CBS Sportsline - Overrated & Underrated players from each team

[MarionBarberThe4th]

I wouldnt say scoutsinc is the determining factor. But calling Sean Taylor underrated is ridiculous. Hes an all or nothing player, very inconsistent.

 

[riggo]

isnt that scouting report a year old?

 

[riggo]

My brother wanted to leave with 2 mins. to go! I talked him into hanging around and we were both glad we did...... the TD was great and a 7th rounder burning Taylor was icing on the cake!:starspin

cowboyfans knock skins fans for gloating about the sweep last year....while you all talk about this play???

not to mention taylor redeeming himself by smacking the crap out of crayton to help seal the win in game 1 last year.....

 

[riggo]

I remember a certain game last year when a late Williams interception won the game. It's too bad about Roy's coverage skills.

lspain, if youre talking about the eagles game, i've got to disagree. that was a god awful pass right to williams- and nobody else wearing green and white- by mcnabb. that play reminded me of the boys super bowl MVP larry browns INT.

 

[Mansta54]

cowboyfans knock skins fans for gloating about the sweep last year....while you all talk about this play???

not to mention taylor redeeming himself by smacking the crap out of crayton to help seal the win in game 1 last year.....

I think its ridiculous to gloat or brag just cause you beat us twice last season. Dude we are your hated rival and have beat that arse 15 of 18 and you gloat after winning 2 straight. Yeah, I think thats simply ridiculous. We own yall and that's not me talking, thats 15 of 18 talking. That's total and complete domination. It speaks volumes!!!

 

[jterrell]

The problem with the article is it was handled sophmorically like if we took a quick poll instead of employing real effort or even real thought.

They went with the gimmes. Might not be any more accurate after some effort but at least it would show. The guys who have been called overrated dozens of times were simply selected.

A few of the underrateds were at least worth a glance but seriously spend 20 minutes on each roster and review some tapes before compiling a list like this if it is a real atttempt at journalism.

A few NFCE thoughts.

Wash-- underrated, Chris Cooley. One of the rare players who was drafted outside round 1 by them and actually starts for the Skins.
overrated, Santana Moss. Moss is neither as bad as suggested before last seaosn nor as good as he is perceived after a great season. Truth is he was Washington's only real WR option and teams played 8 and 9 in the box to stop the run because they had no fear of Washington's passing attack.

NYG-- underrated, Lavar Arrington. Arrington was a bench player last year until the playoffs came then had perhaps the best game by a Commander defender all year in the Skins playoff win. He has the talent to be an NFL defender of the year nominee next season. All the rest last season should have allowed his body to heal.
overrated, Eli Manning. Manning put up solid enough totals but looked awful doing it. He reaped great rewards from very good protection, outstanding skill position play around him and a monster defense.

Philly-- underrated, Brian Westbrook. Westbrook is the closest thing in the league to Tiki Barber and given some some holes in the running game he is an every down threat. Last season Philly didn't back him up with an inside runner and teams chose to cover Westbrook when WRs couldn't get open and QBs couldn't throw more than 10 yards accurately. He could have a big bounce back year with a healthy McNabb and Burkhalter to do some of the inside running.
overrated, Sean Dawkins. Dawkins has been perhaps the league's best free safety for 5 years or so but last season he really fell off and it coyuld be the lack of pass rush eliminated his ability to come up and make plays or it could be age(and the wear of so mnay games in 5 years) is finally slowing down his legs.

 

[AdamJT13]

lspain, if youre talking about the eagles game, i've got to disagree. that was a awful pass right to williams

The pass wasn't right to him, it was behind him and over his head --

By the way, how'd Carlos Rogers do with that screen pass Matt Hasslebeck laid in his lap for an easy touchdown during the playoffs?

Oops.

 

[riggo]

I think its ridiculous to gloat or brag just cause you beat us twice last season. Dude we are your hated rival and have beat that arse 15 of 18 and you gloat after winning 2 straight. Yeah, I think thats simply ridiculous. We own yall and that's not me talking, thats 15 of 18 talking. That's total and complete domination. It speaks volumes!!!

its ok to gloat about a play that happened 2 years ago, but when said player gets redemption, its silly to gloat then?

ok.

