Calling David Irving

[buybuydandavis]

I am gonna get slammed for this. But if he decides he wanted to play football and go after a ring, I wonder if he is in shape and if MM and JJ would be interested in taking a look. I know a lot of you don’t like what he did. And I don’t care for the way he treated the whole situation.

That being said he would be a beast at McCoy’s position. But wasn’t he indefinitely suspended or suspended for 1 year, would he have time to ask for reinstatement. I don’t think that we will even consider him but man what a time it would be to have him playing.

Now with the rule change he would simply pay a fine..

That's a good idea.

With the old regime gone, both Irving and the coaches may be more positive toward him signing with us.

If he *hadn't* previously been with us, he'd be *exactly* the kind of guy we'd be signing now. Out of the league a year, so convertible into a comp pick too.

They should totally take a look. Even if he's not football ready, if he can be ready later in the season, he's a go. Best case is they declare him pup until he's ready so he doesn't even eat a roster spot until he's our best option.

 

[buybuydandavis]

He said he’d never come back to the Cowboys. Pretty sure those feelings are mutual

But, new coaching staff. Maybe that's where the bad feelings were on both sides.

Maybe not, too, but if so, bring him in and take a look. We need DT pass rush bad.

 

[buybuydandavis]

He is making millions with his medical marijuana business. He's gone...

Playing would boost his visibility and his business. And potentially give more millions in a contract next year.

Playing is a win for him. Even a personal win over the league that booted him.

His business doesn't evaporate if he plays. It's helped.

 

[Williamsboys]

If David Irving ever comes back to play for the Cowboys I am no longer a fan of this team.
Anyways I thought he retired in a big cloud of smoke.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

If David Irving ever comes back to play for the Cowboys I am no longer a fan of this team.
Anyways I thought he retired in a big cloud of smoke.

LLLOOLLL, STOP WILL!

 

[quickccc]

I doubt they would be interested, however, McCarthy did watch him singlehandedly dismantle the GB offense a few years ago. That may influence the interest.

But the current existing management team here with that is very well familiar with David Irving during his stay here,
including the guy that scouted and brought him in with a gamble with Wil McClay, they are sure to inform
McCarthy should Irving subject even dare come up.

And that management know his drive, passion and effort (or lack there of) and character issues and any questions surrounding
Irving in those capacities.

Plus i'm not sure with how the new CBA works with suspended, or pending suspension that guys like Irving were definitely
facing, whereas he should be up to a 8 game ban (at the least) because of his past suspension history.

Would his suspension be grandfathered in before the CBA took place and he'd have to still serve out as such ?
Or would his suspension be immediately negated the the new CBA policy according to marijuana substances ?
I'm thinking it's the former,. .rather than the latter .. since he would have to file for/and get reinstatement

 

[quickccc]

He is in the reinstatement process now. But with the way he acted towards the NFL I am not sure what they will do. They are giving Gregory fits over weed also. They say the changed the rules but goodell is still in charge. Politics are involved.

Good point.
- i believe the current Gregory status is politically driven too.
It's just too hard for me to believe an long standing, professional organization as strongly reputed as the
NFL is this disorganized.
if they are this back-logged, that's just on them and they cannot let their slack detour what they needed to
address with Gregory reinstatement status. He's already way into training camp time

- i really hope i'm so very wrong with this, but i'm already calling it that Goodell is intentionally delaying
Gregory's reinstatement with the aim for him to sit out the season per personally politics.

- i think i heard that there is now a mediation committee panel per the new CBA policy that can intervene
and make the final decision if there is a conflicting status regarding suspensions but i don't think that mediation holds
for pending past suspensions before the new CBA agreement.

- i haven't publicly heard much grievance from the NFLPA on behalf of Gregory either.
i did wondered if the Players Union were to make the neglect on Randy's reinstatement public,. could that pressure
actually work in Randy's favor? Thats' what i think Randy was really counting.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Good point.
- i believe the current Gregory status is politically driven too.
It's just too hard for me to believe an long standing, professional organization as strongly reputed as the
NFL is this disorganized.
if they are this back-logged, that's just on them and they cannot let their slack detour what they needed to
address with Gregory reinstatement status. He's already way into training camp time

- i really hope i'm so very wrong with this, but i'm already calling it that Goodell is intentionally delaying
Gregory's reinstatement with the aim for him to sit out the season per personally politics.

