Cardinals Turn down Commanders trade offer for boldin.

[firehawk350]

My, somebody's panties are in a wad? Why the hell would you deign to presume I give a **** about what you think about me or if you respond to me. Clearly, this is causing you plenty of heartache, so maybe it's best if I don't continue, but I like to see you struggle.

A) Chocolate lab already proved my point that's all the proof you are going to get. B) You can't tell me what to do, if I so desire to find some posts that prove my point, I will share them with you, but to think these bizarre and baseless demands can, or will, do anything is childish in and of itself. C) If you ignore me, this will make my day, so in fact, your threat sounds more like a promise to me. Maybe a better threat would be I won't stop posting...

 

[firehawk350]

There are ways to spin it to make it seem like they didn't cave. They could say that the offer was too good to refuse, they didn't want another TO in philly situation or that CJ was messing with Palmer's development. It does invite others to want to rebel like this, but those others need the paycheck moreso than CJ and aren't almost uncuttable like CJ is.

 

[ajk23az]

wow this thread has become interesting.

Did anyone ever hear or read what they offered?

Not really interesting, annoying is more the word. Arguing about grammar? Woopty-doo.

But no, I still havent heard anything else.

 

[iceberg]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!! Wow, you are funny! HAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Whoa, that was good... Commander underroos... hahaha... My only question is how are you NOT famous with a wit like that.

Either way, my job is an unattended ground sensor analyst. Basically, I watch hidden cameras (they are actually a good deal more than that, but for sake of brevity) in Iraq and Afghanistan in known IED/insurgent hotspots for suspicious activity. I report on trends and analysis, monitor the health of the systems, program the sensors and troubleshoot the network. It's slow because nothing needs programming and all the products are already out. All I have to do is glance every 5-10 seconds over to my other screen where the feeds are set-up (and activity over there is slow today, so even that is pretty tame).

who said i'm not famous?

as for the job - had a friend who's job it was in the air force and one job was to determine if they should/could retrieve a downed chopper. he said at one time he could see the terrorists dancing all over one and having a party so he fired off the missles to destroy it.

they were just like an added bonus.

 

[iceberg]

So when in doubt, lie??? Or when the going gets tough, the tough lie?

firehawk - in all fairness, *you* came in here arguing with a stereotype, not a person. when asked for people to back up your stereotype, you can't or have yet failed to do so. not my fault. not sp's - yours. if you choose NOT to back it up fine. don't. go monitor some dirt for terrorist activity or something. but the simple fact of the matter is you were wrong in how you came in here and unless i've missed it or it's still to come, you've never said you were wrong about this alleged stereotype cowboys fans you made up in your mind.

like i said in another post, if there are so many to choose from, finding one can't be that hard, can it? maybe if you tried talking as a person, not as a counter-stereotype you'd get further with your point.

 

[Skinsmaniac]

You can feel free to show me where all this "trade Roy Williams to Dallas because he wants it" nonsense went on, but I have a feeling you won't, because it doesn't exist.

Here's a thread where two posters said that Roy Williams could use his desire to go to Dallas as leverage.
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116933

 

[Skinsmaniac]

The ability to point out typing errors does not make one intelligent. This is evidenced by your choice of NFL fandom

The fact that you chose what team you like shows what kind of fan you are.

 

[The30YardSlant]

The fact that you chose what team you like shows what kind of fan you are.

We all make a concious choice to root for a team

I saw the Cowboys for the first time when I was 5 and made a choice to be a lifelong fan.

You did the same for the Commanders. Nobody made you love them, and you certainly werent genetically predispositioned to cheer for them. Ergo, it was a choice.

 

[superpunk]

Here's a thread where two posters said that Roy Williams could use his desire to go to Dallas as leverage.
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116933

I appreciate your attempt to assist your incompetent fellow fan, but that is not what he suggested. He said that Cowboyszone posters suggested that the Lions would be more inclined to take a lesser offer from Dallas because that is where Roy Williams wants to play.

This was a joke on those posters who think that the Lions really care about where Roy Williams wants to go.

What you have found is posters suggesting that other teams won't want to trade for Roy Williams only to lose him to Dallas in another year, or trade for him and not be able to work out a contract extension with him. Which is true, no team would want to do that.

Well, except for the Commanders.

 

[iceberg]

The fact that you chose what team you like shows what kind of fan you are.

so i suppose you're hoping for a strike soon so you can get another ring?

 

[mmillman]

Washington is just poisoning the well for Dallas and Philadelphia.

 

[iceberg]

Washington is just poisoning the well for Dallas and Philadelphia.

well if you can't win, make sure you at least hurt the other teams in your division with your stupidity. snyders motto.

