Captain Checkdowns

[Star Guard_31]

They just don't want mistakes by the backup QB beating them.

Today their desire to avoid mistakes by the backup is what beat them.

 

[CowboyStar88]

No, you really arent.

No I really am... But again thank you for your input I appreciate it.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

They just don't want mistakes by the backup QB beating them.

True, but not letting them play is getting them beat anyway.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

The problem is that Romo will end up coming back in just enough time to give us a false positive from this disaster of a season but completely screw our draft position.

It's the Cowboy way.

And Romo will be blamed for the whole season because some people have short memories.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

How much of it is conservative play calling, which is the normal course of action with a backup qb, and how much of it is the Seahawk's design of their defense, not allowing the deep ball?

How much of it was Cassel being afraid to pull the trigger? The pass protection was really good today. I think the coaches are too conservative and both Cassel and Weeden are too scared.

 

[cml750]

They just don't want mistakes by the backup QB beating them.

lol... Even BrainPaint gets it now. I thought you guys had to sign an oath in blood or something to never criticize the coach.

 

[Idgit]

lol... Even BrainPaint gets it now. I thought you guys had to sign an oath in blood or something to never criticize the coach.

No. Perhaps you should bother to read the actual posts?

And was BP ever a big fan of Jason Garrett's? That's not how I'd have characterized him.

 

[Idgit]

True, but not letting them play is getting them beat anyway.

Except last week, where the opposite from this same QB cost us 3 possessions, a defensive pick-six and a blown throw to a wide open Terrence in the end-zone. It's a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't scenario. The non-QB areas of the team aren't good enough to make up for the bad QB play.

I'm all for being critical of those areas, for the record. I'm critical of both of the QBs, too. I just know what we've got there and have felt for weeks now that it was not going to be enough no matter what plays are called.

 

[cml750]

No. Perhaps you should bother to read the actual posts?

And was BP ever a big fan of Jason Garrett's? That's not how I'd have characterized him.

I was just picking with you!!!! Sorry, I am sure you are in a foul mood from the loss and all the negative post are probably getting to you.

 

[SportsGuru80]

This team is a disaster without Tony. Nobody should be saying anything negative about him. He literally carried this franchise on his back all these years.

This is the truth!

 

[dallasdave]

Well I think we can see that it is not the individual QBs with the problem. It appears to be coached into them.

I think Romo basically calls the shots on offense except for rare occasions and the current QBs do not have this option.

But iI am stillpassed so I could just be speaking out of my considerable sized back side... I need more booze.

Have a few drinks before the game !!!!

 

[Idgit]

I was just picking with you!!!! Sorry, I am sure you are in a foul mood from the loss and all the negative post are probably getting to you.

Thanks. It's not really the negativity, though it does mean a lot of clean up work in threads. The blanket dismissal of what I'm actually trying to say gets tedious.

I *do* think the coaches don't have this team fully prepared this season. Our blocking on both coverage and returns for ST is awful, and it took until week 6 for the OL to get it together, despite the fact that we've got what I consider to be a deep NFC team in terms of talent. That's all on coaching, by default.

I don't agree that we ought to be calling low-percentage high-turnover-probability plays. I've been saying so since Weeden was in there against ATL, and my opinion hasn't changed. And yet I have to listen to people last week excusing a 3 turnover performance with some really bad QB risks as first-game jitters and then complaining this week because we're not taking the same types of chances that had us losing to the stupid Giants.

I just want to see us playing better on ST and continuing to play good defense and blocking well until Romo comes back. If the rest of the team looked better, I'd have no problem putting it on the QB. As it is, we've got other problems, and pretending it's play calling and not our actual execution is burying our collective heads in the sand because we want to believe it'll all be ok when Tony gets back.

 

[dallasdave]

Dallas is playing not to lose, instead of playing to win !!!! How's that working ?

 

[wileedog]

I don't agree that we ought to be calling low-percentage high-turnover-probability plays. I've been saying so since Weeden was in there against ATL, and my opinion hasn't changed. And yet I have to listen to people last week excusing a 3 turnover performance with some really bad QB risks as first-game jitters and then complaining this week because we're not taking the same types of chances that had us losing to the stupid Giants.

So you don't think that a guy starting his first NFL game in over 14 months was a factor in last weeks game, but you do think that the correct solution was to do what the coaching staff did and turn Cassel into a checkdown QB like Weeden but with a worse arm?

What is the point of Cassel being on this team then?

 

[TheKey]

Barry Switzer once said "Don't coach caution into good players." Now I know our backup QBs are good, but we have coached caution into this whole team. They play scared, and it shows.

 

[Joe_Fan]

And Romo will be blamed for the whole season because some people have short memories.

I wouldn't personally blame Romo because it's his job to win games. I'd blame the coaches more because it'd make a wasted season even more painful by at least not taking advantage of the draft position.

 

[DandyDon52]

The coaching staff is a bunch of you wussies!

They made him check down and it cost us! 97 yards passing really???

yeah JG and Lin were way too conservative today, again they are playing not to lose, instead of being bold and going for the win.

The run game was good again, then they got away from in in red zone??

 

[Idgit]

So you don't think that a guy starting his first NFL game in over 14 months was a factor in last weeks game, but you do think that the correct solution was to do what the coaching staff did and turn Cassel into a checkdown QB like Weeden but with a worse arm?

What is the point of Cassel being on this team then?

No, I don't think 'a guy starting his first NFL game in over 114 months' is in any way an excuse for not taking sufficient care of the football. And, yes, I was happy to see Cassel not taking downfield chances often this game, and I was cringing the few times he did. If it were Williams back there and not Dez, at least one of those plays would have been a turnover, too.

Was that somehow not clear from what I posted?

As to Cassel being on the team, he's got 90+ starts in the league, can get past his second read, and can look off a S. Don't get mad at me if you confused yourself into thinking he was going to be our savior, though, because he was never going to be.

 

[wileedog]

No, I don't think 'a guy starting his first NFL game in over 114 months' is in any way an excuse for not taking sufficient care of the football.

That's pretty demanding of a backup.

And, yes, I was happy to see Cassel not taking downfield chances often this game, and I was cringing the few times he did. If it were Williams back there and not Dez, at least one of those plays would have been a turnover, too.

And that's a big reason we're 0-5 post Romo.

Was that somehow not clear from what I posted?

Just wanted to give you chance to double down on being wrong.

As to Cassel being on the team, he's got 90+ starts in the league, can get past his second read, and can look off a S. Don't get mad at me if you confused yourself into thinking he was going to be our savior, though, because he was never going to be.

If he is going to be coached to be a worse Brandon Weeden, we should have saved the draft pick and just left Brandon Weeden in there to throw 5 yard passes to McFadden on 3rd and 10.

 

[CATCH17]

Isn't this the same topic as the coaching thread? Any neutral observer of last weeks game would say the Cowboys were highly likely to have won that game with a slightly more conservative offensive strategy. The Cowboys with their backup QB were very close to winning against the Seahawks. If the game is close with Cassel as the QB then the coaching was probably not a huge part of the problem.

You need a feel for when to coach conservatively and when not to.

The Cowboys coaches don't have that.

They coach in extremes.