Chris Long Rumors

[CATCH17]

Sorry to rain on your parade but, the Cowboy's FO is not saying no to Bosa...
If Bosa is there and Ramsey is gone he's the choice.

Still too soon to be certain.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Dallas wants out of the 4th pick if QB's start to fall.

Ramsey is the only player im certain that they would take no questions asked.

Pick 5 may be the real sweet spot though. I think Philly and San Fran will both be looking to move up and I doubt Dallas would let Philly come up for a QB.

Also, I don't see Bosa as a real impact player and I can't help but think Jerry wouldn't love the idea of trading down a few spots, getting extra picks, and taking Elliot.

 

[Sandyf]

Like most have pointed out, it is to soon to know what the Cowboys will do at #4 if indeed it is where they pick. To many things can happen between now and the 28th of April. Kap could be traded to Cleveland and then most likely it would be Bosa or Ramsey for them, San Diego needs upgrades at OT, DL, and S/CB so it could be Bosa or Ramsey. Jack could be a possibility for us also. About the only certain thing at this point is Tunsill to Tennessee.

You have to ask the question if Ramsey, Bosa, and Jack are still there at #4 and say Cleveland has taken Goff or Wentz at #2, what if a team like Los Angeles or San Francisco or Chicago heck even Denver offer you a king's ransom to move down that included next year 1st round pick plus say 1st, 2nd, and 3rd this year, would you move down. Not sure what I would do but if I'm really looking at Romo's heir apparent or even a great RB (do believe Zeke can be great) then next year sure does appear to be a much better option.

Lots of time between now and the draft and about the only thing I am taking away from the various comments from GMs, analyst, draft experts and sportscasters is that in this draft there appears to be only 10 or 11 true 1st round grades. And it is a weak draft for almost every position except DT. Makes you wonder even more what Dallas will do.

 

[LittleD]

Still too soon to be certain.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Dallas wants out of the 4th pick if QB's start to fall.

Ramsey is the only player im certain that they would take no questions asked.

Pick 5 may be the real sweet spot though. I think Philly and San Fran will both be looking to move up and I doubt Dallas would let Philly come up for a QB.

Also, I don't see Bosa as a real impact player and I can't help but think Jerry wouldn't love the idea of trading down a few spots, getting extra picks, and taking Elliot.

That's a possibility if they can find a trading partner that doesn't fleece Jerry. If they do move down to beyond #7, then I like EE
as the choice because I think he's the best, least risk, player in this draft.

 

[CATCH17]

That's a possibility if they can find a trading partner that doesn't fleece Jerry. If they do move down to beyond #7, then I like EE
as the choice because I think he's the best, least risk, player in this draft.

I agree but im not completely sold on Elliot being some great tailback prospect. I think he's overhyped.

I'd feel good about taking him though if we get an extra 2nd.

 

[gimmesix]

Yea..mostly the pro-Bosa crowd.

Don't know if that's true, but I'm also not sure who makes up the "pro-Bosa crowd."

I think there are a lot of us who don't rule out Bosa as an option, but I'm not sure there's many of us who are saying Bosa is the player we've got to have.

I like to keep an open mind when it comes to the draft instead of being ready to get mad at the Cowboys if I don't get the player I want.

 

[StarBoyz83]

He'd be better than a rookie but either way were getting worse at de.

 

[Kolemmitt]

It's pretty obvious that if Long takes a bigger contract this week than Dallas can offer the team will accept
the facts on the ground that the DE positions this year will be manned by young players. I see
Lawrence, Ryan Russell & Bosa at WDE and Jack Crawford, David Irving and the toking kid at SDE if
the kid actually comes back. You can't have expensive All Pros at every position on a team. Marinelli
will have his hands full and will have to do his best coaching job to get them in a position to succeed.

I am pretty sure Bosa will be a SDE and what sense would it make to have your #4 pick sitting behind your best pash rusher? If we do that it will be a horribly wasted pick. Gregory is not a SDE in any sense of the word. He is probably too small to be a WDE, let alone a SDE.

 

[gimmesix]

He'd be better than a rookie but either way were getting worse at de.

To an extent. Hardy wasn't exactly a world-beater last year and Mincey wasn't healthy or good.

I'd feel better about our chances of improving if Gregory wasn't an addict, but we would have at least needed some depth even if he had not been suspended.

I do think Long would probably be better than Mincey was last year, but we need someone else to be better than Hardy was. Jury's out in that regard concerning Gregory, but we've got to add two ends for depth purposes, at least, so we'll see where we end up.

 

[gimmesix]

I am pretty sure Bosa will be a SDE and what sense would it make to have your #4 pick sitting behind your best pash rusher? If we do that it will be a horribly wasted pick. Gregory is not a SDE in any sense of the word. He is probably too small to be a WDE, let alone a SDE.

Why would Bosa be sitting behind our best pass rusher? Lawrence would be moved to WDE.

Our depth (if we got Long and drafted Bosa) would be Bosa and Long at SDE and Lawrence and Gregory at WDE. ... We'll also probably carry another DE while Gregory is suspended, but that player probably will be someone like Jack Crawford.

 

[LittleD]

Why would Bosa be sitting behind our best pass rusher? Lawrence would be moved to WDE.

Our depth (if we got Long and drafted Bosa) would be Bosa and Long at SDE and Lawrence and Gregory at WDE. ... We'll also probably carry another DE while Gregory is suspended, but that player probably will be someone like Jack Crawford.

