News: BTB: Tony Romo: The Choke Artist Myth And Elimination Vs. Playoff Hunt Games

[Blackspider214]

Yawn.

If you have to dive this deep to try and "debunk" something, then there is your issue.

Romo is not a clutch QB. Will he ever be? The next few seasons will tell but he is not right now.

Is he a horrible QB? Not at all. But is he great? Nope.

 

[mahoneybill]

There are lies, damn lies and statistics. The truth is Romo is a very good QB that has led teams that have come up short time and time again. He has plenty of 4th comebacks and has had some great games against great teams, but we just can't throw away his sub-par performances in a lot of big games. He isn't a "choker" and his reputation with the National media is unfair, but he doesn't have the skins on the wall yet. Hopefully he will get some starting this year.

He's normally cast in a bad light when his decision ends a game. Contrast that with P Manning who rarely is called a choker, but has also ended some bigger games with his decisions.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

He's normally cast in a bad light when his decision ends a game. Contrast that with P Manning who rarely is called a choker, but has also ended some bigger games with his decisions.

Its all about agendas.

 

[Nightman]

He's normally cast in a bad light when his decision ends a game. Contrast that with P Manning who rarely is called a choker, but has also ended some bigger games with his decisions.

Manning has the big wins though. Until Romo gets some big wins in January he has to live with the choker moniker, right or wrong.

 

[CyberB0b]

Myths about Tony Romo being a choke artist get debunked routinely, so someone created the "elimination games" stat. Here is a closer look at that "statistical proof" and a new stat for "playoff hunt" games.

I always laugh at the "statistical proof" used to define Tony Romo's ability in big games...excuse me, elimination games. When an undrafted rookie rises to the helm of theDallas Cowboys and becomes one of the Top-10 QBs in the league, you have a cornucopia of factors that are sure to create drama and inspire the anti-Cowboys nation. At every turn, memes and myths would pop up taking shots at Romo's abilities, and BTB (and other media sources) would often disprove those fallacies in short order. First, it was claimed that Romo's statistical superiority didn't matter because he couldn't get it done in the fourth-quarter. Then it became about Romo not being able to play well in the important games late in the season. But the truth shall set you free...

• Romo ranks sixth among active QBs for the most fourth-quarter comebacks - playing fewer games than anyone ahead of him on that list and those below him on the Top 10 list
• Romo ranks ninth among active QBs for the most game winning drives - again, playing fewer games than those above him on the list
• Romo has had phenomenal fourth-quarter QB ratings. This 2012 article states his career 102.1 QB rating in the fourth-quarter is the best among active QBs in the league, considerably surpassing the elite QBs like Aaron Rodgers,Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, and Tom Brady. His 2012 rating (101.2) and 2013 rating (105.6) means he is likely still the best in the league in the fourth-quarter.
• In games in Dec. and Jan. Romo has 63.3 completion % and 50 TD vs. 29 INT

So after all these previous myths were debunked, the national media create a new statistic to show viewers why they had been badmouthing Tony Romo...the elimination game stat.

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For the sake of time, let's breeze past my adamant objections to terms like "big games" and "chokes when it matters" being used based off of this 'elimination game data set.' Because every game in a 16-game schedule holds important playoff ramifications, and matchups against division rivals are "big games," and nationally televised games are "big games," and week 15 and 16 games that must be won to keep your team in the playoff hunt are "big games," and matchups to clinch a playoff spot are "big games," and week 17 matchups for the division crown are "big games." So, let's just ignore the problem with this definition of important elimination games, which boils down to a limited data set used as empirical evidence to one of the greatest intangibles in sports.
Let's just concentrate on the limited scope of this great derogatory myth, because even that makes me laugh.



Read the entire piece here:

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2014...-cowboys-myths-elimination-playoff-hunt-games

Sorry that you wasted your time posting this. People long for the days of Ryan Leaf, Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, Tony Banks, Anthony Wright, Clint Stoener, etc. Romo has had to endure franchise lows in offensive lines and defenses, but people still rag on him. I'll be sad when he goes and his career is wasted.

 

[CyberB0b]

He's normally cast in a bad light when his decision ends a game. Contrast that with P Manning who rarely is called a choker, but has also ended some bigger games with his decisions.

This is hilarious. Peyton has been embarrassed in a couple of Super Bowls. His ******** brother is more of a gamer than he is, with less talent, at finishing a game that matters. 25/38 for 247 Yards and 1 TD and 1 INT isn't exactly a world beating performance in Super Bowl XLI.

 

[birdwells1]

He's normally cast in a bad light when his decision ends a game. Contrast that with P Manning who rarely is called a choker, but has also ended some bigger games with his decisions.

Peyton Manning is not clutch.

 

[5Stars]

Peyton Manning is not clutch.

Actually, there is not a clutch QB that has ever played in the NFL. Some are better than others, sure. But someone has to catch the ball for the QB, someone has to block for the QB, and someone has to run the ball for the QB. And a Coach has to put the QB into a position play calling wise to be successful.

Oh, and then there are the QB's teammates on the other side of the ball...you know, the defense.

But, trolls won't have any of that...it's all on the QB or nothing! They always come back with the most stupid thing I have ever heard..."but, the QB touches the ball on every play". lmao

Agendas galore for those trolls/haters that proclaim to be hardcore Cowboy fans.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Sorry that you wasted your time posting this. People long for the days of Ryan Leaf, Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, Tony Banks, Anthony Wright, Clint Stoener, etc. Romo has had to endure franchise lows in offensive lines and defenses, but people still rag on him. I'll be sad when he goes and his career is wasted.

Well, when all else fails the Romo haters resort to yelling out the windows of the short bus that stats just dont matter. And that is climaxed with the "RINGS" argument.

