Can we stop bringing up Cooper

Stash

Staff member
Messages
78,810
Reaction score
103,500
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
People can stick their own head in the sand and pretend things didn’t happen if they need to. Maybe it helps them cope.

But that willful ignorance doesn’t work for the rest of us.
 

Rodney308

Well-Known Member
Messages
314
Reaction score
577
They can't as they are drawing desperately at straws now for excuses.
And it's only gonna get worst for the few remaining Dak lovers as with a 49 million hit coming next season we will not pick up any Fa in Coops Caliber range and will lose more talent as yes the NFL is a hard cap league!
An extension is simply out of the question even for the Jones boys!!!!!
I bet whatever you wanna put it, Dak gets a new deal this year.
 

Miller

ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN AS TEXASFROG
Messages
12,261
Reaction score
13,815
The older you are as a Cowboys fan, it seems the more bitter...
I wouldn’t call it bitter. It’s just weird. I’m about to turn 53 so born 1970. If you think about it I started my fandom in the middle of Super Bowl runs that, with the exception of the late 80s, lasted a couple of decades. Heck they had a 20 yr winning streak 66-86. So now it’s the opposite and you see younger fans talk about next year and we are so close. I cried a lot of real tears in the 70s and 80s because it was SB or bust. I just think there is a frustration now that 27 yrs is ok with folks. JMO
 
Last edited:

Reality

Staff member
Messages
31,171
Reaction score
72,340
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
I really wish fans would get over the Cowboys getting rid of Amari Cooper.

Amari was a good receiver when he showed up, but you never knew which games he was going to show up.

Amari Cooper had 78 catches for 1,120 yards this season for the Browns.

I am sorry but a 1,120 yards receiver is NOT worth $20 million dollars, which is what Amari would have cost if the Cowboys kept him.

Teams have salary caps to deal with and sometimes you have to let good players go not because they are bad but because they are simply not worth the cost it would take to keep them.
 

Rodney308

Well-Known Member
Messages
314
Reaction score
577
Not to mention, Amari always disappeared in away games.. and we were on the road. So, yeah, he would have been a non-factor, more than likely.
The stats do not bear out that Copper "always" disappeared in away games. Here's three facts: at the Eagles, 79 yards, at the Vikings, 122 yards; at the Buccaneers, 139 yards. I would suggest the "myth" that Cooper disappeared is due to him being open, but Dak not getting the ball to him. See the game against the 49ers were Hilton was open numerous times, and Dak failed to get the ball to him.
 

Pantone282C

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,879
Reaction score
14,866
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Not to mention, Amari always disappeared in away games.. and we were on the road. So, yeah, he would have been a non-factor, more than likely.
Likely as not. While I do not miss him, Dallas screwed the pooch on the return value when they let him go. Shoulda paid CWill.
And, there was trouble brewing that was kept in the locker room until Cooper publicly threw the QB under the bus. Some things are best kept in house, deserved or not.
His disappearing act was on him.
 

Stash

Staff member
Messages
78,810
Reaction score
103,500
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
I really wish fans would get over the Cowboys getting rid of Amari Cooper.

Amari was a good receiver when he showed up, but you never knew which games he was going to show up.

Amari Cooper had 78 catches for 1,120 yards this season for the Browns.

I am sorry but a 1,120 yards receiver is NOT worth $20 million dollars, which is what Amari would have cost if the Cowboys kept him.

Teams have salary caps to deal with and sometimes you have to let good players go not because they are bad but because they are simply not worth the cost it would take to keep them.
Who was throwing the ball to Amari Cooper?
 

Coogiguy03

Well-Known Member
Messages
25,901
Reaction score
21,799
CowboysZone LOYAL Fan
Not to mention, Amari always disappeared in away games.. and we were on the road. So, yeah, he would have been a non-factor, more than likely.


PLEASE DON'T DO THIS, I TRIED NOT TO LOL, it's the truth!!!
 

Reality

Staff member
Messages
31,171
Reaction score
72,340
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Who was throwing the ball to Amari Cooper?
Jacoby Brissett who had a 64% completion percentage and Deshawn Watson for 6 games.

Cooper's season had nothing to do with their quarterback play as it was fine.

These are Cooper's game stats ..

Code:
Game  1 = 51 yards
Game  2 = 105 yards
Game  3 = 72 yards
Game  4 = 58 yards
Game  5 = 42 yards
Game  6 = 40 yards
Game  7 = 94 yards
Game  8 = 113 yards
Game  9 = 32 yards
Game 10 = 131 yards
Game 11 = 74 yards
Game 12 = 44 yards
Game 13 = 76 yards
Game 14 = 9 yards
Game 15 = 101 yards
Game 16 = 101 yards
Game 17 = 17 yards

Amari had 1,120 yards total in 2022 including five (5) 100+ yard games, which means around half of his yards came in 5 games despite playing in 17 games. Amari had 6 games with less than 50 yards.

In his last season with the Cowboys, Amari had 865 yards and regardless of his "potential with a different quarterback", 865 yards is not worth $20 million nor is the 1,120 yards he got with different quarterbacks.

