CeeDee not spotted in Dallas for minicamp

[rnr_honeybadger]

Likely catching passes from CJ Stroud.

 

[Cowboys93]

Can’t blame him. Pay the man

 

[JoeKing]

Good for CeeDee. Don't come around until those Jones boys give you your well-deserved new contract.

 

[DallasEast]

Just in case there are any members, who are Aliens fans also, overly concerned while reading this thread...

Hudson: That's it, man. Game over, man. Game over! What the <expletive> are we gonna do now??? What are we gonna do???​

Burke: Maybe we can build a fire, sing a couple of songs, huh? Why don't we try that?​

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Likely catching passes from CJ Stroud.

Tank Dell, Stefan Diggs and Nico Collins?

 

[CowboyStar88]

I mean with Jefferson done there’s no excuse or reason to not get him done.

Depends if they are looking to actually lock him up long term. I do wonder if the FO decides to change course on how they proceed with these contracts moving forward. Do they consider trading talent for picks if the team hasn’t experienced sustained success in the postseason.

It seems like every deal is record setting over the previous one while achieving the same results. Is there a point where the production never matches the contracts? Is there a point where ROI becomes overly lopsided?

 

[maryquality]

Just in case there are any members, who are Aliens fans also, overly concerned while reading this thread...

Hudson: That's it, man. Game over, man. Game over! What the <expletive> are we gonna do now??? What are we gonna do???​

Burke: Maybe we can build a fire, sing a couple of songs, huh? Why don't we try that?​

My favorite movie from the Alien franchise!! Bill Paxton was great!!

My favorite line from that movie was: Hudson: Hey Vasquez, anyone mistake you for a man?
Vasquez: No, you??

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Depends if they are looking to actually lock him up long term. I do wonder if the FO decides to change course on how they proceed with these contracts moving forward. Do they consider trading talent for picks if the team hasn’t experienced sustained success in the postseason.

It seems like every deal is record setting over the previous one while achieving the same results. Is there a point where the production never matches the contracts? Is there a point where ROI becomes overly lopsided?

So what's the plan then? To let every other contender make record setting contracts and we just sit back and what? I mean I'm not saying it's not possible. This front office just doesn't get it. They are always late to the party or never arrive to the party at all.

 

[DallasEast]

My favorite movie from the Alien franchise!! Bill Paxton was great!!

My favorite line from that movie was: Hudson: Hey Vasquez, anyone mistake you for a man?
Vasquez: No, you??

My favorite is Sigourney Weaver's nail you to the wall Burke quote.

 

[CowboyStar88]

So what's the plan then? To let every other contender make record setting contracts and we just sit back and what? I mean I'm not saying it's not possible. This front office just doesn't get it. They are always late to the party or never arrive to the party at all.

I’ve hypothesized about contracts before (I’d have to go search my posts for it) and how it could work but it doesn’t matter as the entire CBA would have to be re-negotiated.

But as it currently sits? I couldn’t tell you what the plan is, that’s why I was asking is it possible they don’t want to sign him long term? Is there a scenario where they end up trading for multiple picks? Is that philosophical change they might consider? They’ve changed how they operate in FA, so it makes me wonder.

 

[jazzcat22]

Hold outs only work if they go to Cabo.
There is a player on the roster that can give him some advice.

 

[ShortRound]

 

[Chasing6]

Not anymore for players on 5th year options for training camp. If he did miss training camp it should be 40k a day.

For mandatory Minicamp I believe the below is accurate for players on entry deals or signed as an UFA:

https://overthecap.com/collective-bargaining-agreement/article/42
(b)(xi)

Unexcused failure to report to or unexcused departure from mandatory offseason minicamp—maximum fine of $15,515 for the first missed day, $31,030 for the second missed day, and $46,540 for the third missed day (e.g., a player who misses all three days of minicamp may be fined up to $93,085).

Now, there's nothing to say it can't be waived unlike training camp absences. But I don't believe there's a rookie vs vet distinction for minicamp fines.

There's no breakdown to if the player was still under his rookie contract or UFA deal for minicap.

If I am CD my contract negotiations go up $40,000 every day I don't have a new contract.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I’ve hypothesized about contracts before (I’d have to go search my posts for it) and how it could work but it doesn’t matter as the entire CBA would have to be re-negotiated.

But as it currently sits? I couldn’t tell you what the plan is, that’s why I was asking is it possible they don’t want to sign him long term? Is there a scenario where they end up trading for multiple picks? Is that philosophical change they might consider? They’ve changed how they operate in FA, so it makes me wonder.

Well i'l say this.....I feel if you wanted to trade him for picks you should've done it before now. They had to know this day would come. When it became clear last season that Dak is forcing balls his way and he was gonna be a First Team All Pro they should've had a plan in place. I hope for their sake the plan wasn't to "hope he takes a smaller piece of the pie".

 

[CowboyStar88]

Well i'l say this.....I feel if you wanted to trade him for picks you should've done it before now. They had to know this day would come. When it became clear last season that Dak is forcing balls his way and he was gonna be a First Team All Pro they should've had a plan in place. I hope for their sake the plan wasn't to "hope he takes a smaller piece of the pie".

Unfortunately this is probably exactly the thought process they are using. It’s the Dallas Cowboys! Like that means anything these days.

 

[jblaze2004]

You’re right. But if he tore his ACL I think he still gets a Jefferson deal.

idk about that after what happened with Michael Gallup and Steele. I would think they would be hesitant if he tore his ACL.

 

[John813]

If I am CD my contract negotiations go up $40,000 every day I don't have a new contract.

Probably how his agent would counter.

Martin had to eat those fees last year, but I'm sure his agent had a running bill for him signing factoring in his 50k a day fines

 

[jblaze2004]

Jerry should of did this earlier. The longer you wait the more you end up paying. The same happened with Dak. We wait til the very last minute and we end up having to pay more.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Unfortunately this is probably exactly the thought process they are using. It’s the Dallas Cowboys! Like that means anything these days.

I know smh…..they still just don’t understand.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Jerry should have did this earlier. The longer you wait the more you end up paying. The same happened with Dak. We wait til the very last minute and we end up having to pay more.

I don’t think he could’ve got this deal done early without avoiding this type of money.