Can Tyson Thompson beat out Julius Jones?

[dargonking999]

There are a lot of fast guys that look good in camp.
Randal Williams, anyone?

isnt he still looking for a job?

 

[Kilyin]

signed with Raiders

 

[2233boys]

I know it’s still early in TC and he (Thompson) still has to make the team but from every report and eyewitness observations it seems as though he can not only compete at this level but also excel.

I'm sure most would agree that unlike other skill positions, running back isn't a position that you "groom" someone for, either you have it or don't. Historically the leagues best RB's, Payton, Dickerson, Brown, Smith, and Sanders where good to go from the beginning.

Would anyone be surprised if Tyson Thompson was the starting RB for the Cowboys in '05?

Yeah he does well against the third team he is starting quality.. :bang2:

 

[2233boys]

Let's just say that I am pretty familiar with the San Jose St Campus

And to add to what you so eloquently stated, if T. Thompson is every bit the athlete and RB as J. Jones, and most importantly, if he can handle his responsibilities in the passing game (routes and pass protection) then why not?

He has vs the third team in practice, and if I am not misaken I saw some things about him fumbeling a lot...

I think that more than anything this thread reflects how spoiled Cowboy fans have been with the RB position.

Well with the likes of Thomas, Hill, Dorsett, Walker and Smith in you past and all pretty much right after the other, it is hard not to be spoiled

So now that the "torch" has been passed to JJ he can do no wrong and for most it seems that there isn't a chance in hell that he can be supplanted by an undrafted rookie FA who only played one year of D1 ball.

I don't think that is it, ceretainly isn't in my case

And if he (T.T.) were to do just that then it means that J.J. wasn't that good to begin with?

He will be lucky to make the team. Jones and Merritt are on the team, he has to beat out Thomas, (not going to happen) his only other shot would be to beat out Bickerstaff, and if he can't play fullback too, I don't see that happening..

Could it be that the Cowboys have two very talented RB's?

Right now I would say they were THomas and Jones, haven't seen the others play against NFL talant

I'm as big of a J. Jones fan as anyone but maybe; just maybe the Cowboys have finally found a diamond in the rough. Maybe not...but I thought that it was worthy enough to discuss.

Yeah Reshard Leed was a hell of a training camp back...

 

[SALADIN]

He has vs the third team in practice, and if I am not misaken I saw some things about him fumbeling a lot...

Well with the likes of Thomas, Hill, Dorsett, Walker and Smith in you past and all pretty much right after the other, it is hard not to be spoiled

I don't think that is it, ceretainly isn't in my case

He will be lucky to make the team. Jones and Merritt are on the team, he has to beat out Thomas, (not going to happen) his only other shot would be to beat out Bickerstaff, and if he can't play fullback too, I don't see that happening..

Right now I would say they were THomas and Jones, haven't seen the others play against NFL talant

Yeah Reshard Leed was a hell of a training camp back...

Good post 223, I hope that you'll post more on this forum.

 

[ternce]

You asked a question and got blasted because of it. Your asking a silly question is okay, but getting blasted for it is not? Freedom of speech is freedom of speech.

What did you expect? Praise for your "out of the box" thinking? Please.

people here dont seem to think out of the box much so it procurred the like responses

it is easier to conform to the mass and do not even bring up another rb threat, actually just dont bring up anotjer rb period it will be miscontrued as a threat to julius

julius cannot be stopped and bledsoe will finally prove why he was the number 1 pick and not Brady

 

[JDSmith]

people here dont seem to think out of the box much so it procurred the like responses

it is easier to conform to the mass and do not even bring up another rb threat, actually just dont bring up anotjer rb period it will be miscontrued as a threat to julius

julius cannot be stopped and bledsoe will finally prove why he was the number 1 pick and not Brady

There is a reason most people don't think out of the box - and that's because things that are out of the box are likely to fail. That's WHY they are out of the box. Sure, they'll pan out sometimes, but probably 90% of the time out of the box thinking leads to going right back into the box after a failed experiment. Now suggesting that this guy who was drafted in the... when was he drafted? Oh, that's right, he went undrafted and we signed him as an undrafted free agent. So suggesting that this undrafted free agent out of might San Jose St will beat out Julius is likely to get a negative reaction. It's out of the box thinking because:

We've seen Julius run for an average of 114 yards per game over the final 7 games of the NFL season.

