Campbell compared to Romo

[AdamJT13]

Wherever you got your stats must not include McNabb, who was 33% on passes thrown more than 20 yards. In about 9.5 games he threw 42 such passes and completed 14. Projects to 24/71

Actually, I just had a typo in that post. Romo's completion percentage was 34.4 percent (22 of 64). And the rankings use that number. When I posted, I accidentally used 20-for-64 instead of 22-for-64. (I think the "20 yards past the line of scrimmage" had me stuck on the number 20.)

McNabb's 33.3 percent finished just outside the top 10.

 

[steve09ru]

he doesn't play defense in which everyone seems to score at ease against

Edit: to whoever asked about the win-losses

 

[SkinsFan07]

No, but then again, he never had his team competitive in the game to begin with.

IMO, you can blame the defense for that.

Exactly. Our defense was horrible!

we scored 31 points at HOME and our defense still lost us the game. So familiar this year. They have lost us at least 5 games this year.

Campbell did what he could and even though he threw those 4 incompletion's he still showed poise. All or D had to do was hold Tiki one time, and we should have won.

BTW at one point in the 2nd half, Campbell was 16 of 18, and he wasnt throwing dump offs like Brunell, they were actual passes.

 

[SkinsFan07]

What is Campbell's won-loss record? Don't think he's won many.
However, he seems like a pure passer, athletic. Far away the best QB the horrendous Skins have had in a while.

Have you seen that defense we have? It sucks

The losses dont fall on Campbells part all the time. Hell we put up 31 points against the Rams and lost, and put up 28 against the Gianst and lost.

I think that is enough points to win a game, unless your defense is pathetic, which it was all of this year and finished a sorry 31st in the league.

 

[Rampage]

why is this even a topic? no comparisions at all

 

[SkinsFan07]

Just like you guys say Campbell is only good b/c of his run game, well if we had a defense such as the cowboys did that actually produced turnovers and gave the offense good field position, this would be a whole different story.

 

[The30YardSlant]

u should prob change your name to HeavyHata31 with statements like that.

Prove me wrong

I'll be waiting

 

[silverbear]

sorry to hear that, SB!

can I ask how you did it?

Well, at my house there's a place where the step down from the driveway to the ground on one side is a 2 foot drop or so... I stepped down there one day after it had rained a couple-three days, and my foot slipped, and I wound up with all my weight coming down with my leg bent up under me...

The diagnosis was a sprain, possible slight tear, of the lateral collateral ligament, a pulled or possibly slightly torn quad muscle just above the knee, and a slight pull of the calf muscle right where it attaches behind the knee...

The doctors tried to talk me into taking an MRI to find out for sure if we were looking at a tear, but I told them they'd need to bring about six men along if they planned on getting me into that flippin' tube... I told them I'd limp around on my cane for a week or two, and see if I was still suffering...

Well, at this point the knee isn't near as sore, but more important, it isn't near as STIFF as it was in the day or two after the accident... that was a rough time, when I couldn't sleep for the discomfort, even with the pain meds... but honestly, I do believe I'm on the mend...

Curiously, I think one of the things that kep the injury from being worse was the number of times I hyperextended that left knee during my younger, basketball playing days... I believe that that series of injuries kinda stretched the LCL and ACL ligaments a bit... this rendered them a bit more flexible than most people's ligaments would be...

Thanks for asking, but please don't worry, this too shall pass... and with each passing day, it looks more and more like I'll be able to avoid the knife again...

 

[The30YardSlant]

Anyone whos watched Campbell closely since hes been starting know their witnessing exactly what Steve McNair was when he came into the league.

Wait, wait, wait....



Okay, I'm done.....

 

[silverbear]

Considering that we've been in every game since Campbell started I'd just like to say that i like what ive seen from Campbell. Sure his accuracy isnt his strong suit right now but I would think an offseason training with his WRs will help that.

Surely you're aware that his accuracy problems stem not so much from a lack of familairity with his receivers than it does from a lack of proper techniques... his own coaches admitted as much during the course of the season...

He's had two preseasons with the Skins now (the time when fundamentals are worked on), and presumably the Skins have TRIED to address these flaws before this... so he's had 2 chances now to perfect those fundamentals, but hasn't done so...

Theres no reason we should even be comparing these 2 QBs right now. Romo is in his 4th year in the same system, while Campbell is in his 2nd season with a 2nd offense he just learned.

Ahhh yes, the Skins fan standard ALIBI for Campbell's inconsistent play... too bad it doesn't hold water... you see, prior to this year, Romo had the exact same number of regular season snaps as Campbell did-- zero... and of course, Vince Young had less experience than Jason did, and played somewhat better, didn't he??

Nope, you can grade on a curve if you want to, but the NFL doesn't care about these alibis... and it's quite likely that this will not be the only time in his NFL career that Campbell will have to learn a new offensive system...