At some point, you are what you are and Amari is a good receiver who is worth around $10 million a year.
 

Stash

Staff member
Messages
78,810
Reaction score
103,500
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Jacoby Brissett who had a 64% completion percentage and Deshawn Watson for 6 games.

Cooper's season had nothing to do with their quarterback play as it was fine.
I don’t know how anyone could try to make that claim. It’s simply not true.

These are Cooper's game stats ..

Code:
Game  1 = 51 yards
Game  2 = 105 yards
Game  3 = 72 yards
Game  4 = 58 yards
Game  5 = 42 yards
Game  6 = 40 yards
Game  7 = 94 yards
Game  8 = 113 yards
Game  9 = 32 yards
Game 10 = 131 yards
Game 11 = 74 yards
Game 12 = 44 yards
Game 13 = 76 yards
Game 14 = 9 yards
Game 15 = 101 yards
Game 16 = 101 yards
Game 17 = 17 yards

Amari had 1,120 yards total in 2022 including five (5) 100+ yard games, which means around half of his yards came in 5 games despite playing in 17 games. Amari had 6 games with less than 50 yards.

In his last season with the Cowboys, Amari had 865 yards and regardless of his "potential with a different quarterback", 865 yards is not worth $20 million nor is the 1,120 yards he got with different quarterbacks.

At some point, you are what you are and Amari is a good receiver who is worth around $10 million a year.
Opinions vary. I’m not going to try to minimize a multi-time Pro Bowler because Dallas made a terrible trade.
 

coult44

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,793
Reaction score
7,566
People can stick their own head in the sand and pretend things didn’t happen if they need to. Maybe it helps them cope.

But that willful ignorance doesn’t work for the rest of us.
Can we stop bringing up Cooper, and then a 3 page thread about him. We can’t stop because these threads are created.
 

Reality

Staff member
Messages
31,171
Reaction score
72,340
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
I don’t know how anyone could try to make that claim. It’s simply not true.
I know, if anyone not named Rodgers, Mahomes, Allen, etc. was throwing to him it's not a true test of his "potential".

The reality is that if the Cowboys kept him, they were paying $20 million for an 865 yard season receiver with the same quarterback who threw to him in 2021 throwing to him in 2022.

The 1,160 yards he caught from those quarterbacks you deem not worthy was better than the results they got with the quarterback they have.

If anything, he was worth more to the Browns than he was to the Cowboys.


Opinions vary. I’m not going to try to minimize a multi-time Pro Bowler because Dallas made a terrible trade.
I agree .. I think the Cowboys should have tried to get more for him, no doubt.

That said, I have no problem at all with them getting rid of Amari if the cost was going to be $20 million for 2022 coming off a 865 yard season.

Blame the quarterback, blame the offensive coordinator, blame Jerry or blame the weather in Texas. It really doesn't matter.

It's not about whether he is worth $20 million to another team, but rather if he was worth $20 million to the Cowboys and he most certainly was not.
 

baltcowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
16,057
Reaction score
17,770
For goodness sakes Jerry made a horrible personal decision to release him. On the other side, did amari really change the complex of games for us? With #4 back there did he actually throw it to him when he was open, and was it a catchable ball??

In my opinion he's just bait because of the lack of talent they didn't have this season. The constant feeling that we could play with who we had was a JOKE! I hope this summer they take it more serious. Having weapons helps, but getting open, scheming, and good placed passes help also
Could we have restructured the Cooper contact similar to what we paid Gallup? In defense of the Cooper trade and resigning Gallup, I think Cooper not taking care of business and missing games last season pissed the Cowboys off. We lost like 3 straight games because of his decision.Gallup obviously returned to early from his injury but the Cowboys liked the fact that he came back early. I expect Gallup to be much better next season.
 

Stash

Staff member
Messages
78,810
Reaction score
103,500
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
I know, if anyone not named Rodgers, Mahomes, Allen, etc. was throwing to him it's not a true test of his "potential".
Strawman.

The reality is that if the Cowboys kept him, they were paying $20 million for an 865 yard season receiver with the same quarterback who threw to him in 2021 throwing to him in 2022.
Then maybe do something about that quarterback? Maybe they wouldn’t be dealing with another SF loss?

The 1,160 yards he caught from those quarterbacks you deem not worthy was better than the results they got with the quarterback they have.

If anything, he was worth more to the Browns than he was to the Cowboys.
More flawed logic.
I agree .. I think the Cowboys should have tried to get more for him, no doubt.

That said, I have no problem at all with them getting rid of Amari if the cost was going to be $20 million for 2022 coming off a 865 yard season.

Blame the quarterback, blame the offensive coordinator, blame Jerry or blame the weather in Texas. It really doesn't matter.

It's not about whether he is worth $20 million to another team, but rather if he was worth $20 million to the Cowboys and he most certainly was not.
I think it’s an internal issue that should have been addressed rather than making the receiver a scapegoat.
 
Top