Brugler 7 round mock 4/17/23

[Floatyworm]

Darnell Washington is the player the Cowboys hoped they had stole in basketball convert Rico Gathers.

Would not shock me if this FO covets Washington.

Yup....He just stinks of our kind of pick. Wouldn't mind having him...but to burn a #1 pick on the guy...a little rich for me...but I think that's gonna be our pick. If he were to make it to our 2nd rounder...I'm running the pick up there...He really could be something the league hasn't seen...he's a freak of an athlete

 

[CherBoyWade]

New Michael Mayer video breakdown came out today. Figured I'd just drop it in here since this thread seemed to be mostly Mayer-related.

 

[CATCH17]

New Michael Mayer video breakdown came out today. Figured I'd just drop it in here since this thread seemed to be mostly Mayer-related.

I agree with these dudes for the most part.

Mayer is good but he’s just so underwhelming.

If we use a 1 on him it’s whatever.

 

[reddyuta]

I agree with these dudes for the most part.

Mayer is good but he’s just so underwhelming.

If we use a 1 on him it’s whatever.

I wouldn't be mad but we can do so much better at 26.

 

[Sydla]

I thought I was clear about what I want to happen. I apologize for not being so.

I want Torrence in the first.

I want a receiver with skills for the fourth option and not the spares they have been running out on the field.

Just because McCarthy wants to run more does not mean he will toss out plays with four receivers.

Again, I have been assured by the masses that Hendershot and Ferguson is the future. I am not opposed to a TE, but not at 26.

Who said toss out plays? But facts are facts. The 4th WR plays less than 20% of the offensive snaps and that was under Moore. If McCarthy follows through with more 12 and 13 personnel, the 4th WR snap count will likely be even lower than recent years.

Doesn’t seem like smart drafting taking a guy at 26th who if the plan works out, might be on the field for like 175 snaps over an entire season.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Who said toss out plays? But facts are facts. The 4th WR plays less than 20% of the offensive snaps and that was under Moore. If McCarthy follows through with more 12 and 13 personnel, the 4th WR snap count will likely be even lower than recent years.

Doesn’t seem like smart drafting taking a guy at 26th who if the plan works out, might be on the field for like 175 snaps over an entire season.

I never said draft a WR at 26. I said draft an offensive lineman.

 

[CowboyoWales]

I agree with these dudes for the most part.

Mayer is good but he’s just so underwhelming.

If we use a 1 on him it’s whatever.

Some fans will always want the highlight reel over the facilitating player that helps others perform....eg Q Johnston vrs Mayer.

 

[J-man]

Why?
It’s a position that’s gotten major target numbers here and can effectively move the chains. He’s a solid blocker and really good TE prospect
To me it’s hard to judge a mock without knowing who else was there but as a position TE can be very important to an offense

I agree, everything you just said is true. They have used the TE position well and often in the past. He is a very good prospect that can block, get open and catch fairly well. And having a quality TE is very important IMO.

But, Big Mike is now calling the plays and he has never used the TE like that. I think he would rather draft another WR weapon to run a west coast spread offense, conjoined with a dominate running game. And they love Ferguson and they like Hendershot too. Ferguson is a do it all well TE. He reminds me of Witten when I watch him. Nothing flashy but makes plays and is reliable at all times. Hendershot is capable of breaking a big play and he's just nasty! He will drive DB's and LB's nuts. IMO, adding a top draft pick will be a major progress blocker to those guys. Also factor in that they intend to run the ball more and I just don't see TE being a huge need. Would it be nice to be super stacked at the position, sure it would. But not at the expense of filling the holes they do actually have, many of which are right where we need to be stronger to do what Big Mike wants to do.
I could be dead wrong; and don't misunderstand, I think a player like Mayer would be great to have on the team; but I just don't see it.

 

[CATCH17]

Some fans will always want the highlight reel over the facilitating player that helps others perform....eg Q Johnston vrs Mayer.

I don’t like bad value.

Michael Mayer to me is bad value because he’s not the kind of guy that could potentially change things.

Mayer could be really good but first round TEs constantly bust or are bad value.

 

[CowboyoWales]

I don’t like bad value.

Michael Mayer to me is bad value because he’s not the kind of guy that could potentially change things.

Mayer could be really good but first round TEs constantly bust or are bad value.

Just shows you're in favor of picking positional value over the player.
Most experts have a 1st Rd Grade on him, picking a scheme specific WR, especially when the play caller's job is on the line ...is much more of a concern value wise.

 

[CATCH17]

Just shows you're in favor of picking positional value over the player.
Most experts have a 1st Rd Grade on him, picking a scheme specific WR, especially when the play caller's job is on the line ...is much more of a concern value wise.

Yeah. Experts keep putting round 1 grades on TEs and it’s rarely worth it.

Go look at the best TEs in football. Nearly none of them are 1st rounders.