- i think i heard that there is now a mediation committee panel per the new CBA policy that can intervene
and make the final decision if there is a conflicting status regarding suspensions but i don't think that mediation holds
for pending past suspensions before the new CBA agreement.

- i haven't publicly heard much grievance from the NFLPA on behalf of Gregory either.
i did wondered if the Players Union were to make the neglect on Randy's reinstatement public,. could that pressure
actually work in Randy's favor? Thats' what i think Randy was really counting.

Why????? What does Goodell/league gain by forcing Randy to sit out? I'll tell you what, ask Randy how long he's been sober? If he can pass a weed test today?

 

[BermyStar]

I hope you don't get slammed for offering something to discuss. It's a fair thought if talent level were the only consideration, problem is talent level is the only box he checks. I wish him the best, but I doubt he'll ever be in pads again.

 

[Bullflop]

Irving really got on the wrong side of Commishioner Goodell with his marijuana advocacy being a constant devotion of his. I seriously doubt that Goodell is about to grant him a welcome back into the NFL. Irving is still very much involved in his advocacy of marijuana. It's something that Roger Goodell surely doesn't take casually in the least.

Outside of that being so, Tristen Hill has seemingly undergone a transition into a far more devoted student of pro football than he was previously. He's even drawn praise from HC, Mike McCarthy lately, who stated he's asking lots of questions in meetings and performing well. Tyrone Crawford is another who says he's been an eyewitness of Hill's transformation into a more matured person and player.

 

[fivetwos]

Irving really got on the wrong side of Commishioner Goodell with his marijuana advocacy being a constant devotion of his. I seriously doubt that Goodell is about to grant him a welcome back into the NFL. Irving is still very much involved in his advocacy of marijuana. It's something that Roger Goodell surely doesn't take casually in the least.

Outside of that being so, Tristen Hill has seemingly undergone a transition into a far more devoted student of pro football than he was previously. He's even drawn praise from HC, Mike McCarthy lately, who stated he's asking lots of questions in meetings and performing well. Tyrone Crawford is another who says he's been an eyewitness of Hill's transformation into a more matured person and player.

Been thinking about this, and I doubt that Jerry didnt attempt to find out what would be what as far as Irving being welcomed back, and if it may be worth certain things (like 8 games in a row without offensive holding on our opponents during the Elliott appeals).

It's not as if Jerry doesnt know he is there. Either Irving doesnt want to play, or Jerry figures it's not worth the fight.

Either way I suspect there will be better options after final cuts...as far as who can be counted on...than Irving.

Guy is done in the league and he probably did it to himself.

Softening the marijuana policy was one thing, Goodell probably doesnt want to turn the league into a Cheech and Chong movie, and I don't disagree.

 

[jterrell]

It is WILD to me that people insult/harass/hate on players who:
exceed beyond our wildest dreams like Dak, Jeff Heath, Jaylon
work hard as they possibly can to contribute like Tyrone Crawford/ most everyone

YET STILL champion guys who are essentially the NFL version of bums. Dudes who refuse to leave the couch and hate the actual work of being an NFL player.

--the above does not mean we can't be happy to upgrade over some Jeff Heath level player when we actually do.

 

[Jake]

I am gonna get slammed for this. But if he decides he wanted to play football and go after a ring, I wonder if he is in shape and if MM and JJ would be interested in taking a look. I know a lot of you don’t like what he did. And I don’t care for the way he treated the whole situation.

That being said he would be a beast at McCoy’s position. But wasn’t he indefinitely suspended or suspended for 1 year, would he have time to ask for reinstatement. I don’t think that we will even consider him but man what a time it would be to have him playing.

Now with the rule change he would simply pay a fine..

Dude doesn't love football. Never did.

Cannabis advocate David Irving is happier ‘saving lives’ than playing in the NFL

“I gave up football for a bigger cause. I want to change the bias toward marijuana. I want to educate America that it’s not a drug, it’s medicine. The real reason I’m not in the NFL is that I’d rather be out here saving lives,” he said.