It's almost like you're saying he's not so bad, for somebody who's not all that good... LOL...

 

[AdamJT13]

he does have a poor completion rating, but that is because he is getting more shots downfield to throw the ball. ... i think somebody earlier said 30 couple over 20 yards.

Romo threw a higher percentage of his passes more than 20 yards downfield (19.0 percent) than any other quarterback. Campbell's percentage (15.0) ranked eighth among quarterbacks with at least 50 pass attempts.

And "more shots downfield" doesn't explain how Campbell completed only 49.0 percent of his passes thrown between 11 and 20 yards downfield -- which ranked him 23rd in the league.

Romo? He ranked first at 68.8 percent.

There have also been a lot of dropped passes

Only 4.83 percent of Campbell's passes were dropped, which is less than the league average (4.94 percent). Romo's percentage was 5.04, slightly higher than the average.

he does let too many get away from him where he ends up low or high. It's something that can easily be fixed.

Easily fixed, huh? If you know the secret to curing a scatttershot arm, you might want to apply for the Atlanta Falcons' QB coach job, because they could use you.

 

[silverbear]

Haha sorry to hear that man. I'm just glad you dont truly believe that.

Thanks to all of you who expressed some concern about me hurting myself... been a LOOOONG time since I had to dig out my ol' trusty cane to get around, and I'm past sick of it this time...

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Well, at my house there's a place where the step down from the driveway to the ground on one side is a 2 foot drop or so... I stepped down there one day after it had rained a couple-three days, and my foot slipped, and I wound up with all my weight coming down with my leg bent up under me...

The diagnosis was a sprain, possible slight tear, of the lateral collateral ligament, a pulled or possibly slightly torn quad muscle just above the knee, and a slight pull of the calf muscle right where it attaches behind the knee...

The doctors tried to talk me into taking an MRI to find out for sure if we were looking at a tear, but I told them they'd need to bring about six men along if they planned on getting me into that flippin' tube... I told them I'd limp around on my cane for a week or two, and see if I was still suffering...

Well, at this point the knee isn't near as sore, but more important, it isn't near as STIFF as it was in the day or two after the accident... that was a rough time, when I couldn't sleep for the discomfort, even with the pain meds... but honestly, I do believe I'm on the mend...

Curiously, I think one of the things that kep the injury from being worse was the number of times I hyperextended that left knee during my younger, basketball playing days... I believe that that series of injuries kinda stretched the LCL and ACL ligaments a bit... this rendered them a bit more flexible than most people's ligaments would be...

Thanks for asking, but please don't worry, this too shall pass... and with each passing day, it looks more and more like I'll be able to avoid the knife again...

You need to get an MRI!! "Possible slight tear?"

Your voodoo diagnosis of more flexible ligaments due to past hyperextension sounds like just the kind of rationalization that will screw you bigtime.

I mean it. Man up and get in that tube, SB.

At the very least, don't minimize the level of discomfort and convince yourself it is getting better if it isn't.

Is there an antonym for hypochondriac?

Because you are IT.

But it's funny, most folks are one or the other.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Easily fixed, huh? If you know the secret to curing a scatttershot arm, you might want to apply for the Atlanta Falcons' QB coach job, because they could use you.

:laugh1: SilverBear at his best

 

[SkinsFan07]

dang I guess all of these cowboys fans on this message board are right! Jason Campbell will never amount to anything because he sucks because you guys think so!

great, now we can draft Jamarcus Russell who I'm sure will be the next bust if he plays for us because he will be wearing a Skins jersey which automatically makes him a bust, just like Cooley, ST, and Rogers!



I cant some of ya'll. Jason is playing under his 6th offense in 6 years, and this was his first year starting. But hey since he is a skin he sucks.

I bet if Romo was in his 4th offense in 4 years and was struggling, ya'll would make the excuse that he is in his 4th offense in 4 yrs and is still learning. But no leniency for Campbell huh? He just will never be a qb because he only played in 7 career games and is playing under his 6th offense in 6 years.

He did throw 10 tds and only 6 ints and had 1300 yards though.

But hey rookie can throw more tds than ints right? WRONG

Leinart threw for more td's than ints in this year right? No, he had 16 tds and 16 ints.

But wait didnt the offensive rookie throw for more tds than ints? NO Vince Young had 12 tds and 13 ints only 2 more tds than Campbell did, and he started almost the whole season!

So why are you screwing with us saying that Campbell wont be any good?
He could have been a candidate for OROY had he started the whole year as well. He was on pace for over 2300 yards and 20 tds.

Please I read the stats but those mistakes are expected from a "rookie" qb. Give credit when credit is due. And it is due at least a little bit. I mean who knows how good we would have been if our defense didnt suck so bad ad lose our games for us? We could be in the playoffs maybe b/c he kept us in every game and put us in position to win each time. Our defense couldn't hold up and preserve them though (hence us being 31st in the NFL in total defense).