Tyson Thompson wasn't thought of highly enough to be drafted.

Tyson Thompson has NEVER played an NFL down, and has practiced against third and fourth stringers.

Now maybe everyone was wrong about TT, including the Cowboys (who drafted another RB this year, while letting TT sit until after the draft was over). Maybe he's going to pass MB3, AT and JJ on the depth chart. But it's safe to say that it's a very long shot for that to happen. And if TT is anything like most undrafter free agents he's probably going to have a tough time making the team at all.

Now I'm sure when you think about it like that it's not unreasonable for people to react the way they did.

 

[Hostile]

There is a reason most people don't think out of the box - and that's because things that are out of the box are likely to fail. That's WHY they are out of the box. Sure, they'll pan out sometimes, but probably 90% of the time out of the box thinking leads to going right back into the box after a failed experiment. Now suggesting that this guy who was drafted in the... when was he drafted? Oh, that's right, he went undrafted and we signed him as an undrafted free agent. So suggesting that this undrafted free agent out of might San Jose St will beat out Julius is likely to get a negative reaction. It's out of the box thinking because:

We've seen Julius run for an average of 114 yards per game over the final 7 games of the NFL season.

Tyson Thompson wasn't thought of highly enough to be drafted.

Tyson Thompson has NEVER played an NFL down, and has practiced against third and fourth stringers.

Now maybe everyone was wrong about TT, including the Cowboys (who drafted another RB this year, while letting TT sit until after the draft was over). Maybe he's going to pass MB3, AT and JJ on the depth chart. But it's safe to say that it's a very long shot for that to happen. And if TT is anything like most undrafter free agents he's probably going to have a tough time making the team at all.

Now I'm sure when you think about it like that it's not unreasonable for people to react the way they did.

Meanwhile, while out of the box the player is not focused totally on duties inside the box and therefore less effective at times because he is not fully prepared.

 

[ANTHONYSCOTT]

I know it’s still early in TC and he (Thompson) still has to make the team but from every report and eyewitness observations it seems as though he can not only compete at this level but also excel.

I'm sure most would agree that unlike other skill positions, running back isn't a position that you "groom" someone for, either you have it or don't. Historically the leagues best RB's, Payton, Dickerson, Brown, Smith, and Sanders where good to go from the beginning.

Would anyone be surprised if Tyson Thompson was the starting RB for the Cowboys in '05?

Come on KID. How bout this statement, "STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES"!

 

[K-Mart]

Step away from the bong slowly.

COULDN'T OF SAID IT BETTER MYSELF.:bounce:

 

[dstew60105]

The saying goes "There are no stupid questions". This is a stupid question.

We should delete this thread just based on the question.

 

[Chuck 54]

Undrafted FA's do occasionally make it as starters in the league, sometimes even make it as serious players, but the odds are always stacked hugely against it happening. There's a reason the NFL puts so much money into scouting and evaluating and drafting players.

I would be thrilled if Thompson became a huge contributor...I would be thrilled if he was better than JJ and could replace him...always looking for someone even better, but the odds of it happening are even bigger than the odds against a QB like Henson or Romo ever playing up to HOF QB's like Aikman.

It's more likely for a high draft choice to be a bust than for an undrafted FA to become a super star.

 

[SALADIN]

I was looking for opinions from the ones I was looking for (the respected members of this forum)...you guys know who you are.

Thank you!

It should feel good for Cowboy fans to finaly have a "problem" like this.

 

[SALADIN]

Come on KID. How bout this statement, "STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES"!

Let me guess...long time, first time.

Welcome to the forum young man

 

[JDSmith]

I was looking for opinions from the ones I was looking for (the respected members of this forum)...you guys know who you are.

