Claiborne, Mathieu or Peterson?

[theogt]

Patrick Peterson might already be the best cb in the league. Based on work-thus-far, Peterson

Dooooo whatttt?

 

[Idgit]

I haven't seen enough of Peterson recently, but he struggled as a rookie. I know he's supposed to have gotten a lot better. I think Mo's ahead of his pace, but I don't think he's physically comparable, overall. If Peterson's trajectory really is upward, he's probably going to be the better player.
I think both he and Mo are going to be considerably better players than the Honey Badger, though I have heard, too, he's wowing people in camp. Too soon to tell for all of them, though.

 

[arglebargle]

Yep, Peterson's ability as a return man eclipsed his cornerback play in his first year. If Claiborne improves as much in his second year as Peterson did, Cowboys' fans will be happy campers.

 

[TheFinisher]

Peterson, and that's not a knock on Mo... he's just a freakish talent.

 

[dstovall5]

I'd say Patrick Peterson and it won't even be close. Not only is Patrick Peterson a top CB in the league already, he's also one of the better returners in the league. The kid is a stud. As of right now, there's only 2-3 CBs better then Patrick Peterson, and Peterson also does returns.

Best career
1)Patrick Peterson
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2)Morris Claiborne
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3)T.M.

 

[Tawney88]

If a CB is drafted with a top ten pick, he better be a playmaker. Peterson has been a playmaker since day one. Mo is looking like another Tnew to me. He is simply not on the same level as Peterson. Mo was second best in college and he will never be on Peterson's level in the pros.

I agree, I don't get how people say Mo is better than Peterson already. It just folks looking at our players with rose colored glasses.

 

[CowboysToTheBone]

Peterson is special, Mo can be great, Mathieu can be great if can stay out of trouble.

 

[theogt]

I haven't seen enough of Peterson recently, but he struggled as a rookie. I know he's supposed to have gotten a lot better. I think Mo's ahead of his pace, but I don't think he's physically comparable, overall. If Peterson's trajectory really is upward, he's probably going to be the better player.
I think both he and Mo are going to be considerably better players than the Honey Badger, though I have heard, too, he's wowing people in camp. Too soon to tell for all of them, though.

He lucks into a lot of INTs, but I wouldn't put him in the top 30 corners in the league. Claiborne had a better 2013 campaign by just about every coverage statistic other than INTs.

 

[CyberB0b]

He lucks into a lot of INTs, but I wouldn't put him in the top 30 corners in the league. Claiborne had a better 2013 campaign by just about every coverage statistic other than INTs.

You don't luck into 7 picks dude. Get real.

 

[JonJon]

Has Claiborne had any wow moments as a Cowboy? Not that it is indicative of skill level at CB, but I can't recall any moments in game or in practice that really stood out to me.

 

[theogt]

You don't luck into 7 picks dude. Get real.

Hey, you could actually watch the plays. But that may be too much for you. I did it earlier in the offseason to see if he was *THAT* good. Or just that lucky.

Week 2 (vs. Patriots) - Tipped ball at the LOS. Comes down about 5 yards from where Peterson was standing when tipped.
Week 5 (vs. Rams) - Two rushers blitz completely unblocked. Rams QB lobs it up in the air as the rushers are 2 feet from him, and the pass comes down right to Peterson completely uncontested.
Week 6 (vs. Bills) - Bills QB lobs it deep. The throw is so far inside, the Bills WR didn't even attempt to get the ball. Goes right to Peterson.
Week 12 (vs. Rams) - Rams QB throws in to TRIPLE coverage in the endzone. Peterson comes down with it.
Week 13 (vs. Jets) - Deep pass down the middle. Peterson reaches over receiver and snags the INT. This is the ONLY interception that was impressive.
Week 14 (vs. Seahawks) - Seattle QB throws a duck down the sideline. The receiver falls down coming back to the ball. Pass goes right into Peterson's lap.
Week 15 (vs. Lions) - Lions QB overthrows the receiver by about 5 yards down the sideline. It's so far overthrown the Lions WR doesn't even attempt to catch the ball. Peterson is behind the receiver and on the outside of the receiver (between the receiver and the sideline). Just happens to be in the perfect position to make the catch.

Seven passes. Five of them were wild throws or poor decisions by the QB. One of them was a tipped pass. And only one was an actual play made by Peterson. There is no way around it -- he was simply in the right place at the right time on six plays in 2012.

By and large, interceptions in the NFL are due to bad passes, tipped passes or receivers falling down -- not due to GOOD plays by the defender. It's about luck and being in the right place at the right time. It's not something you can teach, and it's not something that physical skills can actually cause happen.

