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Just this week we had a guy who started a few months after me who left and the studio did nothing to acknowledge him. Almost 15 years working here and he wasn't even worth a round of beers or some pizza in the break room in the eyes of management. This guy was a skilled programmer who was valuable, well-liked and a hard worker the entire time. I had two younger guys come into my office yesterday to ask ***? All I could do was shake my head and tell them that they should know the deal by now. Welcome to the real world. I wish I had organized something myself but just don't have the energy these days. I at least spent an hour personally talking to him about old times and saying my goodbyes.
 

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I've been on sabbatical for a hot minute.
Nothing is inspiring me right now.
Nothing.
I get on a ride for a minute, but it doesn't make me want to get back on. You know?

I've been trying to listen to new music and find something, but... nothing.
Don’t know how old you are, but much of that can come from lack of testosterone which happens with age. My buddy’s wife was a Dr. and gave him testosterone shot’s once a week and he was walking around like a 21 yr old buck with non-stop you know what. But that comes with side affects. Exercise every day will help keep you going. I swear by it.
 

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Don’t know how old you are, but much of that can come from lack of testosterone which happens with age. My buddy’s wife was a Dr. and gave him testosterone shot’s once a week and he was walking around like a 21 yr old buck with non-stop you know what. But that comes with side affects. Exercise every day will help keep you going. I swear by it.
Interesting.
 

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I've been where some of you are now and often spend too much time thinking about the purpose of life, which eventually turns into the unfairness of life.

I have to actively avoid playing the "why me" card and force myself to look for the "what doesn't suck" cards. I will find them if I look hard enough.

I will share the one thing that has helped me cope after 7 decades and it is one simple phrase I repeat to myself over and over until I take myself out of that mood I can so easily slip into being a rather moody individual. "Everything is temporary". It's simple but effective for me and allows me to detach from my present feeling and actually look at it objectively.

And I can tell you the best therapy you will ever have to take you out of a dark mood or place because what is happening is that we are in a state of brooding. We don't intend to be but we get there just the same. Find something, anything, to make yourself laugh. It's not only cathartic and mood breaking, it takes you to another place, a better place.

I went to this laugh seminar with my wife about 15 years ago. That is unusual in that the people who were there that know me think of me as the funny guy. Why would the funny guy need to laugh? During this 4 hour exercise facilitated by a doctor who had experimented with his patients during therapy and a pattern began to fall in place to him, I became self aware that while I could make others laugh, I was not laughing because making myself laugh was not the objective. He led his patients in laugh therapy and noticed that during this shared experience, they felt closer to one another even though some had never met. I met with him on two other occasions, privately, and I had no idea what lay ahead that was going to cause me to use this therapy. He had asked to meet with me because when we did this exercise the first time, he heard people asking me to make them laugh. And he had already picked me out at one of the more serious looking people in the group. I've never been known as a smiler, still working on that.

Next time you're feeling burned out, stressed out, pissed or just down in that hole and need some help out, try this. Lie on your back on the floor and just start to laugh. If you can think of something funny it helps but most people can't when they're assigned to but don't worry about that, just start laughing with your hands on your stomach. Your goal is to make your hands move by using laughter to move your abdominal muscles, this is the elusive belly laugh, and the more you do it, the harder it becomes to not laugh. The first time we did this, I saw people with tears on their cheeks and exhausted from laughing and they were smiling and most had not been before that exercise. The ones that couldn't get a laugh going wanted to try it again because they realized they were being reserved in front of others, the most common obstacle that he had faced.

Science has no proof of the healing attributes of laughter. They've actually measured it to see if they could because they actually wanted to prove it did. But some people believe, as this doc does, that it has qualities that cannot be measured. He told me he'd had much better results prescribing laughter because it was the safest drug.

