Can we discuss DeMarco

[TwoDeep3]

The difference in burst and yards left on the field between him and Randle is ridiculous. Murray has had a great year but I truly believe Randle or Williams could have done just as well if not better. I truly believe that Murrays ability to pick up the blitz is why he is the incumbant not his ability to hit wide open holes.

Neither of those scatbacks could wear down a defense. They would suffer the arm tackles as they went into the line.

Did you not see his touchdown yesterday when he used both patience and making the right move away from the defenders in traffic and scoring?

Murray moves the pile forward. Randall hit a hole where he had to beat one guy and run to the endzone because they didn't have as safety.

I sometimes wonder what some of you are seeing.

 

[LatinMind]

First off congratulations on a fabulous year! To set the records he did for a franchise as rich in running backs as the cowboys is quite a feat.
Now this: I can't be the only one that noticed how sluggish he looked when he broke in the open field yesterday.
Tired legs? Toll of all the touches from this yr?
Anything left in the tank for the playoffs?

Dallas is milking that cow for everything they can right now. Im convinced Randle will be starting in 2015. And thats the smart move. Except a RB to be taken in this draft

 

[Eddie]

Dallas is milking that cow for everything they can right now. Im convinced Randle will be starting in 2015. And thats the smart move. Except a RB to be taken in this draft

I believe we will be drafting a RB on the 2nd and/or 3rd day of the draft. Randle will not be starting.

 

[btcutter]

Neither of those scatbacks could wear down a defense. They would suffer the arm tackles as they went into the line.

Did you not see his touchdown yesterday when he used both patience and making the right move away from the defenders in traffic and scoring?

Murray moves the pile forward. Randall hit a hole where he had to beat one guy and run to the endzone because they didn't have as safety.

I sometimes wonder what some of you are seeing.

This is why I would have love to see a REAL two back system this year. Mixing Murray and Randle like Thunder and Lightning. If we could sign him to some reasonable contract would be great. But I do drool about AP behind this line.

 

[joseephuss]

We are much more dangerous when Randall and Dunbar are in the backfield for hitting that hole and going all the way on one play. Murray looks sluggish on long runs.

But football isn't about one play. It is about many plays. Joseph and Lance combined can't give the team 28 touches a game for a full season.

 

[Jenky]

Dallas is milking that cow for everything they can right now. Im convinced Randle will be starting in 2015. And thats the smart move. Except a RB to be taken in this draft

I like Randle too, but the only thing we know now is that Murray CAN carry the load against a stacked box. When Randle comes in, he's usually fresh. How do you know Randle can do what Murray does while carrying the ball 25+ times a game? Against a stacked box?

 

[LatinMind]

I like Randle too, but the only thing we know now is that Murray CAN carry the load against a stacked box. When Randle comes in, he's usually fresh. How do you know Randle can do what Murray does while carrying the ball 25+ times a game? Against a stacked box?

How did you know Murray could stay healthy until he did it? Youre never going to know about Randle until you give him the ball right?

 

[TwoDeep3]

This is why I would have love to see a REAL two back system this year. Mixing Murray and Randle like Thunder and Lightning. If we could sign him to some reasonable contract would be great. But I do drool about AP behind this line.

I would love to see a two back set at times with both in the backfield. Maybe a T formation, sending the speedy Randall in motion across the formation and into the flat behind the slot. The idea of the play action off that, or a lead draw would be fantastic.

My phone doesn't ring with the team looking for offensive advice, however.

 

[joseephuss]

How did you know Murray could stay healthy until he did it? Youre never going to know about Randle until you give him the ball right?

Joseph Randle doesn't look like he is built to carry the ball 20 times a game. I don't know that for certain, but based on appearances he doesn't have that body type and build that I would prefer a back to have to be used in that manner.

 

[Dale]

Neither of those scatbacks could wear down a defense. They would suffer the arm tackles as they went into the line.

Did you not see his touchdown yesterday when he used both patience and making the right move away from the defenders in traffic and scoring?

