Twitter: Byron Jones is the most obvious free agent to re-sign

[ultron]

People get too infatuated with picks and sacks - so they let one of the top corners in the NFL walk and are talking about bringing back one of the worst DE's (Quinn). It's just mind boggling.

 

[cern]

Stephen tried so hard to explain the situation. there is a pie. there are 53 slices cut into the pie. but when one person wants 10 slices and 3 want 5 slices, that's half the pie. that leaves less and less pie for the other 49 players who all want their slice of pie as well. matters not the flavor.

 

[KJJ]

People get too infatuated with picks and sacks - so they let one of the top corners in the NFL walk and are talking about bringing back one of the worst DE's (Quinn). It's just mind boggling.

What games were you watching last season and did you just start watching football? Sacks and INTs are what gets DEs and corners voted into the Hall of Fame. Sacks and INTs change games. Quinn led the Cowboys with 11.5 sacks and two forced fumbles. Only 8 players registered more sacks than Quinn last season. It’s just mind-boggling that you consider him one of the worst DEs.

 

[bayeslife]

Context always matter and not every position is the same.

You guys try to generalize and thats why you love Dak's 5000 yards and 30 TD's but when you break it down it is nothing special.

okay, but then what makes Byron Jones special? The defense was responsible for giving up horrendous performances to subpar QBs last season.

I like Byron and I’d prefer to keep him. But in terms of impact made on the field, he’s easily the most replaceable of any our top free agents.

 

[CATCH17]

okay, but then what makes Byron Jones special? The defense was responsible for giving up horrendous performances to subpar QBs last season.

I like Byron and I’d prefer to keep him. But in terms of impact made on the field, he’s easily the most replaceable of any our top free agents.

What makes Byron Jones special?

He's incredible at covering anyone in this league and he's dynamic enough with size to lineup on guys like Zach Ertz or play in the slot and take on those guys as well.

He's the ultimate chess piece when it comes to covering because of how dynamic he is.

You're basically letting go of a similar player to Jaylon Ramsey.

 

[ultron]

What games were you watching last season and did you just start watching football? Sacks and INTs are what gets DEs and corners voted into the Hall of Fame. Sacks and INTs change games. Quinn led the Cowboys with 11.5 sacks and two forced fumbles. Only 8 players registered more sacks than Quinn last season. It’s just mind-boggling that you consider him one of the worst DEs.

My point is there's more to being a CB and DE. Byron faced the #1 WR on every team and teams would avoid his side of the field - the stat that OP posted doesn't lie. Quinn literally costed the Cowboys games because all he was doing was sack hunting (knowing that's how you get a big contract), he was one of the worst 5 defensive ends in the entire NFL vs. the run. Teams torched his side of the field and he's even worse against screens because he's dumb. Not to mention he's only 265lbs (vastly undersized for a DE). The guy sucks but you guys can defend his 11 sacks all you want, our defense took a huge step back with adding him and he's a big reason why we were 8-8 and our linebackers looked like crap for most of the year b/c they had to compensate for his lack of ability to stop the run & screens.

 

[Proof]

Based off of what he did his first three seasons he deserved to be the highest paid RB. Dak and Amari’s contracts will have more to do with us losing Jones than Zeke’s deal. We can’t pay everyone and someone is going to be the odd man out. We’re trying to keep all our playmakers. Jones isn’t worth being the highest paid corner in the league.

mom not complaining about the money (although .....). More concerned with the timing.

 

[CouchCoach]

Stephen tried so hard to explain the situation. there is a pie. there are 53 slices cut into the pie. but when one person wants 10 slices and 3 want 5 slices, that's half the pie. that leaves less and less pie for the other 49 players who all want their slice of pie as well. matters not the flavor.

Looks like he's been sneaking a couple of slices of that pie, he's about 30 lbs short of being Tweedledum to McC's Tweedledee.

There ya go, Greg, a new nickname.

 

[CouchCoach]

mom not complaining about the money (although .....). More concerned with the timing.

I am glad your mom's not complaining about the money as sometimes, mom's do that.

