Chris Canty: Jerry makes no sense

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Naw we can't do that. We can't call him a bust yet. I was on record for either signing him or trading a 7th rounder for him. I'm always gonna be a Dak fan but I have no issue with using a 4th rounder on Lance.

But it is costing us IMO. That 4th could've been used to acquire a veteran. No one thought about that when they were praising the move just happy that someone made Dak "expendable"(he doesn't but you know these guys). Those same guys who praised the deal are now mad we aren't doing anything. Well, we don't have a 4th rounder geniuses.
That's exactly my point. Using a 4th rounder on a BUST was a horrible idea, especially right now when as you said the Cowboys could have used that 4th round pick as a trade for a starter before the upcoming trade deadline.
 

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Don't worry, Lance won't take your precious Dak's job, yet, anyway. He is ho threat to lover boy so rest in peace.
Lance is a BUST! Could have used that 4th round pick on a starter of need right now before the trade deadline comes up. Instead, dumb Jerry used it on a BUST just to please the mass of you Dak-haters.
 

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Part of that is true. Because all GMs are held accountable, but not all GMs do what Howie does. The Eagles and Rams ownership allow their GMs to be in full game mode. Probably a few other teams as well. What I mean by that is, they're playing to win as if it was a computer sim. They're all in on trying to win. Most ownership can't be bothered with all of that. So they probably don't give their GMs that kind of flexibility. And Jerry just seems like he can't be bothered anymore. He used to be like that, made a lot of mistakes, and now has dialed it back like 90%.
Well Howie makes mistakes too but he doesn’t let them stop him from trying to improve the roster. The problem is that Jerry is old and doesn’t exactly have his hand on the pulse of the league. He doesn’t have the relationships in other front offices or familiarity with rosters around the league like Howie and other real GMs. What he does for the Eagles isn’t something that is easy to replicate even for a GM with free rein. We are getting into the meat of the season with a clear need at LB and Rb. There is no excuse for jerry to announce he likes our roster and will only field trade offers not initiate any.
 

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Sure there is pressure. He’s not getting any younger. If we woke up tomorrow to find out Jerry had passed away in his sleep, would any of us be surprised? He’s at that age.
I doubt his mortality is a driving factor. How often do you wake up thinking you’re going to die so I better do this? Only the terminally ill would motivate themselves like that. Being a billionaire, he probably thinks he’s bullet proof….
 

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Sadly we have a part time GM, who would have been fired decades ago if he was working for any team that he did not own. Putting together a cohesive team takes hard work, vision, and ability, none of which seem to be a priority for the egotistical Jones's. Jerry would rather make a big splash and talk a big game, but our playoff record speaks for itself.
 

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Jerry needs to use the George Costsanza method. What ever you think do the opposite. We would be a dynasty
 

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That's exactly my point. Using a 4th rounder on a BUST was a horrible idea, especially right now when as you said the Cowboys could have used that 4th round pick as a trade for a starter before the upcoming trade deadline.
How is Lance a bust. Hes played 8 games? Biggest issue i see with him is he has been injured. That takes away valuable practice time. Im going to love the day he takes Daks job
 

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He said it on espn radio in regard to Jerry’s contention that he’s good with the current roster and doesn’t feel the need to initiate any trade talks. Meanwhile , our division rival shuts down the leagues best offense and then goes out and makes a trade for an all-pro safety and all its costs is a player and 5th, 6th round picks. If these mid season acquisitions can be had so cheaply , why the heck is someone from Dallas not on the phone trying to improve the team?? It makes no sense. Gotta agree with canty here.
Because Jerry is a moron. Great business guy, yes. But a moron none the less. I can’t wait till he finds another reality to occupy.
 

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Well, he overpaid Detroit by a mile for Roy Williams. He overpaid for Amari. He’s just not good at the GM part of title. It requires a lot of time. Being the GM of a football team is a year round job that requires a lot of relationships around the league that Jerry doesn’t have the time or inclination to invest in. That’s why we re-sign so many of our vets and rarely make trades. It’s the path of least effort.
He, for sure, overpaid for RW11 because of that Detroit game in ’06 toward the end of the year where he destroyed us. Such a silly trade.