Murray moves the pile forward. Randle hit a hole where he had to beat one guy and run to the endzone because they didn't have as safety.

I sometimes wonder what some of you are seeing.

Spot on, my friend. Perhaps Randle can develop into an every-down back, but there are few players in the league that can sustain the touches Murray has received all while wearing down a defense the way he does.

It's like pretending Sherman Williams could do Emmitt's job because of a late TD and a 7 yard average on 3 carries in some rout.

Lastly, it's awfully easy being the backup running back to an Emmitt or a DeMarco after they already carried the rock 20 times.

 

[LatinMind]

Joseph Randle doesn't look like he is built to carry the ball 20 times a game. I don't know that for certain, but based on appearances he doesn't have that body type and build that I would prefer a back to have to be used in that manner.

joseph randle 210lbs
jamaal charles 199lbs

 

[joseephuss]

If Randle is the starter next season Dallas won't be running the same exact type of system they are running this year. They will have to go to more of a running back by committee system.

 

[dfan32]

anyone else think Murray was robbed from a long TD run as he fell on top of the skins defender never touching the ground and was headed for the endzone but refs blew the play dead?

It was obvious on replay he wasn't down. And he did practically walk to the endzone after but if whistles had not blown the play dead, I'm not sure he'd have waltzed his way that far down the field. He was definately robbed of more yardage though.

 

[LatinMind]

My dream scenario would be to have Randle and draft gurley in round 2

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Neither of those scatbacks could wear down a defense. They would suffer the arm tackles as they went into the line.

Did you not see his touchdown yesterday when he used both patience and making the right move away from the defenders in traffic and scoring?

Murray moves the pile forward. Randall hit a hole where he had to beat one guy and run to the endzone because they didn't have as safety.

I sometimes wonder what some of you are seeing.

Here we sit with the horse we rode all season, with the best shot we have had in many years. And fans want to talk about how unimportant that horse is. We have no clue what the other two can do because we didn't even try. I'll stick with Murray.

 

[joseephuss]

joseph randle 210lbs
jamaal charles 199lbs

Charles has never started 16 games in a single season and his highest single season total is 285 rushing attempts. Like I said that is not 20 times a game. And Randle is no Charles in terms of pure speed.

 

[LatinMind]

Charles has never started 16 games in a single season and his highest single season total is 285 rushing attempts. Like I said that is not 20 times a game. And Randle is no Charles in terms of pure speed.

Charles is a top 5 back in the nfl. Who are you trying to kid? Or are you trying to convince yourself that Randle shouldnt be given the chance?

 

[LatinMind]

Charles has never started 16 games in a single season and his highest single season total is 285 rushing attempts. Like I said that is not 20 times a game. And Randle is no Charles in terms of pure speed.

By the way charles has a career average of 5.5 yrds a carry which is insane.And Charles has started 16 games 2 times in his career, and 15 games 3 times. And I wouldnt want Randle to carry the ball over 300 times in a season. Thats why they go out and sign or draft a bigger back to compliment.

 

[joseephuss]

Charles is a top 5 back in the nfl. Who are you trying to kid? Or are you trying to convince yourself that Randle shouldnt be given the chance?

When did I say Charles wasn't any good? Charles is a top 5 back who can't carry the ball 20 times a game. Randle is no Charles. I'm already convinced Randle can't carry the ball 20 times a game and that he isn't of the same caliber of Charles. I like Randle in the role of back up running back. He is very good in that role.

 

[joseephuss]

By the way charles has a career average of 5.5 yrds a carry which is insane.And Charles has started 16 games 2 times in his career, and 15 games 3 times. And I wouldnt want Randle to carry the ball over 300 times in a season. Thats why they go out and sign or draft a bigger back to compliment.

Nope Charles has never started 16 games in a season.

Okay, you don't want Randle to carry the ball over 300 times in a season. Then why did you respond with the Charles size comparison when I brought up that Randle is not built to carry it 20 times a game? Seems like a pointless comparison to me.