 

[Skinsmaniac]

We all make a concious choice to root for a team

I saw the Cowboys for the first time when I was 5 and made a choice to be a lifelong fan.

You did the same for the Commanders. Nobody made you love them, and you certainly werent genetically predispositioned to cheer for them. Ergo, it was a choice.

The Commanders chose me . I was just kidding, I think it's funny to picture someone sitting in their living room with a list of teams, trying to chose which team he would support.

 

[Skinsmaniac]

I appreciate your attempt to assist your incompetent fellow fan, but that is not what he suggested. He said that Cowboyszone posters suggested that the Lions would be more inclined to take a lesser offer from Dallas because that is where Roy Williams wants to play.



What you have found is posters suggesting that other teams won't want to trade for Roy Williams only to lose him to Dallas in another year, or trade for him and not be able to work out a contract extension with him. Which is true, no team would want to do that.

Well, except for the Commanders.

Here is his quote. The first bold section shows that he meant that some fans think Roy has leverage because he would rather play this year out and sign with Dallas next year than be traded to another team, with a long term contract. The second bold section shows that he meant that some fans think that Detroit would send him to Dallas just out of generosity. Maybe he meant both things. I think he emphasized the first point, but I'm in law school, and I've had enough of analyzing texts, so I'm not going to bother anymore.

The Cowboys want Roy Williams, and Roy Williams wants to play in Dallas, so many Zoners, after hearing about Philly's and Washington's purported interest used the argument, "but Roy Williams WANTS to play in Dallas" as a reason why, despite an inferior offer (supposed) he would end up a Cowboy anyways. This argument continues to state that Roy Williams would refuse to sign a multi-million dollar extension with the trading team and sit out because he likes Dallas better.

This was a joke on those posters who think that the Lions really care about where Roy Williams wants to go. In conclusion, the price has been set (1st and a pick in the first three rounds next year) and just because Roy Williams wants something, doesn't mean it's going to happen.

 

[superpunk]

Posters suggested that Roy would be inclined to leave once his deal was over, and that would make teams avoid trading for him - not that he would sit out and not sign an extension with his new team. There is a rather large difference between those two ideas. His post also suggests that people said the knowing Roy's desire, the Lions would take less from Dallas because they really care about where Roy Williams wants to go.

Nothing you linked up helps him, unfortunately, or makes him seem any less infantile for refusing to back up his own claims.

 

[Skinsmaniac]

Posters suggested that Roy would be inclined to leave once his deal was over, and that would make teams avoid trading for him - not that he would sit out and not sign an extension with his new team.

So you think Roy would sign an extension, but teams would be worried that he would leave after that new contract - in like five years? I'm not clear on what you mean.

 

[superpunk]

So you think Roy would sign an extension, but teams would be worried that he would leave after that new contract - in like five years? I'm not clear on what you mean.

I didn't express an opinion either way.

What people suggested is that other teams would be worried that he wouldn't sign an extension, play out the last year and then leave. If they can't work an extension, they are unlikely to trade for him. (Unless they play in Washington)

Which is not what firesquawk was making fun of, and has yet to back up.

 

[Skinsmaniac]

I didn't express an opinion either way.

What people suggested is that other teams would be worried that he wouldn't sign an extension, play out the last year and then leave. If they can't work an extension, they are unlikely to trade for him. (Unless they play in Washington)

Which is not what firesquawk was making fun of, and has yet to back up.

That's true, if they can't sign him to an extension, they would be unlikely to trade for him. Some posters said that Roy would be unlikely to sign an extension with a place like Washington because of his love for Dallas. That is exactly what firehawk was making fun of:

This argument continues to state that Roy Williams would refuse to sign a multi-million dollar extension with the trading team and sit out because he likes Dallas better.

 

[superpunk]

That's true, if they can't sign him to an extension, they would be unlikely to trade for him. Some posters said that Roy would be unlikely to sign an extension with a place like Washington because of his love for Dallas. That is exactly what firehawk was making fun of:

No it's not. Can you not read either?

What do "sit out" mean?

Don't get involved with your boy firehawk by isolating one part of his post. He's in over his head already. He'll only drag you down.

 

[Skinsmaniac]

No it's not. Can you not read either?

What do "sit out" mean?

Don't get involved with your boy firehawk by isolating one part of his post. He's in over his head already. He'll only drag you down.

You'd make a great lawyer. The fact is that 1) posters suggested that Roy's preference for Dallas has an impact, and 2) Firehawk made fun of this idea, and 3) he was right to make fun of this idea.