 

[Bullflop]

Been thinking about this, and I doubt that Jerry didnt attempt to find out what would be what as far as Irving being welcomed back, and if it may be worth certain things (like 8 games in a row without offensive holding on our opponents during the Elliott appeals).

It's not as if Jerry doesnt know he is there. Either Irving doesnt want to play, or Jerry figures it's not worth the fight.

Either way I suspect there will be better options after final cuts...as far as who can be counted on...than Irving.

Guy is done in the league and he probably did it to himself.

Softening the marijuana policy was one thing, Goodell probably doesnt want to turn the league into a Cheech and Chong movie, and I don't disagree.

Yeah, about a week ago, Stephen said he hadn't heard anything from Goodell, so that says something about it, although no further details were offered. Whether that means they've been in contact with him lately or haven't been was never mentioned. In any case, I would imagine they would have been privy to hearing something if there were any intentions of rescinding his suspension. I agree that Irving is most likely done in the NFL.

 

[fivetwos]

Yeah, about a week ago, Stephen said he hadn't heard anything from Goodell, so that says something about it, although no further details were offered. Whether that means they've been in contact with him lately or haven't been was never mentioned. In any case, I would imagine they would have been privy to hearing something if there were any intentions of rescinding his suspension. I agree that Irving is most likely done in the NFL.

As much as I like to be critical of those two, I dont at all think they are sitting around and hadn't at all thought about Irving.

They know the exact deal with him and Gregory. The idea that the organization is much more tight lipped about anything is encouraging.

 

[fivetwos]

Dude doesn't love football. Never did.

Cannabis advocate David Irving is happier ‘saving lives’ than playing in the NFL

“I gave up football for a bigger cause. I want to change the bias toward marijuana. I want to educate America that it’s not a drug, it’s medicine. The real reason I’m not in the NFL is that I’d rather be out here saving lives,” he said.

Get yourself motivated, into football shape, get yourself paid, then donate every cent to world hunger and poverty and you'll save many more lives that way rather than trying to convince everyone that smoking weed is some miracle cure for this and that.

What a fraud.

 

[glimmerman]

Good point.
- i believe the current Gregory status is politically driven too.
It's just too hard for me to believe an long standing, professional organization as strongly reputed as the
NFL is this disorganized.
if they are this back-logged, that's just on them and they cannot let their slack detour what they needed to
address with Gregory reinstatement status. He's already way into training camp time

- i really hope i'm so very wrong with this, but i'm already calling it that Goodell is intentionally delaying
Gregory's reinstatement with the aim for him to sit out the season per personally politics.

- i think i heard that there is now a mediation committee panel per the new CBA policy that can intervene
and make the final decision if there is a conflicting status regarding suspensions but i don't think that mediation holds
for pending past suspensions before the new CBA agreement.

- i haven't publicly heard much grievance from the NFLPA on behalf of Gregory either.
i did wondered if the Players Union were to make the neglect on Randy's reinstatement public,. could that pressure
actually work in Randy's favor? Thats' what i think Randy was really counting.

I think that’s why Gregory went to social media and got on his rep. Trying to force the issue. And your right he has missed reps in camps already. If he isn’t able to get in camps very soon he won’t know the new Defense and will be little help other than situational pass rushing.

 

[khiladi]

When Irving played, he was a beast..

 

[glimmerman]

That's a good idea.

With the old regime gone, both Irving and the coaches may be more positive toward him signing with us.

If he *hadn't* previously been with us, he'd be *exactly* the kind of guy we'd be signing now. Out of the league a year, so convertible into a comp pick too.

They should totally take a look. Even if he's not football ready, if he can be ready later in the season, he's a go. Best case is they declare him pup until he's ready so he doesn't even eat a roster spot until he's our best option.

Yep. His hard feelings were with JG. Even Marinelli knew what he had on the field with him.

 

[glimmerman]

Love Irving. He said he could roll out of bed and play and he's right. When he's on the field he's a top 5 DT. Garrett spent so much time trying to coach and still can't coach to save his life. Some guys hat IT, some guys don't.

Yeah. He needs to learn the new Defense but DT in this system maybe easier to learn..