Burger King on Dallas trading up

[big dog cowboy]

Same thing I've been saying since Cleveland started winning.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Man I hate agreeing with The Peter King. :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

We don't need McFadden. Save our picks and use them wisely, get good value for them and solid players. No reaches, no project players.

Me personally I like Darren McFadden alot, but, I don't think he is worth risking Marion Barber at all, I would be completely heart broken, and my point is Marion Barber is here to stay in Dallas. I would like to see Chris Johnson complement Marion Barber well, why yall might ask?

First off this guy has it all. ENJOY LADIES AND GENTS THAT LOVE FOOTBALL, this guy here is a game-breaker, possibly the best running back in the draft in my eyes.

HIS PLAYER CARD
:starspin CHRIS JOHNSON:starspin

Height :: 5/10
Weight :: 200
40 Yard Dash :: 4.32

Strengths: Has it all -- speed, elusiveness, hands, route-running skills, quickness, explosion and competitive fire. Shows good vision to locate the hole and burst through it. Shows little wasted movement, and cuts upfield quickly. Shows good strength and leg drive to gain yardage after contact. Is not afraid to lower head and pick up tough yardage. Makes would-be tacklers miss in the open field. Is at his best running to the corner, and is adept at spotting cutback lanes once outside the tackles. Can outrun defenders who have the angle on him. As a former wide receiver, shows natural hands and good concentration. Understands the route tree, and is a solid route-runner. Gains good separation in and out of breaks. Is tough and not afraid to go over the middle. Also is an outstanding kickoff return man, attacking and hitting the creases hard and showing the speed to make big plays.


Weaknesses: Is thin; must add bulk to hold up in the NFL. Is not much of a blocker; will get in the way, but is not a go-getter. Must become more aggressive and improve technique as a blocker. Has small hands, and could have trouble with ball security in traffic in the NFL.
Bottom line: Johnson is an explosive player who has not reached his potential. He has all the tools to be a special player in the NFL, making big plays as a runner, receiver and return man. He has world-class speed and outstanding cutback ability and is tough. He is a threat to score on every touch. Johnson's senior season started slowly, but he rebounded nicely and shows the ability to make a major impact in the NFL. His lack of bulk probably will cause him to slide into the second or third round.

HIGHLIGHTS:: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0Wg9i2udw4

 

[Randy White]

heard what Norm Hitzges had to say this morning ?

That's usually a somewhat reliable barometer into what the Jerrathor is thinking. I hope that this is just a one way street rumor from the Tuna's mouthpiece. I hope that Jerra is not stupid and considers that rumor an insult to his intelligence.

For the sake of our franchise, that better be the case.

 

[superpunk]

If he's Emmitt, Barry, Bo, Dickerson....any trade is worth it.

It's just a question of having the means and balls to make that call.

 

[Randy White]

Kevin Smith, personally.

:starspin

 

[Randy White]

If he's Emmitt, Barry, Bo, Dickerson....any trade is worth it.

It's just a question of having the means and balls to make that call.

Dickerson, Bo, and Barry were well known, highly thought of, commodities. Emmitt wasn't and turned out to have a better career than any of them.

Jerrah should learn from that.

 

[PosterChild]

Kevin Smith, personally.

:starspin

Randy, you could still catch him.

 

[Randy White]

Randy, you could still catch him.

You mean he's slow ?

 

[superpunk]

Dickerson, Bo, and Barry were well known, highly thought of, commodities. Emmitt wasn't and turned out to have a better career than any of them.

Jerrah should learn from that.

I don't understand your point.

Last year, if we could have known that Peterson would be so absolutely dominant, wouldn't it have been worth a trade up, whatever the cost? If you could get Dickerson, Bo, or Barry, isn't it worth a trade up, whatever the cost?

Yeah - it's terribly risky. That's why you need big brass ones to make the move.

 

[Randy White]

I don't understand your point.

Last year, if we could have known that Peterson would be so absolutely dominant, wouldn't it have been worth a trade up, whatever the cost? If you could get Dickerson, Bo, or Barry, isn't it worth a trade up, whatever the cost?

Sure, if you can 100% money back guarantee that McFadden will be any of those guys. If you can't do that ( and nobody can ) then no, and I'll tell you why.

The Cowboys are not in a possition for such a big gamble. Dallas has a team that with a few key addition could be set for years to come. They also have a team that if you gamble big, and lose, it could set the team back at least 5 years, if not more.

T.O. is getting up there in age. So is FLO. T-Glenn is practically gone. Columbo had a rough year, but I think he's peaked anyways. That's alot of offense that needs to be replaced eventually. If we put all of our eggs in the McFadden basket, meaning multiple draft picks AND salary cap space, and he doesn't work out, you can pretty much kiss our chances to contend for a long time. His salary cap hit, along with the new contract that FLO, Hamlin and T.O. are going to get, plus the getting T-New's new deal possibly as soon as this year, and "B"Ware right after that, will certainly take us out of the FA market in order to replace him ( if it came down to that ).

If we missed with the 22nd or 28th pick ( or even both ) it's definitely a set back, but not nearly as costly as missing with a top 5 pick that we'd have to trade up for.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Yea, we better sit tight....as much as I would like to have DMac, we have so many needs and trading all those picks would kill us

 

[yimyammer]

Why are the pundits everyone making this stupid argument?

