Changed minds about Romo?

peplaw06

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GLIDINGJJ;1148691 said:
Back your statement up with facts. What do you see that he doesn't do well considering he has had two starts in this league. I don't believe you can fault his arm strength, mobility, accuracy or intelligence, so what are you basing this statement on? Yikes, maybe it is because he played for a small school and hasn't led the Cowboys to three straight victories. Gosh, narrow minded people make me crazy. :banghead:

Here's his facts...

He's "a scout... not professionally... but he's a scout." And it's obvious to anyone who has more than an elementary knowledge of football that Romo has flaws in his mechanics.

What are those flaws you may be asking?? We don't know... he won't tell us. :cool:
 

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Romo was born to do this and you can tell. His release is quicker than dog crap. When he sees someone opened, his wind up and throw is like less than 1/10 of a second. When he scrambles, he does it just to get an opened lane to throw the ball.

He's 6'2 but he's had no blocked passes at the LOS I don't think. His instincts are unreal. His Accuracy is the #1 reason he will be a star in this league.
 

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5Stars;1148347 said:
Oh, I see...so, since the ones of us that responded that he indeed DOES have a chance...we have reading comprehension problems and should have not posted?

Man, you really tricked me...sorry I responded...

:cool:

You didn't prove you had reading comprehension problems until you posted this - I never said EVERY poster had problems.
 

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StarAmongStars;1148402 said:
I think Romo is going to have a great career as a back up, but I don't believe he is a franchise type of QB.

That's fine if you believe that, but tell us why.
 

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Stautner;1149653 said:
You didn't prove you had reading comprehension problems until you posted this - I never said EVERY poster had problems.

I am still not sure why you had a problem with my post?
 

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Joe_Fan;1148302 said:
There are plenty out there who still think that Romo can't succeed.

They're called Bledsoe fans.

cowboys19;1148308 said:
please explain

Stautner;1148312 said:
You don't even see the possiblity? Averaging 275 ypg and 1.5 TD's over 2 starts doesn't show you ANYTHING?

Hell, if ANY QB could be rattled and lose his confidence his game could go to pieces. That's a broad statement that applies to everyone - only applying it to Romo is unfair.

All I was asking is if you can see there is talent and he has a reasonable chance to be successful - if you can't see that much I'm wondering what it takes. Enlighten me.

Have you really not seen ANYTHING to suggest success?

Dorsett33;1148316 said:
What is it about his game that has you thinking that way? Just curious. Cause I couldn't tell from that.

YoMick;1148317 said:
Wow... I see just the opposite.... he gets first downs after BIG penalties on offense.... eh, thats just me

OK, I mean I think he can be a great QB dont get me wrong and as of right now I think he will be. BUT, he is able to make the plays he does because he is so confident IMO. He has the balls to make throws and take off running. If he ever struggles and has a couple of games where he gets beaten or cant make a play he might lose that confidence and struggle.

Im not saying it will happen, and im a big time romo fan, im just saying that i could see that happening.
 

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peplaw06;1148531 said:
Don't mind stauty... He doesn't like posts that in his opinion are off point. If you're not directly answering his questions he doesn't want to hear it.... in my opinion. He takes everything so personally. In one fell swoop he insulted just about every poster in this thread, saying they have comprehension issues... when all they were really doing is agreeing with him.:cool:

Pep - I've noticed that you apparently view yourself as a knight in shining armor swooping down to protect the defenseless against bullies. Good for you - don't forget to wash your cape and mask occassionally.

Apparently it is you who takes things personally - even when you aren't involved.

And perhaps you all should realize that I didn't say EVERY poster had comprehension problems, and that I was responding directly to a particular poster - but if you missed that perhaps comprehension difficulties are a problem for you.
 

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Stautner;1148294 said:
I'm just curious, is there anyone out there who still thinks Romo can't succeed.

Mind you, I'm not saying he will have a brilliant future, of course 2 starts doesn't tell the whole story.

But I'm not talking about there being any certainty that he will have a great future, just that he has proven enough that to show he can have that kind of future - that he can be a quality QB in the NFL.

IN OTHER WORDS, THIS THREAD IS DIRECTED TO THOSE WHO HAD CLAIMED THAT THERE WAS NO WAY IN HELL ROMO COULD SUCCEED.

Have you changed your mind and are willing to say it's possible?

I never truly liked Carter, Hutch, Henson or Romo. I thought all of them were attempts by Jerry to find a QB on the cheap and not have to spend money on the first round draft choice.

