Church To Sign With Jacksonville

Sydla

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I'll take that bet!
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Granted Spotrac can be off, they had Church and Jefferson within $1MM of each other. So if Church was going to cost me $6MM and I could get Jefferson for $7MM, it's a no brainer.

Admittedly my issue here is that I just don't think much of Church.
 

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Granted Spotrac can be off, they had Church and Jefferson within $1MM of each other. So if Church was going to cost me $6MM and I could get Jefferson for $7MM, it's a no brainer.

Admittedly my issue here is that I just don't think much of Church.

I don't either. But I think Jefferson is getting paaaaiiiiddddddd.
 

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Granted Spotrac can be off, they had Church and Jefferson within $1MM of each other. So if Church was going to cost me $6MM and I could get Jefferson for $7MM, it's a no brainer.

Admittedly my issue here is that I just don't think much of Church.

Jefferson is just so much better than Church, I can't imagine it just being a mill difference. Jefferson's agent is probably asking for 10, but they'll settle for probably 8-9 to someone.
 

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Jefferson is just so much better than Church, I can't imagine it just being a mill difference. Jefferson's agent is probably asking for 10, but they'll settle for probably 8-9 to someone.

Maybe. I could be way off here.
 

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I agree, NY. We can't keep losing these guys and expect reserves to pick up their slack. Church was solid. Solid enough to where, barring a signing of Eric Berry (and, obviously he was extended), Church was our guy.

Going into this draft with too many holes on D sets us back. It is what it is, tho. No way in hell we pay Chrch that.

Hope we can re-sign Wilcox for a decent price. He's a thumper and he vastly improved last season. A late bloomer of sorts.

Not based on the reports of Tampa Bay being after him. We can't compete with what they will offer.

I think they're both gone.
 

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Heath does manage to actually catch interceptions, if that's any consolation.

Some :) and he hits like a Peterbuilt, but he is lost at times diagnosing angles, plays, coverages, etc.

He's a hell of a Cowboy, special team'er, etc. I just like him slotted as a backup, rather than a starter.
 

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Figured he was gone. Now hopefully Wilcox goes too so they have to make a move at ss
 

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Not based on the reports of Tampa Bay being after him. We can't compete with what they will offer.

I think they're both gone.

Yup. We're getting trashed with these team's with a **** load of cap space.

We're gonna have some shoring up to do on an already thin D.

And to those of you with the derp'y "good he sucks, anyways" responses, y'all better hope McClay and Vital have been scouting the hell out of the lower-tier FA market (not directed at you, Stash)
 

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Clearly took the money over winning, good call loser.
 

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1/28. Obi Melifonwu SS Connecticut...come on down!!!!:dance:

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And will gladly take the comp pick as well.....:popcorn:

I like him, but with so many holes now, I don't think we can afford to spend another 1st rounder on a safety.

Someone needs to be talking to Wilcox, Mo, and Carr though. Can't fill that many holes in one draft, and I hope the FO doesn't think they are the Pats cause they aren't. We need players.
 

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I don't believe he's the 2nd best safety on the market.
You dont but the scouts do and everywhere I have looked he was considered the 2nd best SS on the market... from roto

The second best safety on the market, Church reportedly received interest from a "number of teams" before landing in Jacksonville.

All I am asking is how do they upgrade now way Jefferson is coming here...Wilcox? You can't count on the draft the player may be gone...Cyprian....he sucked and is worse than Church...just saying all this wait till next year talk from some...this team could look like a lava rock by he end of the week with all the holes
 

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Yup. We're getting trashed with these team's with a **** load of cap space.

We're gonna have some shoring up to do on an already thin D.

And to those of you with the derp'y "good he sucks, anyways" responses, y'all better hope McClay and Vital have been scouting the hell out of the lower-tier FA market (not directed at you, Stash)

And this is where we diverge.

I don't think there is a massive gap in play between Church and say some lower guys in FA. Especially when one considers now what Church got in FA. Even if we had cap space, I wouldn't want to pay Church $6MM+.
 

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You dont but the scouts do and everywhere I have looked he was considered the 2nd best SS on the market... from roto

The second best safety on the market, Church reportedly received interest from a "number of teams" before landing in Jacksonville.

All I am asking is how do they upgrade now way Jefferson is coming here...Wilcox? You can't count on the draft the player may be gone...Cyprian....he sucked and is worse than Church...just saying all this wait till next year talk from some...this team could look like a lava rock by he end of the week with all the holes

Scouts? Which ones?

For example, I saw Greg Cosell do an analysis of the FA safeties and Church was 7th on his list. Granted Berry was #1 and he's now off the market.
 

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And this is where we diverge.

I don't think there is a massive gap in play between Church and say some lower guys in FA. Especially when one considers now what Church got in FA. Even if we had cap space, I wouldn't want to pay Church $6MM+.

With this draft, I'm taking a safety in the top 3 rounds anyway.

Between a draft pick and Frazier, Church is a mediocre progress stopper. It was time to move on anyway.
 

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And this is where we diverge.

I don't think there is a massive gap in play between Church and say some lower guys in FA. Especially when one considers now what Church got in FA. Even if we had cap space, I wouldn't want to pay Church $6MM+.

Oh, I agree, brother. No way do we pay Church that.

Syd, I'm more concerned about the holes created than the actual players leaving (for the most part, I'd like to keep Wilcox and TMac -- but I saw what you posted on him, so we diverge a bit there, too). We have a thin D, it's gonna have to be a very productive offseason.
 
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