Can you imagine our draft w/out the RW trade?

Asa55

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Not here to debate whether or not it was a good trade. Just looking at our original picks before the trade.

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1-1 pick
2-1 pick
3-2 picks
4-2 picks
5-3 picks (1 comp?)
6-3 picks (1 comp)
7-1 pick

Now that would be some ammo for a great draft.
 

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the peoples choice;2685926 said:
Not here to debate whether or not it was a good trade. Just looking at our original picks before the trade.

round
1-1 pick
2-1 pick
3-2 picks
4-2 picks
5-3 picks (1 comp?)
6-3 picks (1 comp)
7-1 pick

Now that would be some ammo for a great draft.

I think it will still be a great draft, we used the 1 (20th pick) but have a young vet WR in Williams.
 

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Doomsday101;2685931 said:
I think it will still be a great draft, we used the 1 (20th pick) but have a young vet WR in Williams.

I would take the proven Williams over any draft pick in the twenties anyday.
 

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We'd have to have a receiver and other than Crabtree I don't see any receiver that has the potential that Roy Williams has.

Jeremy Maclin? Nope Sorry.

We wouldn't have had to give Detroit nearly as much either if we would have gave them Miles Austin (who they wanted) but instead we decided to keep Austin and just give up a 3rd.

It was reported they viewed Austin as a 2nd round choice.
 

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CATCH17;2685936 said:
We'd have to have a receiver and other than Crabtree I don't see any receiver that has the potential that Roy Williams has.

Jeremy Maclin? Nope Sorry.

We wouldn't have had to give Detroit nearly as much either if we would have gave them Miles Austin (who they wanted) but instead we decided to keep Austin and just give up a 3rd.

It was reported they viewed Austin as a 2nd round choice.


Again you guys are missing the point of my post. But if this is where it's going then ok. We need another WR so we go and sign Roy Williams to a FA contract since once he got to FA you know JJ wouldn't let him get away.

Now we still have Roy and the draft picks. Happy now?:rolleyes:
 

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the peoples choice;2685939 said:
Again you guys are missing the point of my post. But if this is where it's going then ok. We need another WR so we go and sign Roy Williams to a FA contract since once he got to FA you know JJ wouldn't let him get away.

Now we still have Roy and the draft picks. Happy now?:rolleyes:

If he would have hit the open market we may have gotten into a bidding war that we couldn't compete in with Demarcus Wares contract looming.

Vikings, Eagles, Colts, Titans, and im sure more teams that I can't think of off the top of my head would have been very happy to over pay Roy Williams.

I don't have a problem for overpaying for him either because Jerry tried anything he could to push this team over the top and get us in the Superbowl. He did his part with the pieces that were on the field but our players did way to many boneheaded things that prevented us from winning.
 

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It would have been exactly the draft we have now except you'd trade Williams for the 20th pick that you'd likely have to use on a WR and there isn't a WR in this draft, at the 20th pick, that is as good as Roy Williams.

Even Crabtree and Maclin would be guys you don't know if they'll be good or busts. Roy Williams is a young, proven, veteran WR. He's the best 20th pick you could have had this year.
 

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CATCH17;2685945 said:
If he would have hit the open market we may have gotten into a bidding war that we couldn't compete in with Demarcus Wares contract looming.

Vikings, Eagles, Colts, Titans, and im sure more teams that I can't think of off the top of my head would have been very happy to over pay Roy Williams.

I don't have a problem for overpaying for him either because Jerry tried anything he could to push this team over the top and get us in the Superbowl. He did his part with the pieces that were on the field but our players did way to many bonehead things.

plus the fact that Detriot might have put the franchise tag on him and the price might have been higher, especially with other teams in the mix
 

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the peoples choice;2685939 said:
Again you guys are missing the point of my post. But if this is where it's going then ok. We need another WR so we go and sign Roy Williams to a FA contract since once he got to FA you know JJ wouldn't let him get away.

Now we still have Roy and the draft picks. Happy now?:rolleyes:


Yeah and that 45 million people are questioning giving him already...you probably would have had to give more because as a FA Dallas wouldn't be the only team looking at him.

You don't think the Jags, or San Fran, or Tampa, or Oakland, or Miami or several other teams with needs at the WR position wouldn't have been after him?

On the FA market you're not assured, at all, to get him and if you do you're likely having to give him more than the 45 he already got, given the slim pickens on the WR market this year.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2685947 said:
It would have been exactly the draft we have now except you'd trade Williams for the 20th pick that you'd likely have to use on a WR and there isn't a WR in this draft, at the 20th pick, that is as good as Roy Williams.

Even Crabtree and Maclin would be guys you don't know if they'll be good or busts. Roy Williams is a young, proven, veteran WR. He's the best 20th pick you could have had this year.

And why wouldn't Detroit Franchise Roy Williams and just put him on the trading block like the Pats did with Cassell?

dannyboy;2685951 said:
plus the fact that Detriot might have put the franchise tag on him and the price might have been higher, especially with other teams in the mix

Beat me to it.
 

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And we wouldn't have owens and our #1 WR would be Miles austin...this thread should be locked.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2685966 said:
And we wouldn't have owens and our #1 WR would be Miles austin...this thread should be locked.

It's only speculation but I think if we did not trade for Williams we would still have the #20 and Owens would still be a Cowboy.
 

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CATCH17;2685954 said:
And why wouldn't Detroit Franchise Roy Williams and just put him on the trading block like the Pats did with Cassell?

In that case, I'd take him for a 2nd and be given a veteran pro-bowl linebacker in return.
 

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Apollo Creed;2685974 said:
Were we the only team in the market for Roy?

At the time probably so.

Nobody really makes trades like that during the season.

The Roy11 trade was probably the biggest trade there has ever been during the middle of a season.
 

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HomeOfLegends;2685969 said:
It's only speculation but I think if we did not trade for Williams we would still have the #20 and Owens would still be a Cowboy.

That's a possibility.
 

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Apollo Creed;2685974 said:
Were we the only team in the market for Roy?


I doubt it, Jerry just has had such a hard on for Williams from the time he entered the draft that he was the only one willing to give up a first round pick. I have heard numerous times other teams were offering 2nd round picks and/or a combination of picks.
 

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In the spirit of the OP's intent, yes that would have been pretty awesome. Regardless of what we would have needed, it would have been awfully fun gearing up for it.

I love the fact that we've got 11 picks and relatively few needs but it's not as fun when you're not picking till the 50s.
 

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HomeOfLegends;2685981 said:
I doubt it, Jerry just has had such a hard on for Williams from the time he entered the draft that he was the only one willing to give up a first round pick. I have heard numerous times other teams were offering 2nd round picks and/or a combination of picks.

I just think we were competing against ourselves. I'm sure we could have waited until this offseason and gotten him for relatively nothing, but Jerry panicked after Tony's injury. Oh well, hindsight.
 
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