Thank you!

It should feel good for Cowboy fans to finaly have a "problem" like this.

I'm sure a lot of people believe that they are respected members of the community. If you want answers from specific people why not just ask them in pm or name them in the post? Others will still answer, but you'll be more likely to get the response you are looking for. Relying on others to guess as to whom this thread is directed to seems pointless.

 

[ternce]

There is a reason most people don't think out of the box - and that's because things that are out of the box are likely to fail. That's WHY they are out of the box. Sure, they'll pan out sometimes, but probably 90% of the time out of the box thinking leads to going right back into the box after a failed experiment. Now suggesting that this guy who was drafted in the... when was he drafted? Oh, that's right, he went undrafted and we signed him as an undrafted free agent. So suggesting that this undrafted free agent out of might San Jose St will beat out Julius is likely to get a negative reaction. It's out of the box thinking because:

We've seen Julius run for an average of 114 yards per game over the final 7 games of the NFL season.

Tyson Thompson wasn't thought of highly enough to be drafted.

Tyson Thompson has NEVER played an NFL down, and has practiced against third and fourth stringers.

Now maybe everyone was wrong about TT, including the Cowboys (who drafted another RB this year, while letting TT sit until after the draft was over). Maybe he's going to pass MB3, AT and JJ on the depth chart. But it's safe to say that it's a very long shot for that to happen. And if TT is anything like most undrafter free agents he's probably going to have a tough time making the team at all.

Now I'm sure when you think about it like that it's not unreasonable for people to react the way they did.

good post, hard not to agree with that. It is just that a lot of people speak as if the other 10 percent did not exist and it is a certainty. I remember when a lot of people thought it was a foregone conclusion that st louis, at that time "the greatest show on turf," would defeat NE, including myself, and some even precluded the 17-point spread was also a certainty. :bang2:

I think the really smart people would at least account for the other 10 percent you speak. Especially when reports from camp seems to give some indications of extreme potential on TT's part. Randal Williams never got those kinds of excitement out of camp it was just his speed that was mentioned here and there.

 

[scottsp]

Weirder things have happened. But to beat Julius out? No. Not this go-round.

A slew of injuries to the running back core would be the only thing that could put Tyson in such a position. And even then, I don't know that the club wouldn't bring someone else in to compete for the job. In fact, I think they would.

 

[BadKarma]

I think LTN made a great point - Thompson's playing time will prevent him from getting the exposure he needs. With JJ, A-Train and Barber III sharing the carries, it would be difficult to really showcase his talent.

A possible scenario, though unlikely would be they move A-Train to FB and MB either is injured or is outplayed.

I see Thompson who has a combination of size, rare RB speed and moves as a change-of-pace back who can break one open at any time.

He'll probably contribute immediately as a PR or KR at this time. If they put him on the practice squad, someone is surely going to find out about his potentials and pick him up.

 

[jobberone]

TT will get his chance to make the team. And you're right. I doubt someone with his size and speed would make it to the PS.

 

[dargonking999]

I think LTN made a great point - Thompson's playing time will prevent him from getting the exposure he needs. With JJ, A-Train and Barber III sharing the carries, it would be difficult to really showcase his talent.

A possible scenario, though unlikely would be they move A-Train to FB and MB either is injured or is outplayed.

I see Thompson who has a combination of size, rare RB speed and moves as a change-of-pace back who can break one open at any time.

He'll probably contribute immediately as a PR or KR at this time. If they put him on the practice squad, someone is surely going to find out about his potentials and pick him up.

I agree about him being a PR/KR

This guy has not shown me he has vision, nor the abilty to toat the ball for 1 2 and 3 yard gains, and keep coming for more, this guy has not shown me that he can take a pop and come back out for more, he hasnt shown me that he can effictvly pick up bliztes and stop LB before the destroy our statue, he has yet to show me that he can catch out of the backfield.

This guy has great speed, and acceleration, he's better as a PR/KR were everything is in front of him and all he has to do is follow his blocks and run really really fast