawn tried the same crap in Tampa, the team ended up suspending him.
 

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Can edit posts apparently: Detroit gives 1st overall and 3rd rounder for Cutler and Denver's 2nd rounder.
 

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THUMPER;2711263 said:
I wonder if Detroit would be willing to trade the 1st pick for him. The cap hit for that pick is enormous and if they could get Cutler plus another pick for it they would be sitting pretty and not have that huge cap hit for an unproven player.

I think the Lions would be stupid not to.
 

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Things I think on this refreshened soap opera...
-- Denver (McDaniels/Bowlen) screwed this up big time. Yes Jay is being a ***** about this but do you still think he acts the same way if McDaniels and Bowlen go to him before hand and talk to him face to face "hey, this is what we are thinking of doing, this is a business, we wanted to make you aware before any dealing was made." I think if it went that route, Jay is still ticked off but doesn't go into the tirade they're in now.
-- Cutler obviously has great talent...appears to have a mind that could win on the field with some more time and development. Has he done anything? No, but I think he gets there in time and with the right guidance. Is he a head case? No. I honestly think he's real cocky SOB right to the core and it could be controlled by the right coach/QB coach. I'd take that possible crazy cockiness over the loserdom I saw with a guy like J.P. Losman up here in the B Lo. At least it keeps things interesting.
-- Now that this is apparently official my opinion is this...Denver gets a #1 from Detroit for Cutler, the # 1 goes to KC for Cassel. McDaniels still wants his guy and after the last 3 weeks and all the talk Cutler must still sense this from McDaniels in some shape or form. KC gets another #1 to fill holes they have and they role Thigpen who is serviceable. Denver gets Cassel and doesnt get saddled down with the huge #1 pick contract...just Cassels contract :p:

I would agree Bowlen probably is wondering what the hell he's gotten into, but he's the one who initated change, he's got to ride this thing out.
Let the fun begin.
 

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PLEASE GO TO THE Commanders!!!!

Think about it guys..they have sooo many holes to fix on that team and they have ZERO pass rush..No Taylor..No Washington.

If they get Cutler they will forfeit their 13th pick this year and probably next year..That extremely cripples them trying to upgrade their team..Cutler isn't even that great, he makes ALOT of mistakes.

Their LB core is terrible and old, and getting young LB's through the draft would be extremely difficult.

Let Danny overpay!!
 

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Chocolate Lab;2711267 said:
Totally agree. Like I've said before, I don't think McDaniels has a clue what he's doing. He came in thinking he'd be a dictator like Belichick, and now he's about to be without one of the best young QBs in the game.

I bet Bowlen is wondering what he's gotten himself into.

I thought it was a dumb hire all along, but he's proving to be quite an idiot.

Why take a job in the first place if you see a young franchise type QB locked up in a longterm deal, when you dont like said QB or think he fits what you want to do? Why not go elsewhere?

He's gonna be a monumental flop IMO.
 

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Somewhere, Brian Dawkins is saying, What the....:banghead: .

Seriously though, I can see him in Tampa. With Kellen Winslow, Antonio Bryant and a decent running game, they could be something.
 

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Avery;2711321 said:
You know what team may be stewing right now? The Kansas City Chiefs - Pioli may be calling McDaniels every name in the book right now.

Bear with me: let's say Cutler is traded for the #1 overall pick. Detroit still has #20 and can pick a OT or defensive help.

Broncos now have #1 overall and their own pick at #12. They could go Stafford, but their defense is a mess and they choose the best player in the draft in Curry. He works as an OLB in a 3-4. Curry's no longer available for the Chiefs and they look elsewhere.

They still have their #12 pick. They could chance that Sanchez will bypass the 49ers and fall into their lap or leapfrog them with a team that seems non-committal like the Jaguars or Packers in exchange for a third rounder.

It's hard to imagine scoring a better coup than Curry and Sanchez to start off your draft.

Yup and I think Denver could get Sanchez with the 12th. I think they go get Orapko instead of Curry for their defense. You're dead on with Sanchez and a LB though. Probably would be Curry so that they could get out of the 1st overall pick and get down to #3 and get Orapko anyways.

He's a better fit for a 3-4 than Curry I feel. OLB, Orapko they know can rush the passer. Curry would be a hell of an ILB in a 3-4 though. Denver needs more pressure on their defense and Orapko is that pressure.

So Denver gets the #1 overall, trades down to #3 with the Curry threat and gets Orapko. Drafts Sanchez, who I feel will be a better NFL QB than Stafford anyways, with the 12th overall. Gets out of the dreaded 1st overall money and picks up some more picks in the process.
 

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Joe Realist;2711350 said:
Somewhere, Brian Dawkins is saying, What the....:banghead: .

Seriously though, I can see him in Tampa. With Kellen Winslow, Antonio Bryant and a decent running game, they could be something.

Ya my money's on Tampa gettin him..they'd actually be decent..but that defense is pretty terrible. It's like he's right back in Denver's situation.
 

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Joe Realist;2711350 said:
Somewhere, Brian Dawkins is saying, What the....:banghead: .

Seriously though, I can see him in Tampa. With Kellen Winslow, Antonio Bryant and a decent running game, they could be something.

Dawkins is laughing to the bank. He's getting paid more than the safety franchise tag the next 2 seasons. He didn't go to Denver believing he had a chance at a championship, he went for the dough.
 

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Denver should be proposing flipping firsts with the Chiefs with a Cutler for Cassell deal. Include some future picks from KC. They get a good, ready to go QB and one of the three top guys.
 

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SLATEmosphere;2711353 said:
Ya my money's on Tampa gettin him..they'd actually be decent..but that defense is pretty terrible. It's like he's right back in Denver's situation.

Guess Detroit trading their first for Cutler isn't such Madden talk after all is it?
 

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AKATheRake;2711359 said:
Guess Detroit trading their first for Cutler isn't such Madden talk after all is it?

Huh?? who said Detroit was trading their first pick? I said the Bucs will get him..
 

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arglebargle;2711356 said:
Denver should be proposing flipping firsts with the Chiefs with a Cutler for Cassell deal. Include some future picks from KC. They get a good, ready to go QB and one of the three top guys.

Not a bad idea and about even value for both teams. The thing is the Chiefs could have done the deal heads up before and didn't. To me that means they want Cassell and aren't as interested in Cutler.

I know McDaniel discussed all of this earlier with Pioli but the 2 teams are in the same division and that's what had me perplexed to begin with. Teams never trade inter division. I think Detroit front runs this Jay Cutler thing. Washington more so than Tampa.
 

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ScipioCowboy;2711262 said:
Wow.

I've never witnessed a more bungled, incompetent handling of a player. A franchise quarterbacks is very difficult to acquire, and a team should do everything in its power to keep him when it does find him--especially one with the physical attributes and young age of Culter.

Cutler is a baby. He got his feelings hurt because he thinks everything has to be handed to him. The NFL is a business. Grow up

He is the epitome of what is wrong with some professional athletes.
 
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