So, when it's getting you down and life is closing in, push it away with laughter. Lose yourself in laughter, let yourself go. The reason you are on the floor is in case you pass out and I actually did that one time, saw those little white lights right before I blacked out because I was truly lost in laughter. And you lose yourself in laughter; you change your perspective. Tensions released from the body and endorphins in the brain and whatever or whoever was getting you down is no longer important.
Very Robert Anton Wilson of you.
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Don’t know how old you are, but much of that can come from lack of testosterone which happens with age. My buddy’s wife was a Dr. and gave him testosterone shot’s once a week and he was walking around like a 21 yr old buck with non-stop you know what. But that comes with side affects. Exercise every day will help keep you going. I swear by it.
I've got to start working out again. I had a major shoulder injury a year and a half ago and it's really just now getting to the point where I think I could do it again.

I don't think a lack of testosterone has ever been my problem but what are the side effects he had from those shots? If it's related to 21-year-old buck status, I understand if you can't go into detail.
 

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Just this week we had a guy who started a few months after me who left and the studio did nothing to acknowledge him. Almost 15 years working here and he wasn't even worth a round of beers or some pizza in the break room in the eyes of management. This guy was a skilled programmer who was valuable, well-liked and a hard worker the entire time. I had two younger guys come into my office yesterday to ask ***? All I could do was shake my head and tell them that they should know the deal by now. Welcome to the real world. I wish I had organized something myself but just don't have the energy these days. I at least spent an hour personally talking to him about old times and saying my goodbyes.
It’s shocking what’s happened to morality in corporate America.
 

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I've got to start working out again. I had a major shoulder injury a year and a half ago and it's really just now getting to the point where I think I could do it again.

I don't think a lack of testosterone has ever been my problem but what are the side effects he had from those shots? If it's related to 21-year-old buck status, I understand if you can't go into detail.
I believe it increases the chance of prostrate issues. He, and his wife, loved it. He said he had tons more energy and drive and was loving life. Unfortunately he got hit my a motorist while riding his bike and died.
 

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I believe it increases the chance of prostrate issues. He, and his wife, loved it. He said he had tons more energy and drive and was loving life. Unfortunately he got hit my a motorist while riding his bike and died.
That sucks man. Sorry for the loss of your friend.
 

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It’s shocking what’s happened to morality in corporate America.
It's worse in this situation because we are a small company. The younger guys were like, what do they think of us if they did nothing for him? I had to say "you know the answer".
 

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I burned out on life in 2016, I'd had all I wanted and just wanted it to go away. I retired, moved down here to hide. But I found that I was trying to hide from myself. I'd always detested my jobs, eventually found something wrong with every place I lived and happiness was out of reach because I wasn't deserving of happiness.

When you're feeling stressed out about that job or just your life in general, time to take inventory of yourself and do the gut check that only you can do for yourself. Might be something deeper causing you some concern, something unresolved about yourself. Something you can do something about to lighten the load on the surface aggravations. And ultimately lighten the load on your life. Recognizing cause and symtpom in our own lives, and particularly the difference, is an arduous task.

I've had too many friends make changes in their lives like divorce or other life altering moves only to find out that wasn't the problem. They'd become dependent on someone else to make them happy and too often we can't even answer the simple question "what would make us happy"? I still can't, I just try to remove the unhappy elements and that started just this last year and I shared that with my fellow Pops posters.

I have a friend in Dallas that is a therapist, she's just a friend and I've never seen her professionally but I saw her last year after my self revelation for cocktails and if it's anyone that deserves to drink it's got to be someone in that profession. She'd worried about me after so much loss in a short period of time because she'd always known my moodiness. After about an hour, she remarked "you look different, you actually look like you've chased the dark clouds away". She knew I wasn't a big supporter of therapy and especially Psychiatry as we'd had many a deep discussion about the mind and it's mysteries and ineptitude to address them.

I looked her in the eyes and said "I tried to run away and hide but I couldn't. I made a decision that if I was going to go on, I wasn't taking any more guilt with me so I decided to forgive myself. Forgive myself for not being the son, husband, father or friend that I felt I should have been because I can't fix most of that now. The past kept chasing me wherever I went". She just smiled and said "thanks for doing my job for me. That's what I do, try to get people to forgive themselves". It's that simple, that's really what they do.