But he's a Skin. Oh well.

Thanks for clearing everything up for me guys.

I'm gonna throw up now.

 

[MarkBrunell]

Romo posted an amazing rating of 77 in December. With 6 TD to 8 INT and 9 fumbles. A high completion percentage backed with turnovers at its best.

Campbell on the other hand might not have the best completion percentage, but he know how to take care of the ball and still make sufficient plays that would have got us wins had our defense not been ranked #31 and been one of the worst in NFL History. And this is all considering that Campbell is playing in an offense much more complicated than Romos.

And don't give me Romos defense sucks and running. The Commanders 2006 defense is one of the worst NFL defenses EVER. Romo has Julius Jones and Marion Barber where as Jason Campbell only had Ladell Betts unless your saying our 2nd string RB is better than your 1rst and 2nd stringer...

did I mention that Romo in his 2nd NFL season was riding the #3 pine behind 50 year old Vinny Testaverde and NFL Europe Drew Henson in a losing season?

 

[smarta5150]

Romo posted an amazing rating of 77 in December. With 6 TD to 8 INT and 9 fumbles. A high completion percentage backed with turnovers at its best.

Campbell on the other hand might not have the best completion percentage, but he know how to take care of the ball and still make sufficient plays that would have got us wins had our defense not been ranked #31 and been one of the worst in NFL History. And this is all considering that Campbell is playing in an offense much more complicated than Romos.

And don't give me Romos defense sucks and running. The Commanders 2006 defense is one of the worst NFL defenses EVER. Romo has Julius Jones and Marion Barber where as Jason Campbell only had Ladell Betts unless your saying our 2nd string RB is better than your 1rst and 2nd stringer...

did I mention that Romo in his 2nd NFL season was riding the #3 pine behind 50 year old Vinny Testaverde and NFL Europe Drew Henson in a losing season?

Have fun watching the playoffs Campbell.

 

[SkinsFan07]

Romo posted an amazing rating of 77 in December. With 6 TD to 8 INT and 9 fumbles. A high completion percentage backed with turnovers at its best.

Campbell on the other hand might not have the best completion percentage, but he know how to take care of the ball and still make sufficient plays that would have got us wins had our defense not been ranked #31 and been one of the worst in NFL History. And this is all considering that Campbell is playing in an offense much more complicated than Romos.

And don't give me Romos defense sucks and running. The Commanders 2006 defense is one of the worst NFL defenses EVER. Romo has Julius Jones and Marion Barber where as Jason Campbell only had Ladell Betts unless your saying our 2nd string RB is better than your 1rst and 2nd stringer...

did I mention that Romo in his 2nd NFL season was riding the #3 pine behind 50 year old Vinny Testaverde and NFL Europe Drew Henson in a losing season?

Yup. He was riding the pine and was almost released but Parcells said he saw something in him in camp/practice/whatever he did.

So let's recap:

1.)Cowboys fans are bashing our qb who is STARTING in his 2nd season WHILE LEARNING his 6th offense in 6 years.

2.)Our defense was one of the worst in NFL history yet they bring up the fact that our defense helped Campbell out.

3.)Finally, they say that our RB and o-line did very good and thats what made Campbell look good. Am I missing something or did Marion Barber lead the NFC in TD's? Yah he did, so don't give us that running game garbage, yours was just as strong. And your defense was better by a mile than ours so don't give us that either.

So until Jason Campbell is in his fourth year how about you lay off of the kid until then. Because if Romo actually played in his 2nd year, I can assure you, he would have played nowhere near as good as he is now.

K Thanx.

 

[MarkBrunell]

Have fun watching the playoffs Campbell.

Definetly will. I know you guys must be excited. Not winning a playoff game in the past 11 years must be stinging,

 

[The30YardSlant]

Romo posted an amazing rating of 77 in December. With 6 TD to 8 INT and 9 fumbles. A high completion percentage backed with turnovers at its best.

Campbell on the other hand might not have the best completion percentage, but he know how to take care of the ball and still make sufficient plays that would have got us wins had our defense not been ranked #31 and been one of the worst in NFL History. And this is all considering that Campbell is playing in an offense much more complicated than Romos.

And don't give me Romos defense sucks and running. The Commanders 2006 defense is one of the worst NFL defenses EVER. Romo has Julius Jones and Marion Barber where as Jason Campbell only had Ladell Betts unless your saying our 2nd string RB is better than your 1rst and 2nd stringer...

did I mention that Romo in his 2nd NFL season was riding the #3 pine behind 50 year old Vinny Testaverde and NFL Europe Drew Henson in a losing season?

All you have to do is watch the games. Romo has "it". Campbell doesnt. It's easy to see, just not easy to admit.

Jason Campbell is Quincy Carter v2.0