BTB: Cowboys 2013 Draft Board Leaked... All Seven Rounds (Link Post #21) *Merge*

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This was posted by a guy named RobC on Blogging the Boys who apparently got a photo of the Cowboys 2013 draft board. He posted the results online in one of the answers to a short article he wrote:

Here is the article:

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013/5/24/4363546/2013-cowboys-draft-board#comments

Here is the order on the board with the actual draft position for the player (this doesn't look like a hoax but I take no responsibility for the veracity of any of the following informaton):

joeckel 2
fisher 1
jordon 3
millner 9
floyd 24
cooper 7
johnson 4
warmack 10
mingo 6
ansah 5
rhodes 25
vaccaro 15
patterson 29
austin 8
eifert 21
richardson 13
werner 24
lotulelei 14

fluker 11
hopkins 27
pugh 19
frederick 31
terr williams 74
reid 18
escobar 47
slay 36
ertz 35
nassib 110
hunt 53
bernard 37
barkley 98
hunter 34
sly williams 28
hayden 12
short 44
wreh-wilson 70
geno smith 39
lacy 61
minter 45
teo 38

ball 58
trufant 22
watson 42
wheaton 79
art brown 56
collins 52
webb 114
cyprien 33
carradine 40
wilcox 80
logan 67
bailey 92
bell 48
alford 60
j. hill 87
hodges 120
bostic 50
v.mcdonald 55
datone jones 26
d. sims 106
gratz 64
dawkins 229
d.c. jefferson 219
j. taylor 54
swearinger 57
long 20
randle 151
moore 81

magee not drafted
holmes 121
lemonier 88
patton 128
s. taylor 140
klein 148
w. davis 93
ej manual 16
porter 118
d thomas 77
s moore 66
josh boyce 102
brandon jenkins 162
andre ellington 187
kenny stills 144
kiko alonso 46
phillip thomas 119
david amerson 51
david bakhtiari 109
mike buchanon 226
brian winters 72

watford 116
schwenke 107
k johnson n/a
edwards 142
wilson 112
holloman 185
franklin 125
glennon 73
mcgee 149
brennan williams 89
riddick theo 199
l ryan 83
jakar hamilton n/a
zavier gooden 97
ricky wagner 168
cobi hamilton 197
sam barrington 232
c washington 188
zeke motta 244
mike gillislee 164
ak spense 100
khaseem greene 117
oday aboushi 141
alex okafor 103
reid fragel 240
miliciah goodman 127
josh boyd 167
aaron dobson 59

by RobertC on May 26, 2013 | 9:56 AM up reply
 

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One very interesting thing is that after the trade-down it looks like Frederick was the highest rated player on our board.

After Frederick there was basically a chasm before the next interior OL shows up in the rankings. Warford who many here liked at OG was a top of the 5th round guy. Brian Winters who they were linked to was a bottom of the 4th round guy. Terron Armstead appears not to be listed at all even after blowing out the Combine. After the top 3 tackles the next guy isn't listed until the top of the 3rd round, Watson.

It also appears as though a couple of times they may have passed on a higher rated guy in the draft with the draft picks they had. In particular the 5th rounder should have been Evertt Dawkins a DT and the 6th round pick should have been DC Jefferson, a TE. Certainly for Dawkins wasn't rated much higher than Joseph Randle who also had a late 3rd round grade but was chosen in the 5th. For those who liked S. Taylor or J. Franklin at backup RB, the Cowboys definitely had Randle ranked quite a bit higher. Bell from Michigan State was ranked higher but was chosen well before Randle. Jeffeson would have been a BPA by a decent margin over Holloman but I guess they didn't want to invest their last pick on a 4th TE when they thought they could get some key depth at OLB that they needed.

It should also be noted that B. Magee was rated a whole round higher than Holloman but we chose Holloman presumably because we thought Magee would fall and be available as a UDFA and they were right about that. Some of that may have been due to his baseball career and some may have been due to short stature and non-elite speed.

It also appears as though J. Hamilton was another high priority UDFA with a high 5th round grade.

It looks like in the end we ended up 3 players in our top 25 and we got about 9 of the top 150 players on our board in the end.

Some notable players that I didn't notice on our draft board: Matt Elam, Tyrann Mathieu, Terron Armstead, Alvin Bailey, Marcus Lattimore, C. Faulk. I'm sure there are others. It looks like we weren't as high on J. Cyprien as some had speculated. Sylvester Williams was a late 2nd rounder and well behind Frederick on our board. We also seem to think that Kyle Long, Datone Jones, Hayden and Trufant were reaches.
 

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I also remember a lot of talk about Floyd being #7 on our board but here it looks like he is at #5. Why did we pass on the #5 player when we had a shot at him at the #18 pick?