 

[KJJ]

My point is there's more to being a CB and DE. Byron faced the #1 WR on every team and teams would avoid his side of the field - the stat that OP posted doesn't lie. Quinn literally costed the Cowboys games because all he was doing was sack hunting (knowing that's how you get a big contract), he was one of the worst 5 defensive ends in the entire NFL vs. the run. Teams torched his side of the field and he's even worse against screens because he's dumb. Not to mention he's only 265lbs (vastly undersized for a DE). The guy sucks but you guys can defend his 11 sacks all you want, our defense took a huge step back with adding him and he's a big reason why we were 8-8 and our linebackers looked like crap for most of the year b/c they had to compensate for his lack of ability to stop the run & screens.

Cowboys brought in Quinn to pressure the QB. The reason DEs are drafted so high and make the huge dollars is because of sacks. Quinn had 11.5 sacks and forced 2 fumbles, he impacted games for us. He wasn’t costing us any games. You obviously don’t have a clue about football if you thought he sucked last season and cost us games. Jones is a good cover corner but he gives up underneath plays which has allowed teams to move the chains. He has terrible ball skills which is another reason he doesn’t get picks. He’s not a playmaker and our secondary desperately needs players who can get takeaways. You’re obviously not a very astute football fan so not going any further with you.

 

[cern]

Looks like he's been sneaking a couple of slices of that pie, he's about 30 lbs short of being Tweedledum to McC's Tweedledee.

There ya go, Greg, a new nickname.

the pie has been proven to be a tried and true teaching method since I was in the first grade. and that was a very long time ago.

 

[KJJ]

mom not complaining about the money (although .....). More concerned with the timing.

If Zeke didn’t get paid heading into last season he would be wanting to get paid now. Jerry and Stephen would have a whole lot on their plate having to deal with Zeke, Dak and Amari. All three are playmakers and Jones isn’t.

 

[BigCatMonaco]

Picks are rare these days in the NFL. It's not like the old days.

Teams didn't throw on his side much. He's an excellent cover corner.

101 players just last season had as many or more interceptions than Jones has IN HIS CAREER.

 

[Jake]

Didn't Sherman get burned in the SB? Stat's don't be everything.

Indeed, let's ignore an entire season's worth of data and focus on one play.

 

[mattjames2010]

There is more to being a great CB than not allowing many yards.

That's just one way to measure or judge CB's.

And there is more than just INTs. Peters got INTs, yet he's bouncing around the NFL. Why is that? 3 out of the last 5 seasons, Norman had 3+ INTs in a season, he's looking for a new team. Janoris Jenkins had multiple 3+ INT seasons, on his third team.

Jones isn't a prime Revis, he's not a top 3 corner. He's a top 20 with elite man to man skills - in the day and age of bad defensive rules, it's more valuable to have a guy who sticks to the WR he opposes than one that gets burned but gets a few INTs.

 

[mattjames2010]

101 players just last season had as many or more interceptions than Jones has IN HIS CAREER.

How many ranked as high as Jones did the past two years since moving to corner?

 

[mattjames2010]

Guys, hes going to break the bank. Getting INTs isn't the only deciding factor. There is a perceived value for what Jones brings to the table. I can live with 0-3 INTs a year if he's getting paid CB #6-10 money. Not #1. He's not worth that.

What corner has broke the bank in recent years? The most a CB makes right now is 15 a year. Corners are extremely affordable despite how valuable they are.

 

[Verdict]

If you want Jones, then you get to see Cooper walk. Probably Quinn as well.

It's a numbers game and that's simply how it is. Pick your hole to fill - WR, CB or DE. You're filling two of those holes with picks somewhere along the way.

I think you can get either Jeudy or Lamb at #17. I am not sure there will be a CB that is graded as good as either of them at #17.

 

[mattjames2010]

Pretty good isn't what you expect with that type of investment.

They've been better than "pretty good" - they were ranked top 3 this year. They're an elite unit.

 

[KJJ]

What corner has broke the bank in recent years? The most a CB makes right now is 15 a year. Corners are extremely affordable despite how valuable they are.

Jones may be the most coveted corner that’s been made available in free agency in recent years. Reports are he could make as much as $20M per season. He ranks 7th on this list and is the top corner available in free agency.


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