 

[dallasfan4lizife]

Mathieu reminds me of a young cortland finnegan. If he can be that caliber of player with where they drafted him, then it's a steal.

I haven't heard of Mo being spectacular in practice, considering they hype coming out of the draft. I remember Bryant coming in as a rookie and amazing people with his athleticism and raw skills.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Patrick Peterson might already be the best cb in the league. Based on work-thus-far, Peterson

Anyone that has claiborne in front of Peterson is a homer. Peterson has already proven to be the real deal at both corner and special teams. Unreal. Claiborne has had one season and it was not that impressive. Given he is a rookie, no way can you put him in front of peterson based on what we have seen.

 

[dfan32]

Peterson
Claiborne
Honey badger

This is where I would rank them as well.
Pederson is electrifying. He makes big plays everywhere and has the instincts and athleticism. And speed to burn.

Claiborne is a great CB, good instincts and physical skills.

Honeybadger, great instincts and has some unbelievable moves when he gets the ball in his hands. Fun to watch him return kicks. But his stature will most likely shorten his career. He's just really little...

 

[theogt]

Anyone that has claiborne in front of Peterson is a homer. Peterson has already proven to be the real deal at both corner and special teams. Unreal. Claiborne has had one season and it was not that impressive. Given he is a rookie, no way can you put him in front of peterson based on what we have seen.

I think, statistically speaking, Claiborne will be more likely to have a pass not completed to the receiver he is covering than Peterson will over the next 5 years.
Some might say that means I think he's better (or will be better) than Peterson. Maybe that makes me a homer. But I'd be willing to put a fairly large amount of money on that result playing out.

 

[CyberB0b]

Hey, you could actually watch the plays. But that may be too much for you. I did it earlier in the offseason to see if he was *THAT* good. Or just that lucky.

Week 2 (vs. Patriots) - Tipped ball at the LOS. Comes down about 5 yards from where Peterson was standing when tipped.
Week 5 (vs. Rams) - Two rushers blitz completely unblocked. Rams QB lobs it up in the air as the rushers are 2 feet from him, and the pass comes down right to Peterson completely uncontested.
Week 6 (vs. Bills) - Bills QB lobs it deep. The throw is so far inside, the Bills WR didn't even attempt to get the ball. Goes right to Peterson.
Week 12 (vs. Rams) - Rams QB throws in to TRIPLE coverage in the endzone. Peterson comes down with it.
Week 13 (vs. Jets) - Deep pass down the middle. Peterson reaches over receiver and snags the INT. This is the ONLY interception that was impressive.
Week 14 (vs. Seahawks) - Seattle QB throws a duck down the sideline. The receiver falls down coming back to the ball. Pass goes right into Peterson's lap.
Week 15 (vs. Lions) - Lions QB overthrows the receiver by about 5 yards down the sideline. It's so far overthrown the Lions WR doesn't even attempt to catch the ball. Peterson is behind the receiver and on the outside of the receiver (between the receiver and the sideline). Just happens to be in the perfect position to make the catch.

Seven passes. Five of them were wild throws or poor decisions by the QB. One of them was a tipped pass. And only one was an actual play made by Peterson. There is no way around it -- he was simply in the right place at the right time on six plays in 2012.

By and large, interceptions in the NFL are due to bad passes, tipped passes or receivers falling down -- not due to GOOD plays by the defender. It's about luck and being in the right place at the right time. It's not something you can teach, and it's not something that physical skills can actually cause happen.

I am sure you can do a similar breakdown for Ed Reed, too. You just wasted a bunch of time typing that, as it is asinine.

 

[theogt]

I am sure you can do a similar breakdown for Ed Reed, too. You just wasted a bunch of time typing that, as it is asinine.

I don't think it was a waste. Talking out of pure ignorance is a waste of time, and you seem to have plenty of time to kill.

 

[tantrix1969]

based on the body of work we have seen on each so far this is a no brainer

Peterson

Mo



Honey badger

 

[Wood]

Out of Morris Clairborn, Tyrann Mathieu and Patrick Peterson, which one will have the best career. The worst career?

Tyrann Mathieu is projected to start against the cowboys, and is wowing people in camp supposedly.

I'm predicting Patrick Peterson has the best career from what I saw in college and NFL thus far, with Tyrann Mathieu close behind.

Peterson - best NFL career.
Mathieu - mabye most dynamic single season somewhere along the way (but I think he will sabotage himself at some point).
Claiborne - most steady career.

 

[DFWJC]

Peterson by a mile.