We have seen guys piece together good games before and eventually fizzle out, heck even Quincy Carter had his moment.

He has shown me he belongs on this level, but I am going to reserve judgement until I see more games with him.

He has clearly outplayed Bledsoe, and I would not be surprised if at the end of the season, people are saying Romo is the best QB that we have had since Aikman left.

- Mike G.
 

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mickgreen58;1149673 said:
I never truly liked Carter, Hutch, Henson or Romo. I thought all of them were attempts by Jerry to find a QB on the cheap and not have to spend money on the first round draft choice.

We have seen guys piece together good games before and eventually fizzle out, heck even Quincy Carter had his moment.

He has shown me he belongs on this level, but I am going to reserve judgement until I see more games with him.

He has clearly outplayed Bledsoe, and I would not be surprised if at the end of the season, people are saying Romo is the best QB that we have had since Aikman left.

- Mike G.

I personally thought Hutch and Henson were reasonable gambles AS LONG AS we weren't counting on them or putting plans on hold for them - as long as they were viewed as projects and not certainties to be relied on. It's hard to know if that happened or not, but taking gambles is much better than sitting on your hands and watching everyone else make moves for the better.
 

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I will eat crow. I was a Romo doubter.

I really was never impressed with Romo's arm strength the times I had seen him play. His passes seemed to float and wobble a lot. His accuracy was not the best either. From where we sit as fans, it is hard to see decison making and intelligence. So, I could never comment on those things or factor them in. Maybe I saw and heard about all the bad throws in camp but he seems to really have a lot of zip on the ball now. It definitely comes out fast which is vital when you have an average Oline.

From what I have seen, I'm very impressed so far. And as a Cowboys fan I hope he's our next good QB. He still has a lot to prove. He will have his growing pains - especially when teams figure him out. It's not a matter of "if". It's a matter of "when".

It's called the "aha" moment for defenses. All of a sudden teams figure out what he does to tip off plays, what he looks for when he gets to the line, etc.. That's when coaching a young QB gets challenging. All the fine details. Look at Chicago. Teams are figuring out Grossman the way they did Quincy Carter about mid way through the season the year we made it to the playoffs.
 

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Stautner;1149689 said:
I personally thought Hutch and Henson were reasonable gambles AS LONG AS we weren't counting on them or putting plans on hold for them - as long as they were viewed as projects and not certainties to be relied on. It's hard to know if that happened or not, but taking gambles is much better than sitting on your hands and watching everyone else make moves for the better.

Taking failed Baseball prospects and trotting them out in Texas Stadium is not what I consider a "reasonable gamble".

And Hutch was the worst candidate of all of them, he just plain sucked.

And I do find it funny that you think Hutch/Henson were reasonable games but Carter wasn't. All of them had a big "BAG" of nothing and sucked for their own particular sucky reasons. The only guy I thought could have been a servicable backup, is Carter if he could have kept his nose clean (no pun intended) and wasn't so freakin paranoid of the boogie...err Vinny.

- Mike G.
 

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Stautner;1148294 said:
I'm just curious, is there anyone out there who still thinks Romo can't succeed.

Mind you, I'm not saying he will have a brilliant future, of course 2 starts doesn't tell the whole story.

But I'm not talking about there being any certainty that he will have a great future, just that he has proven enough that to show he can have that kind of future - that he can be a quality QB in the NFL.

IN OTHER WORDS, THIS THREAD IS DIRECTED TO THOSE WHO HAD CLAIMED THAT THERE WAS NO WAY IN HELL ROMO COULD SUCCEED.

Have you changed your mind and are willing to say it's possible?

You asked in your title:
Changed minds about Romo?

I responsded:
However, I was clearly wrong. Romo has everything it takes to make it.
I answered your question in this instance.

You asked:
I'm just curious, is there anyone out there who still thinks Romo can't succeed.

I responded:
Like you said two games does not make a career, but he would be hard pressed to play any better than he has in his first two NFL starts ever.

The future is very bright for Romo...
I was basically agreeing with you. Not answering a question, but agreeing.

You qualified your question and then asked:
IN OTHER WORDS, THIS THREAD IS DIRECTED TO THOSE WHO HAD CLAIMED THAT THERE WAS NO WAY IN HELL ROMO COULD SUCCEED.

Have you changed your mind and are willing to say it's possible?

