Calling all Olgetree fans

[poost]

Most importantly Romo trusts him. I think that is one of the most important things a wr needs. I remember preseason Romo made a comment about Ogletree. Something like he's got everyhing he needs to be a good receiver or something along those lines.

 

[Prime21]

he had a great TC and preseason. everytime he got into a regular season game he made plays. ive never seen him drop a pass. i do think Garrett had some plays for him in the Saints game but he only got one catch.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Agree with you there. But still why Ogletree over the rest? Thats what i cant seem to find a answer to. If you think Roy needs to ride the bench then that probably agreed upon by many many people. But why call for Ogletree to jump over Hurd, and Crayton?

Why not? Why did you start a thread asking so many questions? When will you stop asking so many questions? Why am I even bumping this to the top of the page? Why do bad things happen to good people? If we're physical bodies governed by fundamental physical laws is there truly such thing as free will? Will you please stop asking so many questions?

 

[Jimz31]

Agree with you there. But still why Ogletree over the rest? Thats what i cant seem to find a answer to. If you think Roy needs to ride the bench then that probably agreed upon by many many people. But why call for Ogletree to jump over Hurd, and Crayton?

There may be a few that are calling for him to "start" over them, but I haven't seen too many. I think more people want him "more involved" than a pass here and there thrown his way.

I don't know if he's dropped any...I can't remember any. Hence the reason why people like what they see once he's in there.

 

[superonyx]

You could say this about anybody that hasn't been "given a chance" yet. It's like employers not hiring due to lack of experience...if EVERY company was the same way, NOBODY would get experience.

From what he HAS shown, people like....is that so wrong?

I guess the question is, outside of his lack of catches, DUE TO LACK OF PLAYING TIME, what DON'T you like about him?

Also, collegiate stats and careers really don't impress me too much at this time of year....shall we go through all of the #1 draft choices in the past 10 years?

I never said there was anything i didnt like about him. I am not bashing his skills. What i am wondering is how people are so excited about him that they actually think he should start. How can we know he is better than anyone else when all we have seen are 6 catches and i think 2 of them were screen passes. We dont know enough about him to keep calling for him to start. Thats the whole point. He is an unknown. If someone should take Roys position is would be Crayton or Hurd over Ogletree. At least until we know more about him.

 

[Jimz31]

I never said there was anything i didnt like about him. I am not bashing his skills. What i am wondering is how people are so excited about him that they actually think he should start. How can we know he is better than anyone else when all we have seen are 6 catches and i think 2 of them were screen passes. We dont know enough about him to keep calling for him to start. Thats the whole point. He is an unknown. If someone should take Roys position is would be Crayton or Hurd over Ogletree. At least until we know more about him.

I agree that it would be one of those two first....I have no problem with that...I also have no problem with him getting alot more involved.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I want to find the reasons for all the Ogletree hype going on around in the forum. I just cant understand what so many people are so excited about. Now this doesnt mean i have an opinion either way on whether he will ever be a starting caliber player in the NFL. I dont know. He has 6 pro catches. Thats right 6 catches. Why do so many people keep calling for him to start? I know people have made it their person mission to bash Roy Williams every chance they get and i dont post this in defense of Roy. I just want to figure out why i keep reading post after post about how Ogletree is the answer to Roy's lack of production.

Please explain a few points.

Ogletree's best college year was 58 catches 723 yards and 5 TD's.

He wasnt drafted for a reason. He wasnt productive enough in college and now he is supposed to come in as a rookie and leapfrog Crayton and Hurd.

Sam Hurd best college year was 65 catches 1064 yards and 13 td's. He is only 24 years old. Why is no one making his case?

Crayton has produced tons more than ogletree.


Please explain what is so amazing about this guy that warrants him leapfrogging Roy Williams, Crayton, and Hurd? What are these amazing factors that qualifies him to get so much hype?

Every game when he catches a pass the groupies come out and call for him to start. He has 6 catches for the season. 6.

Tony Romo wasn't drafted either just saying.

 

[theogt]

I never said there was anything i didnt like about him. I am not bashing his skills. What i am wondering is how people are so excited about him that they actually think he should start. How can we know he is better than anyone else when all we have seen are 6 catches and i think 2 of them were screen passes. We dont know enough about him to keep calling for him to start. Thats the whole point. He is an unknown. If someone should take Roys position is would be Crayton or Hurd over Ogletree. At least until we know more about him.

If you watch a guy in training camp, watch the guy in preseason, and watch the guy play sparingly in regular time, you better have a good idea as to whether he can start or not. If you don't, you need to stop watching football, because you're wasting you're time looking at something you don't anything about.

 

[PoetTree]

It's really just because they (I) can see his talent. He's doing things most rookies don't, regardless of draft status. He's shown remarkable route-running ability from day 1, has an impressive burst & speed, some moves in the open field, tends to catch absolutely everything that's thrown at him, has displayed pro-level footwork (how'd ya like those toe-taps on the high catch against the Saints?!), and has been impressively producing whenever given the opportunity through training camp, pre-season games and now in the regular season against real, live NFL teams. Couple all that with Babe Laughenberg's continued insistence that Ogletree is the second best receiver on the team RIGHT NOW, and whose performance in practice is forcing the coaches to use him in games, and that the coaches are using him in games...