I am not saying Crazy has this problem or any of those that might be stressed or unhappy. But many times, the anger, frustration and irritation with others is really deeper than that, just waiting for resolution. We really are our own best therapists because if we choose to be, we can be brutally honest with the only person in the world that can truly forgive us.
I've read this a few times and just don't know how to respond, I agree with what you're saying but haven't been able to follow through with my thoughts. I'm a freaking mess...
 

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It's worse in this situation because we are a small company. The younger guys were like, what do they think of us if they did nothing for him? I had to say "you know the answer".
Are you guys out of Austin?
 

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This thread is really helping me. It puts things in perspective and what's more important. It's not about yourself, it's more about what you do with where you are at in this space and time.

Maturity has its advantages. https://encrypted-tbn0.***NOT-ALLOWED***/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSA3Iz8YucP1AgjVllEXKZUg6ANbNNoIKd9mz_owUIdv3wsThQP
 

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The monotony of getting up for work, going through the motions, and doing it all over again can suck, even if you enjoy what you're doing. What makes work enjoyable is the people you work with. I still say the best job I ever had was working at a pizza joint when I was 19-20 years old. Granted, I had a whole lot less responsibility and my schedule was much more free.
 

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The monotony of getting up for work, going through the motions, and doing it all over again can suck, even if you enjoy what you're doing. What makes work enjoyable is the people you work with. I still say the best job I ever had was working at a pizza joint when I was 19-20 years old. Granted, I had a whole lot less responsibility and my schedule was much more free.
I get what you're saying. We get so wrapped up in trying to make as much money as possible but the best working memories I have are from when I made a lot less. I appreciate these thoughts because it's making me realize that I really like some of the guys I work with and need to do a better job of showing it.
 

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I've read this a few times and just don't know how to respond, I agree with what you're saying but haven't been able to follow through with my thoughts. I'm a freaking mess...
That's OK Crazy, you don't have to respond, I am just throwing that out there as part of my sharing experiences.

It's all about cause/symptom to me and too often I do not let the symptom push me deeper for the cause. Symptoms are what happens to us and can put us in the passive state of mind. Cause calls for more probing and will call for active response to relieve symptoms. However, once cause is revealed, now we're on the hook for action.

Hey man, don't listen to me, I am doing penance for my past mistakes in the effort to give myself some relief. I probably share too much, write too much but this is my "process" and when I see posters I like feeling low, I am prone to share something personal but all I am really doing is throwing it out there for a take it or leave it, I am still a few thousand answers shy of having them all.
 

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I get what you're saying. We get so wrapped up in trying to make as much money as possible but the best working memories I have are from when I made a lot less. I appreciate these thoughts because it's making me realize that I really like some of the guys I work with and need to do a better job of showing it.
I have made two career decisions in my life primarily based on money and both were the wrong move.
 

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This thread is really helping me. It puts things in perspective and what's more important. It's not about yourself, it's more about what you do with where you are at in this space and time.

Maturity has its advantages. https://encrypted-tbn0.***NOT-ALLOWED***/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSA3Iz8YucP1AgjVllEXKZUg6ANbNNoIKd9mz_owUIdv3wsThQP
It's an old line but I was amazed at how much smarter my Dad got as I got older. We didn't have the relationship I wanted, which might be part of the reason for not heeding his advice, but his advice was solid and I would have had a better life had I taken it.

Maturity really has been revealing about one aspect of life. The emphasis I put on elements of life when I was a younger man were so off base. However, being mature means I get to forgive myself for being young and dumb.

There is nothing sadder than a man with his regrets. To let the past infect the present is a terminal disease.
 

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I've been on sabbatical for a hot minute.
Nothing is inspiring me right now.
Nothing.
I get on a ride for a minute, but it doesn't make me want to get back on. You know?

I've been trying to listen to new music and find something, but... nothing.
DMT?
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I'm scared of it, evidently you see some goat or something but "it's cool". I don't trust myself personally but hear it opens your brain up, etc. Or a museum I guess might work. Hope you get outta ur slump. Working for someone you can coast when you hit that wall; do the absolute least to get by. Feel ya.
 
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