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Chip Kelly versus Jason Garrett

Discussion in 'Overtime Zone' started by erod, Nov 17, 2014.

  1. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    You said it all when you claimed you'd have no doubt they would be 2-0 against Kelly if Romo wasn't injured. The Cowboys would have been 2-0 if Garrett wasn't coaching either and Romo was still QB.
     
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  2. khiladi

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    You mean the same division the Cowboys play in?
     
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  3. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    RG3 is getting trashed in DC... They aren't sparing him at all and are chanting Colt McCoy's name..
     
  4. DoctorChicken

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    Are you going to change your sig when we make the playoffs?
     
  5. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    You mean Jason Garrett getting demoted to essentially walk-around HC proves that Garrett is a great HC? How about when you change your signature to one that says Jason Garrett sucked as a play-caller and needed to be demoted?
     
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  6. khiladi

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    Aaron Rodgers put up around 50 the last week. He's thrown 18 TDs and O INTs at home and is playing out of his mind. He is totally destroying teams right now. If I was playing Aaron Rodgers in the play-offs right now, I'd be worried.
     
  7. DoctorChicken

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    Are you going to change your sig when we make the playoffs?
     
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  8. khiladi

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    You mean Jason Garrett getting demoted to essentially walk-around HC proves that Garrett is a great HC? How about when you change your signature to one that says Jason Garrett sucked as a play-caller and needed to be demoted?
     
  9. Doomsday101

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    He is the HC he sits in on all meetings, he has a say with his coordinators and assistant coaches. Being demoted sure you can say he was relieved of play calling yet play calling is not what HC is all about. Garrett has much more time to over see all aspects of this team and does.
     
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  10. khiladi

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    It was clearly the main issue with this team and the reason Garrett was hired in the first place and the duty that Garrett did not want to give up;
     
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  11. DoctorChicken

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    I don't know if you understand my question.

    I just think it'll look funny when we go to the playoffs and beat a team or two and you have a sig (and pretty much every post) dedicated to trashing the HC.
     
  12. khiladi

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    I don't know if you understand my question.

    You mean Jason Garrett getting demoted to essentially walk-around HC proves that Garrett is a great HC? How about when you change your signature to one that says Jason Garrett sucked as a play-caller and needed to be demoted?
     
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  13. DoctorChicken

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    k
     
  14. VACowboy

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    Mission Viejo High School won a state championship with Mark Sanchez.

    Pete Carroll went 12-1 and beat Penn State in the Rose Bow with Mark Sanchez.

    The New York Jets won four playoff games in Sanchez's rookie and second seasons, making the AFC championship game both years. Sanchez became the fourth QB in League history to win his first playoff game and the second to win his first two.

    I'm not a Sanchez lover. I hope he loses every game he plays in Philly--badly. But the only place he hasn't won is NY, and he had historically good success there too. I think it remains to be seen how good an NFL QB Mark Sanchez is. He's only played for Rex Ryan and two games for Chip Kelly. From my view, Ryan's NYJ look like a team where QB's go to die. Kelly and his system look ultra QB friendly. So we'll see. The statement that "nobody can win with Mark Sanchez," though, is empirically and emphatically false.

    How do you know? Media reports?

    Maybe. I don't know. Do you?

    Does Garrett get none of the credit for assembling the "stew of different people" who help make all these decisions? When did delegating and listening to other knowledgable people become a negative for a head coach?

    Actually, Garrett has said from the beginning that he wants to run the football and use a play-action passing game. He just hasn't done it. The media reported that the Linehan hire, which almost everyone in the world laughed at, was all Garrett. Interestingly enough, Linehan was a pass happy OC before he joined Garrett's staff.

    Can't argue against any of that. I just prefer to hope instead of hate. But everybody's different.
     
  15. Doomsday101

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    Yes he hired as an OC to begin with he was promoted to HC, as Johnson himself had said early on it would be better for Jason to be the HC not both HC and Coordinator. As HC he has the responsibility over the entire team not one side of the ball or the other. He is involved with all aspects of the team that is the job of the HC. Just it was Jimmy job when he was here and just as it was Switzer job when he was here. You can demean Garrett all you want that is your gig and would be lost without it so whatever floats your boat. There is 1 HC in Dallas his name is Jason Garrett.
     
  16. blindzebra

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    BS.

    Jerry Jones said Garrett did not want to call plays when he became head coach but he, JERRY, said no. Garrett was not only willing to give it up, he never wanted to do it after becoming HC.
     
  17. VACowboy

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    :hammer:
     
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  18. VACowboy

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    I understand the theory behind the up-tempo offense, but it appears to me that unless you score and play defense, all you accomplish is tiring out your own defensive players. I mean, running plays quickly keeps the opposing defense from substituting, so there may be some advantage in that, But if your defense doesn't stop the opposing offense, all you do is carve out game time for the other team to eat up. (Something we're great at!) I'd love to see how Kelly's offense does at "regular" speed.
     
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  19. Doomsday101

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    I agree. I think using hurry up at times is a benefit but not something I would want to do throughout the game.
     
  20. jazzcat22

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    Give him 4 years and see where they are. I bet trophy cases will still be empty.
    Many 1st year coaches make the playoffs.

    Even Andy Reid took a bad KC team from 2012, last year to the playoffs.

    Give Kelly all the injuries Dallas had the past 2 years and see what he can do.
     

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