CFZ Can this dysfunctional ownership return to glory without an Elite QB?

[john van brocklin]

First of all this isn’t a Dak bashing thread . I think most fans believe Dak is enough to build around if we had a normal organization.

Many fans want the Cowboys to go All In. And I’m just not sure these Bozo’s are willing to risk their relativity and interest that mediocrity provides them to hype and sell . It’s a comfort zone for them being a playoff contender which keeps the registers ringing.

What I’m proposing is given if everything else stays the same I think the one piece that could elevate or take us to the next level is an Elite QB.

These fools have proven they can build a playoff caliber team around the likes of over achievers like Prescott and Romo but what if we had a Mahomes, Burrows type QB. Could that be enough to take us to the next level. I’d sure like to find out.

I understand there’s only a handful of these type of QB’s in the league . But how far are those teams going without those types of QB’s?

It takes too much of well oiled machine in the front office and coaching to build a Super Bowl contender without one of these type QB’s IMO.

I understand this isn’t something we can do under current contracts but I think ultimately if we truly want this frikin front office to have more of an opportunity to flourish this is the one entity or asset that might be enough to knock the door down. I’d sure like to try at some point.

This team ain't sniffing post season success with this GM.
PERIOD

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

I don't think they necessarily need an "elite QB", they just need a QB that stops throwing the ball to the other team.

 

[Diehardblues]

This is a GREAT question!!

The better question should be...........................What are the chances that the Jones clowns are able to draft an elite QB in our life time? I say the chances are barely above 10%.

Now even if they did get lucky and were able to draft one, would they have the right coaching and be able to surround him with a championship roster? I think those chances are just as slim.

No doubt but it seems like it’d have to help. Maybe at least get us to a championship game. Like Mahomey he’s only won 1 ring so far but 5 straight champ games and 3 SB appearances. Rodgers only went to 1 SB but 5 champ games.

I can’t help but think a QB of that caliber given everything else is the same is our best shot with these clowns. Especially when we see how far they have gone with Romo and Dak who while pretty good IMO aren’t to that level. No?

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Only if the NFL is rigged ala WWE and they give Jerry one more SB before he travels to the man in the sky......

 

[Diehardblues]

This team ain't sniffing post season success with this GM.
PERIOD

But look how close we’ve come with these fools and the lack of all of the other contributing factors and culture they create.

The fact they’ve come this close without championship caliber rosters and over achieving less than Elite QB‘s, I believe supports that a HOFamer caliber might could at least knock Divisional round door down.

No guarantee of course but would like to see.

 

[DallasEast]

1. It would be necessary for the front office to decommit from its current quarterback covenant, which would be an atypical management move for Jerry Jones. Note: Quincy Carter does not count since the idiot forced his own expulsion.

2. The front office would be required to divorce itself entirely from the scouting evaluation, in order to identify optimal candidates based upon on 'elite quarterback' tangibles and intangibles, that Jones and Stephen Jones are not qualified in determining. The selection pool should be determined solely and mutually by Will McClay, Mike McCarthy and scouting personnel. This 'independent committee' would rank candidates by projected potential for presentation to the front office.

3. The front office must devote all conceivable drafting resources in securing each candidate in the selection order recommended by the committee. Every plausible draft scenario should be considered mandatory: surrendering future draft picks, zero restrictions placed upon moving up to a targeted draft slot via trades, player packages, or combos. In other words, Jones should sweeten any move up the board to the degree that any trading partner cannot resist accepting the deal.

The team would give itself a chance of drafting an elite quarterback abiding by all three steps. However, the front office is what it is. I severely doubt it can accomplish the first step, much less all three.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Nope and its why I wanted Dak gone for the last 6 years

They finally have a defense good enough but the QB play is holding this team back

 

[Ken]

Yes they can but will they?

I don't know.

There is a path to put more around Dak and put this team over the top. Will they do it though? No clue.

They finally made a positive move in letting McCarthy put his offense in and call the plays. This should have happened in year one.

We may already have the bowl this year if they had done that initially.

 

[DickWhitman]

Nope

 

[kskboys]

Highly unlikely.

Jerry is in charge, and he is not a football mind. That's why we keep wasting draft picks on Kelvin Joseph, Jaylon Smith, Escobar, Trysten Hill, Chaz, and others. Those guys should be playing major roles on our team. That many misses is why we can't stop the run/advance in the playoffs.

 

[Shane612]

With a top 3 defense.

 

[CATCH17]

It’s almost impossible to win a championship with a QB like Dak getting paid like he is.

This isn’t just a Cowboy problem but it’s was an easy problem to identify that is league wide.

All Dallas had to do was break the trend of overpaying mediocre QBs. They didn’t and now we’re stuck in mediocrity until his contract is gone.

 

[eromeopolk]

First of all this isn’t a Dak bashing thread . I think most fans believe Dak is enough to build around if we had a normal organization.

Many fans want the Cowboys to go All In. And I’m just not sure these Bozo’s are willing to risk their relativity and interest that mediocrity provides them to hype and sell . It’s a comfort zone for them being a playoff contender which keeps the registers ringing.