They might do it but, Lawrence added weight and performed better from the strong side. He's not a quick twitch SDE that
Marinelli covets. Bosa is also projected to be a strong side DE. Bosa would be selected because he is the top projected
DE in this draft. This is not a good draft for 4x3 WDE's.

 

[gimmesix]

They might do it but, Lawrence added weight and performed better from the strong side. He's not a quick twitch SDE that
Marinelli covets. Bosa is also projected to be a strong side DE. Bosa would be selected because he is the top projected
DE in this draft. This is not a good draft for 4x3 WDE's.

I don't know if I'd say Lawrence performed better from the SDE spot. I think he came on just as strong at WDE the previous year after missing his first nine games, then getting sacks in both playoff games. He has good bend and quickness for the spot.

If he had missed his first nine games this year, I'm not sure he would have ended up doing any better than he had as a rookie, considering he only had one sack in his first eight games this year. It probably would have been similar to his adjustment where maybe we would have seen his potential by the end of the year.

I believe his size still fits the WDE spot better than the SDE spot. NFL.com has at 265 even after the weight and strength gain.

 

[LittleD]

I don't know if I'd say Lawrence performed better from the SDE spot. I think he came on just as strong at WDE the previous year after missing his first nine games, then getting sacks in both playoff games. He has good bend and quickness for the spot.

If he had missed his first nine games this year, I'm not sure he would have ended up doing any better than he had as a rookie, considering he only had one sack in his first eight games this year. It probably would have been similar to his adjustment where maybe we would have seen his potential by the end of the year.

I believe his size still fits the WDE spot better than the SDE spot. NFL.com has at 265 even after the weight and strength gain.

I can certainly agree with you that Lawrence may be the only option available at WDE and they may indeed move him there. Whether
it will work well, we're fixin' to find out.

 

[Kolemmitt]

Why would Bosa be sitting behind our best pass rusher? Lawrence would be moved to WDE.

Our depth (if we got Long and drafted Bosa) would be Bosa and Long at SDE and Lawrence and Gregory at WDE. ... We'll also probably carry another DE while Gregory is suspended, but that player probably will be someone like Jack Crawford.

Yea. I agree with you. Lawrence and Gregory (when he returns) on the weakside and Long and Bosa on the strong side, if we take Bosa. There is no way we put Bosa behind Lawrence. That would be a waste. The nice thing about picking up Long is that Bosa would not be a need pick, I still think we take a DE, but we could wait until later and maybe take a kid like Nassib or Kafusi (s?).

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Don't let this guy leave without a contract we need a body at DE. Right now our other starter is Ryan Russell by default.

 

[reddyuta]

I dont really care for Long,i feel he is washed up and he cant stay healthy either.I feel any rookie we draft will be better than him.

 

[gimmesix]

I can certainly agree with you that Lawrence may be the only option available at WDE and they may indeed move him there. Whether
it will work well, we're fixin' to find out.

Well, ultimately, I think we'll see Lawrence some at RDE and LDE (if we get Bosa and Long). If Gregory shows he needs to be on the field on third downs (when he gets back), most likely Lawrence would shift to LDE and Bosa/Long move inside, so Lawrence would essentially be a LDE on passing downs and RDE on first down and shorter second downs.

 

[gimmesix]

Yea. I agree with you. Lawrence and Gregory (when he returns) on the weakside and Long and Bosa on the strong side, if we take Bosa. There is no way we put Bosa behind Lawrence. That would be a waste. The nice thing about picking up Long is that Bosa would not be a need pick, I still think we take a DE, but we could wait until later and maybe take a kid like Nassib or Kafusi (s?).

I agree that Long would not make DE be a "need" pick (as in, we have have to take one in the first round), but I do think Dallas sees Long more as a rotational piece than a starter ... so I believe Dallas will go after a starting end early in the draft.

However, the team could view it as if they already have invested in two starters in Gregory and Lawrence and just need to fill out the rotational, getting a player at least capable of starting while Gregory is suspended. I think that would be a questionable plan, though, with Lawrence coming off back surgery and us not knowing what we've got in Lawrence. Dallas needs to get a player at DE that it is sure can hold down one of the starting spots and count anything we get from Gregory or a player like Long as gravy.

 

[LittleD]

Well, ultimately, I think we'll see Lawrence some at RDE and LDE (if we get Bosa and Long). If Gregory shows he needs to be on the field on third downs (when he gets back), most likely Lawrence would shift to LDE and Bosa/Long move inside, so Lawrence would essentially be a LDE on passing downs and RDE on first down and shorter second downs.

Frankly, I'm not sold at all on Bosa and I think he could eventually be a bust at the #4 pick. I do think that is the way the FO is thinking
and that need is going to override BPA in this draft because the DE class is sparse at best especially at the top. I actually like Buckner better than Bosa but I think they view him as more of a 3x4 player. Ramsey is most ready to deliver as a defensive player though I think that Weddle has forced
SD to look really hard at taking him.

 

[Risen Star]

He'd be better than a rookie but either way were getting worse at de.

We're getting worse at DE but at least we can bring our girlfriends around the team.

Now we just need to work on getting girlfriends.

 

[StarBoyz83]

We're getting worse at DE but at least we can bring our girlfriends around the team.

Now we just need to work on getting girlfriends.

I'm excited for this season. Last season was unwatchable. This season should be better if romo stays healthy. We're not going to win a title but we should contend for the nfce.