CBS Sportsline - Overrated & Underrated players from each team

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AdamJT13 said:
Certainly, because NFL players never drop passes that are behind them and over their heads, let alone passes that hit them squarely in the chest. Especially not defensive backs -- they never drop passes behind them and over their heads, and they catch everything thrown right to them one-handed while high-stepping into the end zone.

Except Carlos Rogers, of course.

Well, that he didn't goof the play doesn't necessarily give this one a high degree of difficulty. Goofing on Carlos Rogers is always welcome. :)
 

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scottsp said:
Well, that he didn't goof the play doesn't necessarily give this one a high degree of difficulty.

I didn't say it was extremely difficult, but it wasn't an easy catch, either. Wide receivers are praised when they catch a pass thrown high and behind them. Nobody says those kinds of catches are easy. So why is it different when it's Roy?
 

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I didn't say it was extremely difficult, but it wasn't an easy catch, either. Wide receivers are praised when they catch a pass thrown high and behind them. Nobody says those kinds of catches are easy. So why is it different when it's Roy?

It's not to take anything away from Williams, but this was an uncontested grab. He wasn't running away from the play. He was facing and eyeballing the passer as the play unfolded. As interceptions go, they don't get much easier. Of course, we have Donovan to thank for the misread.

Perhaps if Roy was battling in the air with a receiver or making the grab while an opponent was grabbing and clutching, I'd call it tough. But this was basically a practice pick.

Now his interception vs. Carolina later in the year...that was a beautiful nab. Very tough, in deep coverage. Loved it.
 
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I actually think Roy Williams is overrated, the guy needs to cover better. Bill Parcells will be the first one to tell you that about Roy.
 

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ThreeSportStar80 said:
I actually think Roy Williams is overrated, the guy needs to cover better. Bill Parcells will be the first one to tell you that about Roy.

HAHA.. hell Bill Parcells has never seen a COMPLETE player in his life.. at least he wouldn't EVER let the player know he thought they were the complete package. Of course Parcells would fault find in Roy's game... just like he does with every other player he's seen play.
 

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This Prisco article may be absolute rubbish.. like every article of his I've seen... but one thing is rock solid. There's not a statement he could ever make that is more true than this:

It might not be the Pro Bowl, nor do we give them a trip to Hawaii, but at least they can take satisfaction in knowing somebody appreciates what they do.

SOMEBODY appreciates what those guys do... unfortunately, its 1 guy that is a complete idiot.
 

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scottsp said:
As interceptions go, they don't get much easier.

Should I list all of our interceptions last year that were easier? I could even list some dropped interceptions that would have been easier (no, not the one by Carlos Rogers drop, I mean those for the Cowboys).
 

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TheHustler said:
You know whats overrated? The overrating of Roy Williams, everyone and their mother does it now. Apparently now he's no more than an in the box scrub. He's not a top-tier safety? That's laughable.

I agree.......I would not trade Roy for anyone.
 

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riggo said:
the first pass was 39 yards. roy didnt think an NFL QB could throw it 39 yards?

I wouldnt blame him. Brunell isnt exactly John Elway, even his own media dubbed him "Noodle Arm". Looking at the video, he really rears back and heaves it just get it that far
 

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TEK2000 said:
HAHA.. hell Bill Parcells has never seen a COMPLETE player in his life.. at least he wouldn't EVER let the player know he thought they were the complete package. Of course Parcells would fault find in Roy's game... just like he does with every other player he's seen play.

I beg to differ

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HeavyHitta31 said:
I wouldnt blame him. Brunell isnt exactly John Elway, even his own media dubbed him "Noodle Arm". Looking at the video, he really rears back and heaves it just get it that far

first, its ridiculous to think that an NFL QB couldnt throw it that far. but even if he didnt know, whats the excuse for pass #2? it went 50 yards in the air just like the first one. is there an NFL QB who cant throw it 50? of course not. i know you didnt bring it up initially, but i was just curious.

i looked at that video again, and there was help to roys right on the first pass. i still dont know why he wasnt in better position, given that there was help. its natural to want to cover for well liked players, but they are human. the excuses given for roy get a little tough to believe, s'all.
 

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Gfunk said:
same things everyone has been saying for years now

yawn

I agree

Every year, the Commanders spending sprees will put them in the SB

Every year, they fail to live up to expectations
 

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riggo said:
first, its ridiculous to think that an NFL QB couldnt throw it that far. but even if he didnt know, whats the excuse for pass #2? it went 50 yards in the air just like the first one. is there an NFL QB who cant throw it 50? of course not. i know you didnt bring it up initially, but i was just curious.

i looked at that video again, and there was help to roys right on the first pass. i still dont know why he wasnt in better position, given that there was help. its natural to want to cover for well liked players, but they are human. the excuses given for roy get a little tough to believe, s'all.

No one is excusing the first TD pass, he should have been deeper. 5 more yards and it's either a pick or Moss doesnt have clear sight of the ball.

The second TD was all on Glenn, his job was to bump Moss more into the middle of the field, and he didnt do it. Roy tried ti cover for him, but was too far away to make a play.
 

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Roy Williams was confused on the 39 yarder, he must have thought we still had Danny Wuerffel who couldnt throw a ball 40 yards to save his life.
 

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riggo said:
dallas was the division winner?

no.

dallas was a wild card?

no.

you have a point, then?

no.

I think that bragging about making playoffs and scoring ONE TD in 2 playoff games is pretty bad(yeah 2nd TD was when game was over)... I mean... didnt Brunnell throw for under 100 yards in one of those games? Where was Moss when it mattered?

Way to represent!?:rolleyes:
 

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YoMick said:
I think that bragging about making playoffs and scoring ONE TD in 2 playoff games is pretty bad(yeah 2nd TD was when game was over)... I mean... didnt Brunnell throw for under 100 yards in one of those games? Where was Moss when it mattered?

Way to represent!?:rolleyes:
I completely agree.

We last won a playoff game in the Wildcard Playoffs after the 1996 season. We annihilated the Vikings in that game by the way. Since then we have lost in the Wildcard Playoffs twice.

I don't see Cowboys fans lauding that win. Yeah, I know it was 10 years ago. We still don't bring it up.

The last significant game we laud is Super Bowl XXX. Until we win another one I hope it stays that way. I'd hate for Cowboys fans to be all puffed up over 1 lousy win that was insignificant in the long run.
 
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