Chip Kelly versus Jason Garrett

[cowboys1981]

LOL at the Chip lovefest going on in here.

I can't even begin to imagine what the state of this board would be if Garrett and the 'Boys got clobbered the way Philly did yesterday. Starting QB or not, some of ya'll are giving Chip a lot more leeway and credit than what I've seen Garrett get on here...after a win!

If we win it's because if Chip Kelly. If we lose, its Garrett's fault. Lol.

 

[KingintheNorth]

So Chip Kelly, with a back-up QB, loses to Aaron Rodgers in Lambeau Field, and he sucks.

While last year Jason Garrett, with Tony Romo, blows a 26-3 lead against Matt Flynn at home, and he's good?

Got it.

 

[DOUBLE WING]

So Chip Kelly, with a back-up QB, loses to Aaron Rodgers in Lambeau Field, and he sucks.

While last year Jason Garrett, with Tony Romo, blows a a 26-3 lead against Matt Flynn at home, and he's good?

Got it.

 

[Zman5]

Would you have posted his pic if the Cowboys were to have won three SB's? lol

If the Cowboys do something special this season, I sure hope you change your tune...which you will! You will be the first in line to want to celebrate. So, for your sake, you better hope that Garrett goes 8-8 again! lol

Come back to me when he wins a playoff game let alone 3 SBs.

 

[visionary]

Garrett is such a great offensive mind that the GM had to remove his influence from offensive planning and playcalling for the team to be successful

Now that is what I call great

 

[Zman5]

So, let me get this straight? It was Garrett's fault for all the players on defense getting injured?

Is that what you are saying?

EaGirls played the GB without their starting QB, MLB, and OG. And they've been playing with most of their OL injured this season.

So is it Chip Kelly's fault their players are injured and got blown out by ARod in GB?

 

[lurkercowboy]

The comparison should not be between Kelly and Garrett, according to announcers and media. It should be between Kelly and Lombardi, Paul Brown, Shula, Walsh, Landry, and maybe a few other guys like that. They keep promoting Kelly as being super great. Why? I don't really follow college football closely, but I just don't see anything ultra special about Kelly at this point.

 

[visionary]

The comparison should not be between Kelly and Garrett, according to announcers and media. It should be between Kelly and Lombardi, Paul Brown, Shula, Walsh, Landry, and maybe a few other guys like that. They keep promoting Kelly as being super great. Why? I don't really follow college football closely, but I just don't see anything ultra special about Kelly at this point.

We all already know that Landry does not hold a candle to Garrett

 

[Zman5]

This Landy to JG comparison is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
Landry invented the 4-3 defense while JG is still trying to copy other's innovations and doing a bad job at it.

When is he going to stop trying to copy the NE's two TE offense and stop wasting our second round picks on TEs that never see the field?

 

[atlantacowboy]

I've sat through the slobberfests over Chip Kelly enough times now. I've had it shoved down my throat that this guy will change the NFL forever with his superkalafrejalisticexpialadocious offense. It's too complicated for mortal humans, I'm told. It's beyond our cerebral capabilities to understand.

So when's it going to beat anybody?

I keep waiting. I watched it yesterday crash and burn again. I watched a gawd awful Cowboys defense hold it to 3 points last year in Philly. I saw Denver annihilate it a year ago, and I watched it lose to New Orleans in the playoffs. I watched it fail to score an offensive touchdown against San Fran. I saw it barely beat Kyle Stinking Orton for the division in the finale last year.

Since he arrived in Philly, Chip Kelly is 17-10. Jason Garrett is 15-11 over that same stretch. They split their two meetings, and if Romo wasn't hurt in that finale, I have zero doubt Garrett would be 2-0 against Kelly. And that's with the worst defense in Cowboys history a year ago.

Kelly's signature win to date, I suppose, was a home win against Arizona last year. The Cardinals did not make the playoffs by the way. And the referees had a HUGE hand in that win in Indianapolis this season, and we saw the Colts show their backsides last night.

I'm not saying Chip Kelly is a bad coach. I'm just saying he's not this transcendent football god we were told ad nauseum he would be. These teams aren't Washington State.

Philly's running game is sputtering, as is its red zone efficiency. The Eagles have to wearing down from all the snaps. Yesterday, you saw the Eagle defense wilt because its offense spends so little time on the field whether it scores or not.

Give me the approach of Jason Garrett any day of the week.

Build a team for December with a strong offensive line and running game that can travel anywhere and play in any conditions. I'll take my chances with that. If the weather is bad in Philly in a few weeks, it's the Cowboys that are best built for it, not the home team.

So I beg the pundits and prognosticators, enough with the Chip Kelly love cult. I'm unimpressed and bored with it.

I like the enthusiasm and team spirit. But, to be fair, Kelly is working with Mark Sanchez. Nobody can win with Mark Sanchez in general let alone on a frozen tundra.

As for Garret, is it really his approach we are watching unfold this season? He never wanted to give up play calling duties. That is a concession Jerry forced him into making. Was it garret's idea to scrap the 3-4 and hire Kiffin? I know Garret is only one voice among many in the war room. So, what we are actually seeing is a stew of a lot of different people. None of the relative success we have enjoyed this year would be happening without Marinelli and the new play calling strategy of Linehan which looks nothing like anything garret had been running since he arrived in Dallas back in 2007.

As for December, Garret's team's have folded every december so far as a head coach. So, that part of your post is pure wishful thinking at this point. It hasn't happened yet.

They'll be plenty of time to celebrate and shake the pom pons when this team actually accomplishes something. But right now it is way premature to celebrate anything more than the last W.

 

[cml750]

Boy the rose colored homerism is strong in this thread. Some people will do anything to defend Garrett and the pitiful job he did in his first three full seasons. I hope Garrett is finally on the right track this season but I am sorry, Chip Kelly has done much better than Garrett did in his first 1 1/2 seasons and Garrett has had the luxury of having a top notch QB. Kelly has already won a division title and Garrett hasn't done squat. Take off the rose colored glasses and open your eyes people.

 

[Idgit]

I like 'em both.

 

[Idgit]

Garrett is such a great offensive mind that the GM had to remove his influence from offensive planning and playcalling for the team to be successful

Now that is what I call great

Is this something you really believe? Because it's not true. FYI.

 

[visionary]

Is this something you really believe? Because it's not true. FYI.

Eyes and ears closed again?

 

[PoundTheRock]

So Chip Kelly, with a back-up QB, loses to Aaron Rodgers in Lambeau Field, and he sucks.

While last year Jason Garrett, with Tony Romo, blows a 26-3 lead against Matt Flynn at home, and he's good?

Got it.

 

[PoundTheRock]

This is the kind of thread that makes everyone think Cowboys fans are idiots, BTW.

 

[Idgit]

Eyes and ears closed again?

I wish sometimes. But as a mod, I have to review all sorts of posts I'd rather avoid.

But I can tell you categorically that Jason Garrett's influence was NOT removed from game planning or playcalling. That's just silly.

 

[visionary]

I wish sometimes. But as a mod, I have to review all sorts of posts I'd rather avoid.

But I can tell you categorically that Jason Garrett's influence was NOT removed from game planning or playcalling. That's just silly.

Lol talk about an inflated ego

A poster on a message board telling us "categorically " how things work inside the organization

Please enlighten us about your connections in the organization

If not, I would refrain from making inaccurate statements

 

[cml750]

This is the kind of thread that makes everyone think Cowboys fans are idiots, BTW.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Chip Kelly versus Jason Garrett