Jerry AIN'T this stupid. This trade AIN'T happening. No way, no how.

End of story

Because of JJ's past and wildcatting ways. He's a great owner but I don't trust him to always make the best decision and not revert back to his gambling ways.

Firing Jimmy and trading all those picks for Joey Galloway will do that to a fan.....

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Sure, if you can 100% money back guarantee that McFadden will be any of those guys. If you can't do that ( and nobody can ) then no, and I'll tell you why.

The Cowboys are not in a possition for such a big gamble. Dallas has a team that with a few key addition could be set for years to come. They also have a team that if you gamble big, and lose, it could set the team back at least 5 years, if not more.

T.O. is getting up there in age. So is FLO. T-Glenn is practically gone. Columbo had a rough year, but I think he's peaked anyways. That's alot of offense that needs to be replaced eventually. If we put all of our eggs in the McFadden basket, meaning multiple draft picks AND salary cap space, and he doesn't work out, you can pretty much kiss our chances to contend for a long time. His salary cap hit, along with the new contract that FLO, Hamlin and T.O. are going to get, plus the getting T-New's new deal possibly as soon as this year, and "B"Ware right after that, will certainly take us out of the FA market in order to replace him ( if it came down to that ).

If we missed with the 22nd or 28th pick ( or even both ) it's definitely a set back, but not nearly as costly as missing with a top 5 pick that we'd have to trade up for.

Bingo!

And it's not like McFadden is going to come in and put the combined numbers of Jones/Barber to shame. It just isn't going to happen. People think that McFadden is going to average 6ypc and it's not going to happen.

 

[superpunk]

Sure, if you can 100% money back guarantee that McFadden will be any of those guys. If you can't do that ( and nobody can ) then no, and I'll tell you why.

The Cowboys are not in a possition for such a big gamble. Dallas has a team that with a few key addition could be set for years to come. They also have a team that if you gamble big, and lose, it could set the team back at least 5 years, if not more.

T.O. is getting up there in age. So is FLO. T-Glenn is practically gone. Columbo had a rough year, but I think he's peaked anyways. That's alot of offense that needs to be replaced eventually. If we put all of our eggs in the McFadden basket, meaning multiple draft picks AND salary cap space, and he doesn't work out, you can pretty much kiss our chances to contend for a long time. His salary cap hit, along with the new contract that FLO, Hamlin and T.O. are going to get, plus the getting T-New's new deal possibly as soon as this year, and "B"Ware right after that, will certainly take us out of the FA market in order to replace him ( if it came down to that ).

If we missed with the 22nd or 28th pick ( or even both ) it's definitely a set back, but not nearly as costly as missing with a top 5 pick that we'd have to trade up for.

Nothing's ever 100%. If your staff, who you trust, tells you "This guy is Eric Dickerson" - you do what you can to try and get him. It's called a gamble for a reason.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I don't understand your point.

Last year, if we could have known that Peterson would be so absolutely dominant, wouldn't it have been worth a trade up, whatever the cost? If you could get Dickerson, Bo, or Barry, isn't it worth a trade up, whatever the cost?

Yeah - it's terribly risky. That's why you need big brass ones to make the move.

Maybe Jerry should have hired me to take Ireland's place as I noted last year that Peterson was the best player in the draft. Though I said I would probably take Thomas ahead of him, because an All-Pro franchise LT for the next 15 years is one hell of a thing to have!

 

[superpunk]

Maybe Jerry should have hired me to take Ireland's place as I noted last year that Peterson was the best player in the draft.

Yeah, you and about 8,000,000 other schmucks. Now, if you posess the means to guarantee his health forever, then you've got something.

 

[yimyammer]

heard what Norm Hitzges had to say this morning ?

That's usually a somewhat reliable barometer into what the Jerrathor is thinking. I hope that this is just a one way street rumor from the Tuna's mouthpiece. I hope that Jerra is not stupid and considers that rumor an insult to his intelligence.

For the sake of our franchise, that better be the case.

I didn't hear Norv, what did he say?

 

[Rack]

I've been the biggest MB3 supporter since he became a cowboy, but he isnt' a top 10 RB in the league.


If you're measuring "heart" then he's easily #1, but overall ability, no he's not top 10.

 

[Randy White]

Nothing's ever 100%. If your staff, who you trust, tells you "This guy is Eric Dickerson" - you do what you can to try and get him. It's called a gamble for a reason.

Ok, I'll believe my staff if they say that. But then, I'll turn around and ask them what do they think about the rest of the running backs. Who can they be compared to ? If the answer comes back as to the next " Marion Barber ", for example, then perhaps we do not need the next Eric Dickerson.

Two Marion Barbers, plus an extra #1 pick, plus an extra 20 + millions in cap space that would be used to set the franchise for many years to come is better than the next Eric Dickerson. At least for the Cowboys, at this particular moment.

 

[burmafrd]

Or really stupid to pass up the oppurtunity to strengthen weak places on the team like CB that could make a much bigger contribution to winning another SB.
Even if Mcfadden does what peterson did this year- and stayed healthy all 16 games- just how much more would we get then what we would have with MB3 and another good RB? NOWHERE as much as another top CB, or maybe a WR that will take the place of TG, both of which we could get as well as a very good back in the second rd.
AND THEN THERE IS THE SALARY CAP. A top pick costs WAY TOO MUCH.