It’s just not a smart position to take in round 1 and if you’re taking them I’d rather take a guy that’s a matchup nightmare like Kyle Pitts or Dalton Kincaid.

The blue collar lunchbox TE is a dime a dozen.

If I can get Laporta a round later I’d much rather do that and to me he shows more upside than Mayer.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Yeah. Experts keep putting round 1 grades on TEs and it’s rarely worth it.

Go look at the best TEs in football. Nearly none of them are 1st rounders.

It’s just not a smart position to take in round 1 and if you’re taking them I’d rather take a guy that’s a matchup nightmare like Kyle Pitts or Dalton Kincaid.

The blue collar lunchbox TE is a dime a dozen.

If I can get Laporta a round later I’d much rather do that and to me he shows more upside than Mayer.

Again your looking at position and not players. I'm by no means saying pick Mayer...I'm saying I hope we pick the best player, I'd prefer an elite player at a 'lesser' player rather than reaching for a lesser player who happens to play a 'position of value'.
Your TE's are dime a dozen comment could also apply to WR's especially this year where the top prospects appear scheme specific or have fairly glaring concerns.

 

[CATCH17]

Again your looking at position and not players. I'm by no means saying pick Mayer...I'm saying I hope we pick the best player, I'd prefer an elite player at a 'lesser' player rather than reaching for a lesser player who happens to play a 'position of value'.
Your TE's are dime a dozen comment could also apply to WR's especially this year where the top prospects appear scheme specific or have fairly glaring concerns.

I don’t like the position value for a 1990s style of first round but I’m more worried about the bust rate.

I think Mayers floor is still above league average at worst but still he doesn’t look like a guy that teams worry about.

 

[CowboyoWales]

I don’t like the position value for a 1990s style of first round but I’m more worried about the bust rate.

I think Mayers floor is still above league average at worst but still he doesn’t look like a guy that teams worry about.

So you're open to a more 'modern' Kincaid, that's ok so long as you're not proposing drafting for we take lesser players based o. positional value.

 

[INCowboysFan]

What if mayer is the 2nd coming of Gronk? Gronk wasn't the best athlete, but was dominant. He ran a 4.68 and Mayer a 4.70. I think people view him as Gronk 2.0, which would be fantastic in the 1st. He's not Kelce or Kittle, but I think we can all agree that having a Gronk clone (potentially) would be a great pick up.

 

[conner01]

I agree, everything you just said is true. They have used the TE position well and often in the past. He is a very good prospect that can block, get open and catch fairly well. And having a quality TE is very important IMO.

But, Big Mike is now calling the plays and he has never used the TE like that. I think he would rather draft another WR weapon to run a west coast spread offense, conjoined with a dominate running game. And they love Ferguson and they like Hendershot too. Ferguson is a do it all well TE. He reminds me of Witten when I watch him. Nothing flashy but makes plays and is reliable at all times. Hendershot is capable of breaking a big play and he's just nasty! He will drive DB's and LB's nuts. IMO, adding a top draft pick will be a major progress blocker to those guys. Also factor in that they intend to run the ball more and I just don't see TE being a huge need. Would it be nice to be super stacked at the position, sure it would. But not at the expense of filling the holes they do actually have, many of which are right where we need to be stronger to do what Big Mike wants to do.
I could be dead wrong; and don't misunderstand, I think a player like Mayer would be great to have on the team; but I just don't see it.

To me the draft is about getting good players
It all depends on who’s on the board but I wouldn’t rule out a TE because he’s a TE
If the right guard is there I’d take him, the right WR or CB
A very good argument about value would be a guard. Very low bust rate position who can play longer at an effective level than most skill positions
TE wouldn’t be my first choice but if the quality is there it would be a logical pick if a better player wasn’t there at say WR, CB or guard

 

[atlantacowboy]

no way I'd take any of those TE's over a starting caliber OL, DE, CB, WR and even RB if it's Robinson.

There is zero chance Robinson falls to 26 and there are only 2 WRs in this draft worthy of a first round pick. Neither would see much of the field in Dallas next year with CD, Gallup, and Cooks getting all the reps. Sure we could use a G and a CB but we NEED a TE. A pass catching TE is crucial in this offense and we don't currently have one. So which position is going to make the biggest impact on the team next year? TE

 

[atlantacowboy]

I'd be very happy with this draft. The problem is that the whole world knows we need a TE. So, chances are someone is going to jump us for Mayer.

 

[Pass2Run]

You got a link to that report?

Looks pretty accurate to me. I've heard Broadus and some of those guys talk about how Luke Musgrave may be their #1 TE.

I go back and forth on some of these players, but there are a lot of good prospects at TE.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

What if mayer is the 2nd coming of Gronk? Gronk wasn't the best athlete, but was dominant. He ran a 4.68 and Mayer a 4.70. I think people view him as Gronk 2.0, which would be fantastic in the 1st. He's not Kelce or Kittle, but I think we can all agree that having a Gronk clone (potentially) would be a great pick up.

He’s not Gronk.