Campbell compared to Romo

[AdamJT13]

I've seen his games, almost all of them, and I'm thrilled at the prospect of facing him twice a year...the guy is NOT accurate, that's a fact that game announcers and local reporters on channel 7 here talk about all the time.

According to STATS LLC., Campbell's "poor throw" percentage was 19.3 percent -- 40 poor throws out of 207 attempts. The only quarterbacks with at least 140 attempts who were worse are Jake Plummer (a league-worst 21.5 percent), Donovan McNabb and Seneca Wallace. Campbell finished slightly better than Bruce Gradkowski, Vince Young, Eli Manning, Rex Grossman, Joey Harrington and Michael Vick.

 

[silverbear]

Apparently you have been watching a different team and QB then....because everything I've seen indicates that Campbell is going to be a player in this league. He has a rocket arm, can buy time in the pocket and is a big boy.

Stop hating just because he plays on the hated skins....this kid is for real believe me.

Chuckle... "this kid" put up a lofty 76.5 quarterback rating... he was only a little over 50 per cent completions, his yards per attempt was comically low (6.27, compared to Tony's 8.61 YPA), and his team averaged all of 177.4 yards per game passing while he was the starter... this despite getting REALLY good pass protection, and perhaps the league's best running game the last month of the season, both of which should have made his life even easier...

So, what is it that makes you so certain "this kid is for real believe me"??

Before you answer, let me give you the stats of another Skins first time starter from the not too distant past:

227 attempts, 117 completions... 51.5 completion percentage... 6.78 yards per attempt... 9 TDs, 8 ints... in 5 games as a starter, the Skins averaged 190.6 net yards per game passing... quarterback rating of 71.8...

The quarterback?? Patrick Ramsey...

I think you'll agree those stats are remarkable similar to Jason's (Campbell had a slightly better completion percentage and quarterback rating, Ramsey had the better yards per attempt average and net yards per game passing)... I also think you'll agree that Ramsey didn't turn out to be "for real"...

So again I ask, what is it that makes you so certain that Campbell will succeed where Ramsey did not??

 

[silverbear]

Haha sorry to hear that man. I'm just glad you dont truly believe that.

Actually, I meant to comment on the quality of the pass protection he received, don't know how in God's name I screwed it up that way... couldn't believe my own words when I read them...

 

[TobiasEagle77]

And before anyone says anything, Romo's 31.3-percent completion rate on passes more than 20 yards downfield, that puts him among the top third of all quarterbacks. The NFL average on those passes is 29.1 percent.

Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, J.P. Losman, Chad Pennington, Carson Palmer, Tom Brady, Philip Rivers, Rex Grossman and Steve McNair were the others in the top 10 for completion rate on deep passes.

Wherever you got your stats must not include McNabb, who was 33% on passes thrown more than 20 yards. In about 9.5 games he threw 42 such passes and completed 14. Projects to 24/71

As for Campbell, your stats show that my observation was entirely inaccurate. Yet others had the same observation, funny how that works. I wonder how the two compare on mid range throws and how many of Campbell's misses were drops or wr mistakes. Clearly right now, Romo is the better deep passer.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I think Romo's biggest thing is we can't be placing him in a situation where he's forced to win the game each and every week.

that's part of it, but another part is ROmo's reckless style of play, that we've been hearing about ever since he's been here, he forces things, and forgets about mechanics, because he's way overconfident in his abilities, which he should be, he's very talented, but that only works in college football, he needs to channel at least some of his aggression

 

[Bob Sacamano]

and the better defense going for him...

 

[The30YardSlant]

Campbell has looked BAD if you've watched the Commanders play much the last month. He is nowhere near Romo, and like I've said from the start, never will be.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

What is Campbell's won-loss record? Don't think he's won many.
However, he seems like a pure passer, athletic. Far away the best QB the horrendous Skins have had in a while.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

I was hoping he would be a huge bust since it's the Commanders but I honestly think that Campbell is going to be a stud in this league.

Romo has seemed to get worse as the season came to a close while Campbell looked to be improving.....I guess we'll just have to see what happens an revist this comparison in a few years.

Believe it or not a I do believe in Romo too.....

I reluctantly have to agree. Jason Campbell looks for real. I critisized him, but always said that Gibbs knows a thing or 2 about QBs. The kid seems confident and has a big time arm.

 

[apickmans]

Campbell has looked BAD if you've watched the Commanders play much the last month. He is nowhere near Romo, and like I've said from the start, never will be.

Theres my boy HH31!!! I was wondering when you were gonna show up with the hate

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Theres my boy HH31!!! I was wondering when you were gonna show up with the hate

he hates all QBs that aren't Reggie McNeal

he must throw a mean 30-yard slant

 

[smarta5150]

Why is this discussion still going on?

Campbell is nothing compared to Romo.

Only time will tell but as of now there shouldnt be a comparison.

If Romo had a running game right now we wouldnt even be talking about this?

Look back a few pages and check out my post comparing the Skins running game as to ours.

Give Romo the same running support and he'd be even better than his 95 rating.

 

[Apollo Creed]

This thread is still alive?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

This thread is still alive?

not now, you killed it when you entered it :

 

[The30YardSlant]

Theres my boy HH31!!! I was wondering when you were gonna show up with the hate

Hate has nothing to do with anything. The man simply isnt an NFL QB.

 

[The30YardSlant]

he hates all QBs that aren't Reggie McNeal

he must throw a mean 30-yard slant

Reggie McNeal isnt even a QB, nice try

 

[apickmans]

Hate has nothing to do with anything. The man simply isnt an NFL QB.

u should prob change your name to HeavyHata31 with statements like that.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Reggie McNeal isnt even a QB, nice try

yet you hyped him over Vince Young as one

I rest my case

 

[MarkBrunell]

This thread screams for homerism. Well hey I'm Skins homer and my answer is give me next season and I will tell you.

Romo has been in the league for 4 seasons. At the time Campbell is starting he was playing behind Vinny Testaverde in a meaningless season so its quite obvious that Campbell might be the faster learner and more upside guy.

Anyone whos watched Campbell closely since hes been starting know their witnessing exactly what Steve McNair was when he came into the league. Campbell has shown the same touch on deep passes, the ability to go head on with Linebackers and safeties and the same calm leadership skills. Hopefully he doesn't take the injury bug from Steve.

Campbell has also had better and equal numbers in his first starts as guys like Carson Palmer, Donovan McNabb and Peyton Manning, and hes definetly not a turnover machine.

 

[steve09ru]

he does have a poor completion rating, but that is because he is getting more shots downfield to throw the ball...i think somebody earlier said 30 couple over 20 yards. There have also been a lot of dropped passes (some for romo from T.O.) but he does let too many get away from him where he ends up low or high. It's something that can easily be fixed.

As for the comparison, I would have to say Romo right now because he has a lot of experience and has been in the same system for a while. Campbell has learned six different systems in his last 6 years. They are both still learning and do not seem to let mistakes get to them very easily which is really good.

Romo is relied to more for passing than Campbell is because of the Skins running game. If the Cowboys had the same running game with the same blocking then Romo's passing yardage would be lower and that is where JC hurts. He doesn't have time to get in the groove.

But I do believe both will be a force in this league for a while as long as they continue to have the playmakers around them