So the CZ short bussers are more impressed with the Trent Dilfers, Mark Rypiens, Doug Williams, and E-Lie types. Even preferring these caliber QB's over the likes of Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Fran Tarkenton and others.

You might be sad when Romo is gone, but some will laud the day.

 

[5Stars]

Well, when all else fails the Romo haters resort to yelling out the windows of the short bus that stats just dont matter. And that is climaxed with the "RINGS" argument.

So the CZ short bussers are more impressed with the Trent Dilfers, Mark Rypiens, Doug Williams, and E-Lie types. Even preferring these caliber QB's over the likes of Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Fran Tarkenton and others.

You might be sad when Romo is gone, but some will laud the day.

That's right! When Romo is done and gone, ring or no ring, then they can breath and go back to the forums of the teams they really root for because Romo will not pose any problems for them anymore.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

That's right! When Romo is done and gone, ring or no ring, then they can breath and go back to the forums of the teams they really root for because Romo will not pose any problems for them anymore.

A celebration will ensue!

 

[birdwells1]

ActualIy, there is not a clutch QB that has ever played in the NFL. Some are better than others, sure. But someone has to catch the ball for the QB, someone has to block for the QB, and someone has to run the ball for the QB. And a Coach has to put the QB into a position play calling wise to be successful.

Oh, and then there are the QB's teammates on the other side of the ball...you know, the defense.

But, trolls won't have any of that...it's all on the QB or nothing! They always come back with the most stupid thing I have ever heard..."but, the QB touches the ball on every play". lmao

Agendas galore for those trolls/haters that proclaim to be hardcore Cowboy fans.

Naw, some of Peyton's worst performances have come in the playoffs at home, SD twice, Steelers, Baltimore.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yawn.

If you have to dive this deep to try and "debunk" something, then there is your issue.

Romo is not a clutch QB. Will he ever be? The next few seasons will tell but he is not right now.

Is he a horrible QB? Not at all. But is he great? Nope.

This is complete nonsense. The aphorism of the simplest answer being the best is only solace for the simple minded.

One look at the matrix solutions in quantum mechanics demonstrates that the truth is not always simple.

I get that everyone is entitled to their opinion but when trying to make an objective case for something, Sesame Street is not always the best route.

 

[CCBoy]

This is complete nonsense. The aphorism of the simplest answer being the best is only solace for the simple minded.

One look at the matrix solutions in quantum mechanics demonstrates that the truth is not always simple.

I get that everyone is entitled to their opinion but when trying to make an objective case for something, Sesame Street is not always the best route.

Funny, the greatest worldly accomplishment for a man and women occurs in a complete mental vacuum and without the warring of concepts and intervention of a myriad of process, refinement, and articulation...it is simply called, copulation. Even simple minded animals may participate, down to the level of an ameba.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Funny, the greatest worldly accomplishment for a man and women occurs in a complete mental vacuum and without the warring of concepts and intervention of a myriad of process, refinement, and articulation...it is simply called, copulation. Even simple minded animals may participate, down to the level of an ameba.

 

[waving monkey]

Tony Romo: The Choke Artist Myth And Elimination Vs. Playoff Hunt Games
By Kegbearer  @KegbearerBTB on Jul 10 2014, 3:00p 211

Geoff Burke-USA TODAY Sports

Myths about Tony Romo being a choke artist get debunked routinely, so someone created the "elimination games" stat. Here is a closer look at that "statistical proof" and a new stat for "playoff hunt" games.


I always laugh at the "statistical proof" used to define Tony Romo's ability in big games...excuse me, elimination games. When an undrafted rookie rises to the helm of the Dallas Cowboys and becomes one of the top 10 quarterbacks in the league, you have a cornucopia of factors that are sure to create drama and inspire the anti-Cowboys nation. At every turn, memes and myths would pop up taking shots at Romo's abilities, and BTB (and other media sources) would often disprove those fallacies in short order. First, it was claimed that Romo's statistical superiority didn't matter because he couldn't get it done in the fourth-quarter. Then it became about Romo not being able to play well in the important games late in the season. But the truth shall set you free...

• Romo ranks sixth among active QBs for the most fourth-quarter comebacks - playing fewer games than anyone ahead of him on that list and those below him on the Top 10 list
• Romo ranks ninth among active QBs for the most game winning drives - again, playing fewer games than those above him on the list
• Romo has had phenomenal fourth-quarter QB ratings. This 2012 article states his career 102.1 QB rating in the fourth-quarter is the best among active QBs in the league, considerably surpassing the elite QBs like Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, and Tom Brady. His 2012 rating (101.2) and 2013 rating (105.6) means he is likely still the best in the league in the fourth-quarter.

link/ below ,sorry trouble setting link @ BTB

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2014...-cowboys-myths-elimination-playoff-hunt-games

 

[DogFace]

Some can't seem to face it. Statistics over a period of time prove he is a very good QB. They simply don't understand.
Playoff wins is not a stat you can
attribute to one player.

 

[randy932]

One possession games since 2011.
Games with less than 5 minutes to go and down by 7 points or less:

Tied with 5 Int's:
Andy Dalton, Matt Ryan, Philip Rivers

6 Int's
Chad Henne

7 Int's
Ryan Fitzpatrick

8 Int's
Tony Romo



Well, at least he's leading the league.
isn't 2011 when we started going 8-8 ?

That's at least 2 games a year that he is losing on his own. The difference between 8-8 and the playoffs.

 

[CCBoy]

http://i266.***BLOCKED***/albums/ii269/jobstran/yawnpantson9.gif

 

[birdwells1]

This is a repost.