.... and it's not all that hard to see why his fans are excited to see more of him. It's not really about what he did or didn't do in college. It's about what it appears he can do in the NFL right now, for the Dallas Cowboys. And with Roy Williams underperforming so woefully, naturally, some fans want to see us go with the hot hand, the undrafted phenom, and just see what the guy has really got. Because in all honesty, Roy isn't giving us much. He's a good blocker. Every now & then he catches a wide open touchdown that Garrett schemed him open for. But he's hardly making anything happen on his own, and even when he does, he usually finds a way to screw it up. Sounds harsh. But it's currently true.

We wanna see Ogletree because the potential he shows is more exciting than the mediocrity being displayed by our so-called #1 wide receiver...





Peace,
Poet

 

[Jimz31]

It's really just because they (I) can see his talent. He's doing things most rookies don't, regardless of draft status. He's shown remarkable route-running ability from day 1, has an impressive burst & speed, some moves in the open field, tends to catch absolutely everything that's thrown at him, has displayed pro-level footwork (how'd ya like those toe-taps on the high catch against the Saints?!), and has been impressively producing whenever given the opportunity through training camp, pre-season games and now in the regular season against real, live NFL teams. Couple all that with Babe Laughenberg's continued insistence that Ogletree is the second best receiver on the team RIGHT NOW, and whose performance in practice is forcing the coaches to use him in games, and that the coaches are using him in games...
.... and it's not all that hard to see why his fans are excited to see more of him. It's not really about what he did or didn't do in college. It's about what it appears he can do in the NFL right now, for the Dallas Cowboys. And with Roy Williams underperforming so woefully, naturally, some fans want to see us go with the hot hand, the undrafted phenom, and just see what the guy has really got. Because in all honesty, Roy isn't giving us much. He's a good blocker. Every now & then he catches a wide open touchdown that Garrett schemed him open for. But he's hardly making anything happen on his own, and even when he does, he usually finds a way to screw it up. Sounds harsh. But it's currently true.

We wanna see Ogletree because the potential he shows is more exciting than the mediocrity being displayed by our so-called #1 wide receiver...





Peace,
Poet

I'll second that....

 

[Nexx]

He catches the ball cleanly with his hands.

His routes are precise.

He is explosive and quick out of his cuts.

He can run after the catch with wiggle, power and desire.

He understands how to set-up CBs so that he is open when and where he wants to be open.

He seems to have excellent body control.

He shows tremendous focus when he is out there.

He makes plays, not excuses in press conferences.

He doesn't make a stupid gesture after every first down.

He hasn't created a fuss when inferior receivers in front of him steal his snaps.

he reminds of me marvin harrison, not saying he is or ever will be marvin but his game and measureables remind me of harrison.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

UT fan?

 

[Americas_Team]

That kid will be a star player in the NFL for a long time. Hopefully the guy will be starting next year next to Miles Austin.

 

[WoodysGirl]

I think the more important question is why not like him?

Never hurts to root for a guy who was undrafted and shows real promise.

 

[Hostile]

I am not one of the Ogletree fans, but I will tell you what I see.

First, he leaves the blocks clean and gets to speed very quickly. He makes sharp cuts and then he catches the ball with his hands and pulls it in to his body, and then he fights for every possible inch he can gain.

I like the kid, I just don't want to throw him to the wolves. Let him develop and I think he will be a very good WR for us.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I think the more important question is why not like him?

Never hurts to root for a guy who was undrafted and shows real promise.

i.e. Tony Romo and Miles Austin.

 

[Hoofbite]

And you know all this about him how? What secret tapes do you have? So do you mean you studied his 6 catches and came to this conclusion? Wow.

So you ask for reasons why people are hyped about him and then piss all over the reasons?

Nice tactic. Maybe next time you should just preface you first post with:

"I'm only asking so I can call you an idiot".

 

[superonyx]

I think the more important question is why not like him?

Never hurts to root for a guy who was undrafted and shows real promise.

See i actually do like him. I just would be really nervous if Austin went down with an injury and suddenly Ogletree is starting. Why would i be nervous? Because we have not seen enough to say he deserves a starting spot.

It's not like calling for Felix to start. At least we have seen felix for 2 years contribute with an amazing YPC. Plus he was a 1st round draft pick.

But anyway... I am not anti Ogletree. I love that he wasnt drafted. I like that Dallas developed him. I hope he turns out to be great for many years. I just dont know how people on the board have seen so much more than i have of Ogletree to jump him past Crayton and Hurd already.

The questions i am asking is how do we know strongly enough to call for him to start over guys that have accomplished more?

 

[Zman5]

Those numbers are pretty good considering what kind of offense (run heavy) that was ran at Virginia. And the QB they had was pretty bad.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I am not one of the Ogletree fans, but I will tell you what I see.

First, he leaves the blocks clean and gets to speed very quickly. He makes sharp cuts and then he catches the ball with his hands and pulls it in to his body, and then he fights for every possible inch he can gain.

I like the kid, I just don't want to throw him to the wolves. Let him develop and I think he will be a very good WR for us.

I don't like this let him development idea. Throw him into the fire see how he comes out. No point in babying our players.