What I’m proposing is given if everything else stays the same I think the one piece that could elevate or take us to the next level is an Elite QB.

These fools have proven they can build a playoff caliber team around the likes of over achievers like Prescott and Romo but what if we had a Mahomes, Burrows type QB. Could that be enough to take us to the next level. I’d sure like to find out.

I understand there’s only a handful of these type of QB’s in the league . But how far are those teams going without those types of QB’s?

It takes too much of well oiled machine in the front office and coaching to build a Super Bowl contender without one of these type QB’s IMO.

I understand this isn’t something we can do under current contracts but I think ultimately if we truly want this frikin front office to have more of an opportunity to flourish this is the one entity or asset that might be enough to knock the door down. I’d sure like to try at some point.

Jerry Dumbo GM Jones had Troy Aikman and in 2 years (starting 1994 without Jimmy Johnson) destroyed his QB's team and dynasty.

So nobody saves this team except a new GM not related to Pat Jones.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Can this dysfunctional ownership return to glory without an Elite QB?​

No team can win a super bowl without a franchise QB.

 

[vlad]

I doubt prime Brady would win here

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

First of all this isn’t a Dak bashing thread . I think most fans believe Dak is enough to build around if we had a normal organization.

Many fans want the Cowboys to go All In. And I’m just not sure these Bozo’s are willing to risk their relativity and interest that mediocrity provides them to hype and sell . It’s a comfort zone for them being a playoff contender which keeps the registers ringing.

What I’m proposing is given if everything else stays the same I think the one piece that could elevate or take us to the next level is an Elite QB.

These fools have proven they can build a playoff caliber team around the likes of over achievers like Prescott and Romo but what if we had a Mahomes, Burrows type QB. Could that be enough to take us to the next level. I’d sure like to find out.

I understand there’s only a handful of these type of QB’s in the league . But how far are those teams going without those types of QB’s?

It takes too much of well oiled machine in the front office and coaching to build a Super Bowl contender without one of these type QB’s IMO.

I understand this isn’t something we can do under current contracts but I think ultimately if we truly want this frikin front office to have more of an opportunity to flourish this is the one entity or asset that might be enough to knock the door down. I’d sure like to try at some point.

this dysfunctional ownership, GM will not reach anything even with an Elite QB. they will find ways to waste his career too.

 

[FVSTONE]

First of all this isn’t a Dak bashing thread . I think most fans believe Dak is enough to build around if we had a normal organization.

Many fans want the Cowboys to go All In. And I’m just not sure these Bozo’s are willing to risk their relativity and interest that mediocrity provides them to hype and sell . It’s a comfort zone for them being a playoff contender which keeps the registers ringing.

What I’m proposing is given if everything else stays the same I think the one piece that could elevate or take us to the next level is an Elite QB.

These fools have proven they can build a playoff caliber team around the likes of over achievers like Prescott and Romo but what if we had a Mahomes, Burrows type QB. Could that be enough to take us to the next level. I’d sure like to find out.

I understand there’s only a handful of these type of QB’s in the league . But how far are those teams going without those types of QB’s?

It takes too much of well oiled machine in the front office and coaching to build a Super Bowl contender without one of these type QB’s IMO.

I understand this isn’t something we can do under current contracts but I think ultimately if we truly want this frikin front office to have more of an opportunity to flourish this is the one entity or asset that might be enough to knock the door down. I’d sure like to try at some point.

Never going to happen...........NEVER!!!!!!!!!!

 

[calico]

The franchise has issues with foundation rot all the way to the top. It spills over to the product on the field. They can replace as many coaches and players as they want. If they don’t fix the foundation rot, none of it matters.

Almost 30 years and counting.

 

[khiladi]

If we had Herbert against the 49ers with this defense and even no Pollard and the time Dak was afforded to scan the field, we literally dropping 40 on these dudes.

And Romo only had a roster “like this” in 2014 and that defense was pretty mediocre, didn’t even have its best player as Sean Lee was out the whole year, and was not a TO generating machine like it is now.

Romo against the 49ers is dropping 30-40.

We lost, like Jerry said after the game when he wasn’t trying to sell next season like he is now, because of garbage QB play.

This Dak “Garrett QB training project” was all based on year 1, when he was a bus driver. Jerry and the FO thought that with the talent surrounding him, they could win without an expensive contract. That flopped badly and they then had to end up paying a mediocre QB, elite money anyways. And since they are stuck, they got to ride with it, while knowing deep down this QB is average.

Fact is we were 4-1 with Cooper Rush who can’t toss a ball consistently over 5 yards, so I don’t want to here any smoke that this team couldn’t win if it weren’t for a good QB.

If Cooper Rush had the arm strength of Dak, keeping mechanics and everything else the same, we winning that game.

 

[dsturgeon]

The cowboys had a superbowl winning caliber team this year, and they might have had one last year. They are losers.

Losers and fans of losers look for holes in the team like, players, coaches, or strategy.

There is always something that can be upgraded, but it was a very well built team this year. If they played well on defense, offense, and special teams they could have beat anyone in the league.

It ended with them being losers.