I responded:
That depends on far back this question goes. When Henson was around I always thought that he had the physical tools to succeed and Romo did not.

However, I was clearly wrong. Romo has everything it takes to make it.

I think you need to be man enough and admit you were wrong and apologize. You asked a couple of questions, I answered them and agreed with you yet you feel the need to call me out without just cause.

This is a forum for discussion, just because you post a thread with a qualified question does not mean no one else can jump in and add to the original post without telling people they have
little comprehension

I noticed you called out Pep for
you apparently view yourself as a knight in shining armor swooping down to protect the defenseless against bullies

Yet it is ok for you, a poster who has been on this forum a whole two plus months, to call people out for
little comprehension

This forum was just fine before you got here. Thank you very much. People get called on their opinions all the time. I have no problem with that. That is what this board is all about. I do have a problem with you regulating how people answer questions and wether it is to your liking or not. Get over it.
 

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gbrittain .....

My response to you was based on the fact that I asked how people felt about Romo NOW, and you responded by asking how far back the question went. The question was merely about NOW, if anyone STILL believed Romo couldn't succeed - the notion of "how far back" the question went had no application.

But maybe I overreacted - maybe all the discsussion of how you once felt served a pupose. I probably should have been more patient, so I apologize.

As for pep - he has made a habit of intervening, even at times when there is no real animosity between the parties involved, and even when he isn't one of the parties involved. In otherwords, I've seen him insert himself into discussions even though he makes no attempt to address the actual topic, and create dissention even when there is none.
 

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Stautner;1149741 said:
gbrittain .....

My response to you was based on the fact that I asked how people felt about Romo NOW, and you responded by asking how far back the question went. The question was merely about NOW, if anyone STILL believed Romo couldn't succeed - the notion of "how far back" the question went had no application.

But maybe I overreacted - maybe all the discsussion of how you once felt served a pupose. I probably should have been more patient, so I apologize.

All is well Stautner all is well. Just wanted to clear it up.
 

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Stautner;1149741 said:
As for pep - he has made a habit of intervening, even at times when there is no real animosity between the parties involved, and even when he isn't one of the parties involved. In otherwords, I've seen him insert himself into discussions even though he makes no attempt to address the actual topic, and create dissention even when there is none.
I'm intervening to try to show you how you misinterpreted the situation. As gbrittian's post above clarified. It's nothing more.

I've simply noticed, and gbrittain pointed this out, that you feel it necessary to police other's posts, especially in threads you start. I was calling you on it.

I'm just explaining, so you'll know what's going on.

And BTW, I'll insert myself in the conversation if I think you're treating someone unfairly. People do that all the time on here, it's not just me. If I feel I can clarify or bring something to your attention that you're missing, I'll do it. If you don't like it, that's your problem.

But from our first conversations I've noticed that about you... a sense of condescension in a lot of your posts replying to someone. When I see you do it, and I believe it's unfair or a misunderstanding, it bugs me because I've experienced it. I guess I think the more you see the responses, maybe you'll wake up to it. I guess I should give up hope :cool:
 

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Stautner;1148294 said:
I'm just curious, is there anyone out there who still thinks Romo can't succeed.

Mind you, I'm not saying he will have a brilliant future, of course 2 starts doesn't tell the whole story.

But I'm not talking about there being any certainty that he will have a great future, just that he has proven enough that to show he can have that kind of future - that he can be a quality QB in the NFL.

IN OTHER WORDS, THIS THREAD IS DIRECTED TO THOSE WHO HAD CLAIMED THAT THERE WAS NO WAY IN HELL ROMO COULD SUCCEED.

Have you changed your mind and are willing to say it's possible?


Of course he can't succeed. Just ask around here. They'll tell you that he has a noodle arm with no zip and "nothing behind it". He's from a small school and isn't the caliber of player we need at QB.

A career back up at best...

Who cares if he has moxie.... That's a stupid word anyways.

It's time that we send him to NFLE and see how he does over there before we make him the starter.

In the meantime, lets bring back Drew Henson and watch him stare down Terry Glenn as he side arms the ball out of bounds.

I'm still not a believer. I've never thought that Romo ever had anything tangible... like game experience, snaps in college, arm strengh, moxie, competiveness, "it" ....

I've never said any of those things before, and I sure as hell aint sayin' them now.

:rolleyes:

/sarcasm

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Heck no, I don't question him. I'm the freakin' founder of the Tony Romo Banned Wagon.

Respect-o-nize! :D
 
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