 

[big dog cowboy]

By the way, how'd Carlos Rogers do with that screen pass Matt Hasslebeck laid in his lap for an easy touchdown during the playoffs?

Oops.

Think Paul Simon - slip sliding away.........

 

[riggo]

The pass wasn't right to him, it was behind him and over his head --

By the way, how'd Carlos Rogers do with that screen pass Matt Hasslebeck laid in his lap for an easy touchdown during the playoffs?

Oops.

i'm sorry- did you say 'playoffs'?

yes, the skins were there.

 

[scottsp]

That's a pretty easy pick to make.

 

[jterrell]

Before I say anything, I think Roy is a very good SS - one of the best at his position. I don't think Roy would be a good FS, though.

Without a doubt - if Roy didn't have a star on his helmet, he would not be as hyped as he is.

Thats simply not true.

RW would be a star anywhere because he makes the hits that show up on ESPN. It was RW in the Pro Bowl wearing whatever red and white crap that told Chad Johnson he wouldn't score then held him down. It was RW in the Pro Bowl who injured Rod Smith.

If RW had half the free safety help that Polamalu had he would be an NFL defende rof th eyear by now.

FWIW I wonder at times myself about him getting beat deep but watching him in the Pro Bowl game showed me that when he isn't asked to both play the run and stop 30 yard posts he can quite well contain deep stuff.

No one believe Brunell could throw the ball that far and it shocked Dallas, period. RW was half silly to get burned twice but it was also scheme. What exactly had the Commander offense done for the first 50 minutes of that game?

 

[riggo]

and, by the way, that pass was right to him.

 

[jterrell]

i'm sorry- did you say 'playoffs'?

yes, the skins were there.

For once, as a wildcard team, you wanna cookie?

 

[riggo]

For once, as a wildcard team, you wanna cookie?

dallas was the division winner?

no.

dallas was a wild card?

no.

you have a point, then?

no.

 

[Bizwah]

Thats simply not true.

What exactly had the Commander offense done for the first 50 minutes of that game?

Excellent point.

I get a kick from Skins fans that say Moss "owned" us, but he did virtually nothing for 55 minutes (nor did any other Skin for that matter).....He didn't do a whole lot in game two either.

We were stupid to lose in game one......Heavily injured in game two.

We didn't have to do much this offseason to catch....and eventually pass them talent-wise.

 

[nchhalada333]

If Taylor gets his head on straight he could very well be one of the best in the league!

he is already one of the best.....

u could have said he could be THE BEST in the league if he had his head on straight and it would be fine

 

[riggo]

No one believe Brunell could throw the ball that far and it shocked Dallas, period. RW was half silly to get burned twice but it was also scheme. What exactly had the Commander offense done for the first 50 minutes of that game?

the first pass was 39 yards. roy didnt think an NFL QB could throw it 39 yards?

 

[nchhalada333]

Wash-- underrated, Chris Cooley. One of the rare players who was drafted outside round 1 by them and actually starts for the Skins.
overrated, Santana Moss. Moss is neither as bad as suggested before last seaosn nor as good as he is perceived after a great season. Truth is he was Washington's only real WR option and teams played 8 and 9 in the box to stop the run because they had no fear of Washington's passing attack.

you are correct about cooley

however, I believe that Santana Moss is not overrated

wen u put 8 in the box u have three DB's in pass defense

most likely one safety and two corners

all teams rolled the safety over to santana to double team him

santana played through the double team this and was the second leading reciever in the NFC

 

[AdamJT13]

That's a pretty easy pick to make.

Certainly, because NFL players never drop passes that are behind them and over their heads, let alone passes that hit them squarely in the chest. Especially not defensive backs -- they never drop passes behind them and over their heads, and they catch everything thrown right to them one-handed while high-stepping into the end zone.

Except Carlos Rogers, of course.