The Cooper trade really wasn’t bad, IMO.

But I agree. Maybe he wouldn't gun shy if he hired someone competent to make these moves
 

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Sadly we have a part time GM, who would have been fired decades ago if he was working for any team that he did not own. Putting together a cohesive team takes hard work, vision, and ability, none of which seem to be a priority for the egotistical Jones's. Jerry would rather make a big splash and talk a big game, but our playoff record speaks for itself.
a self-appointed "part time GM" at that
 

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So the Cowboys haven't the urgency to make these moves. So Jerry doesn't want to win as much as the Eagles?

I think he does want to win, but only on his terms, his way of doing things.
No it's Stephen Jones way of doing things along with Jerry, but Stephen runs the salary cap. Which means, remember deion sanders issue with Jerry and Stephen almost coming to blows, Stephen likes to keep.salary in black. Stephen could care less about a nfc championship or Superbowl. Then let this sink in, when Jimmy Johnson was here, his first four years, Jimmy said he had full control in trades, it was written in his contract. Jimmy said you can look it up in nfl.com.contracts. Biggest true trade that has worked out well for Jerry was deion sanders but Stephen didn't like that. So what does that tell you, Stephen gets extra money from keeping salary cap in black, while he laughs at fans who believe he really wants to win Superbowls. Go watch his face reaction when he is shown his way isn't working while eagles bought a super bowl and so did rams. He smiles sort of chuckles we like to do it out way.
 

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He, for sure, overpaid for RW11 because of that Detroit game in ’06 toward the end of the year where he destroyed us. Such a silly trade.

The Cooper trade really wasn’t bad, IMO.

But I agree. Maybe he wouldn't gun shy if he hired someone competent to make these moves
Amari worked out better than Roy but it was still a bad deal. You should never have to trade a #1 pick for a wr on an expiring contract or a disgruntled situation. It’s just dumb. Teams are trying to get something for these guys. There is no reason to bail them out.
 

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How is Lance a bust. Hes played 8 games? Biggest issue i see with him is he has been injured. That takes away valuable practice time. Im going to love the day he takes Daks job
Go watch some of his tape. He is a bonafied BUST just like your badly misguided Dak hate.
 

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Then think about this if Stephen is such a good cap guru why do players and agents fleece him like Gallup deal. Then when we traded for amari cooper, raiders wanted to trade him because he was on last year of contract and his agent demanded big money. So head coach says, oh I can get sucker Jerry and Stephen to give me a number one. Let them deal with a big contract the next year. If any cap expert with common sense saw this, they would have said ok we will give you a number one pick, but your going to restructure his contract before we do. Most all NFL teams do that, eagles did with a j brown trade. But Stephen couldn't find his way out of a brown paper bag. He is no top cap guru when talking to agents to get a deal done. Zeke stung the cowboys when he was under contract for 2 years, Gallup and agent stung fleeced Stephen and cowboys. Yet each year Howie at eagles makes trades, resigns players they want, trades players who don't agree to new contract, the big reason we haven't won a nfc championship and super bowl is Stephen, jerry tries at times but stephen doesn't carr about nfc championships or Superbowls its the money
 

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Then think about this if Stephen is such a good cap guru why do players and agents fleece him like Gallup deal. Then when we traded for amari cooper, raiders wanted to trade him because he was on last year of contract and his agent demanded big money. So head coach says, oh I can get sucker Jerry and Stephen to give me a number one. Let them deal with a big contract the next year. If any cap expert with common sense saw this, they would have said ok we will give you a number one pick, but your going to restructure his contract before we do. Most all NFL teams do that, eagles did with a j brown trade. But Stephen couldn't find his way out of a brown paper bag. He is no top cap guru when talking to agents to get a deal done. Zeke stung the cowboys when he was under contract for 2 years, Gallup and agent stung fleeced Stephen and cowboys. Yet each year Howie at eagles makes trades, resigns players they want, trades players who don't agree to new contract, the big reason we haven't won a nfc championship and super bowl is Stephen, jerry tries at times but stephen doesn't carr about nfc championships or Superbowls its the money
Instead of going after Jerry go after Stephen
 
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