I know some have claimed that Kiffen said we had enough DL but you still usually would pluck your #2 defensive player in the draft should he fall to you at #18.

My guess is that either Marinelli said no to the player or Jerry decided that an OL had to be the pick but couldn't justify taking Frederick yet when there were much higher players left on the board and decided the trade down to #31 would let us get another premium pick while still staying in a good slot to get the targeted player.

When you look at our board it is a huge drop from Frederick to our next ranked OL. If we had lost out on Frederick we may not have addressed the OL again at all in the draft.

Jerry's newest OL pattern seems to be draft them in the first or not at all. Get the premium players at premium positions (OT, Center) and then try to develop the rest from UDFA or poach them off of Practice Squads or vet scrap heaps. I'm not saying this is the proper strategy but we don't have many OL ranked in the top 3 rounds again. It is interesting to note that we had Cooper above Warmack and both were taken right around where we had them ranked.
 

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Eskimo;5091815 said:
After Frederick there was basically a chasm before the next interior OL shows up in the rankings. Warford who many here liked at OG was a top of the 5th round guy.


That is Earl Watford from James Madison not Warford.

I don't even see Warford on this list.
 

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MonsterD;5091772 said:
Anyone have a guess as to who this is they have ranked in the 5th round?

k johnson n/a


I've even searched for an undrafted guy under Johnson and came up with nothing, except J. Johnson-Webb(OT).
I looked for a similar name and came up with FB Kyle Juszczyk 4th Rnd pick 130. My best guess. I think the pic that whoever came up with the list was either too blurry or blocked. There were a couple K Johnson's but neither were drafted. LB Nico Johnson was drafted in the 4th Rnd but he's considered a 3-4 only LB.

Nico Johnson 4th
Keelen Johnson S UDFA
Kelly Johnson FB UDFA
TJ Johnson C 7th
 

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Had the Cowboys not taken Frederick at 31, it's very likely that they wouldn't have taken an OL in this draft. Based on their values, I think the only OL's that would have been considered would have been Khalid Holmes in the 4th, Rickey Wagner in the 5th, and Reid Fragel in the 6th. But the Cowboys would have had to pass on higher rated players (in some cases significantly higher rated players) to take any of these OL's.
 

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TheRomoSexual;5091530 said:
What are you talking about? Aside from the first round (which we usually use o shore up our biggest need), they went by the board for the most part.

WOW!!

are you saying the cowboys reached for need and went off their draft board in round 1?

isnt that how "teams have bad drafts"?

say it aint so :lmao:
 

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It would be nice to take a look at other teams' supposed boards, especially the NYG, WAS, and PHI. I'll try to look for them later. If anyone finds them, please post. It would be interesting where the other teams have our players slotted.
 

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In the week following the 2010 draft, a bunch of intrepid BTB readers captured screen shots from video taken inside the Cowboys war room and brilliantly constructed an almost complete version of the team's 2010 draft board. Well, I'm pleased to announce that, thanks to a similar set of images taken in the team's war room during day one of the 2013 draft (see below), we have reconstructed the team's 2013 board.
In this and other photos, you can see the board in the background with the players' names aligned on it. Behind Jerry, you can see the players ranked by round. To his right (our left) hung a whiteboard with the various positions broken down by round. By careful examination of these images, I was able to reconstruct the position-by-round board:

Read the rest:
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013...ft-board-leaked-almost-complete-7-round-board
 

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Awesome

Really not a whole lot of surprises. Can't say I disagree with the choices, given the board
 

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ilykdrama;5092052 said:
What a cool read. Thanks!

It's interesting that we chose Holloman in the 6th with Brandon Magee still on the board. They had Magee rated as a 4th round talent, but Holloman as a 5th.

My guess is that they were concerned Magee might choose Baseball in the end and decided to pass until he became a FA. I also think the rest of the league may has passed for the same reasons.
 

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Erik_H;5092058 said:
It's interesting that we chose Holloman in the 6th with Brandon Magee still on the board. They had Magee rated as a 4th round talent, but Holloman as a 5th.

My guess is that they were concerned Magee might choose Baseball in the end and decided to pass until he became a FA. I also think the rest of the league may has passed for the same reasons.

Magee's size might have something to do with it.
 

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What a great thread, and terrific job by the researcher.

If their board is correct, they hit some home runs on Williams, Randle, and Wilcox.

And it also shows that they were committed to an offensive lineman in the first round no matter what. When the run on lineman went, they took Frederick and passed on Floyd.

I feel better about the draft than before, and I was already pretty good with it.
 

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Look how many players they got in free agency that they had ranked highly.

Magee, Holloman, and Hamilton.
 

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i was always in the camp of OL w/ the 1st pick. as i've stated in other threads, conventional thinking is you need to go after the BPA and it would look as though we reached. But i like our first pick, and i'm excited about the help on our O-line.
 
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