Coach Jerry Jones may keep Elliott out vs Seahawks

Macnalty

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They are going to have to widen the doors at the new death star once Jerry is add to the HOF in Canton just to fit his head and ego.
 

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When the interviewer asked, "Will you let Zeke play"?, Jerry thought he said, "Will you have a petite filet"? Jerry answered "Rare, very rare indeed". :muttley:
 
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Could be the Stephen and Garrett combo...fun to watch!

I honestly think Jerry defers on field to Garrett. I think he deferred to Wade as well. Jerry makes a lot of comments but I think many of the comments come out the meetings he attends with the coaches. Clearly acquiring players he is going to have a say and I think much of that is based on information from scouts, coaches and Stephen. I don't think Jerry is trying to be a 1 man show.

Because he is GM I don't remove any blame from him, it goes with the job. Just based on comments from past coaches I think Jerry gives the HC freedom to make the calls on the field without interfering
 

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If I am Garrett and it's my intention to play Zeke and Jerry overruled me. I have my letter of resignation on his desk the next day.
 

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I honestly think Jerry defers on field to Garrett. I think he deferred to Wade as well. Jerry makes a lot of comments but I think many of the comments come out the meetings he attends with the coaches. Clearly acquiring players he is going to have a say and I think much of that is based on information from scouts, coaches and Stephen. I don't think Jerry is trying to be a 1 man show.

Because he is GM I don't remove any blame from him, it goes with the job. Just based on comments from past coaches I think Jerry gives the HC freedom to make the calls on the field without interfering

I remember the Dunbar fiasco, Jerry and Stephen saying they need to see more of him on the field and in the offense and shortly thereafter there he is accordingly.

I have no idea how those dynamics work but I do see Stephen becoming more chummy with Garrett in recent years, perhaps there is more trust there now.
 

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I remember the Dunbar fiasco, Jerry and Stephen saying they need to see more of him on the field and in the offense and shortly thereafter there he is accordingly.

I have no idea how those dynamics work but I do see Stephen becoming more chummy with Garrett in recent years, perhaps there is more trust there now.

I recall Garrett being high on Dunbar and still is. I think the kid has talent but just can't stay off the injury list.
 

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I honestly think Jerry defers on field to Garrett. I think he deferred to Wade as well. Jerry makes a lot of comments but I think many of the comments come out the meetings he attends with the coaches. Clearly acquiring players he is going to have a say and I think much of that is based on information from scouts, coaches and Stephen. I don't think Jerry is trying to be a 1 man show.

Because he is GM I don't remove any blame from him, it goes with the job. Just based on comments from past coaches I think Jerry gives the HC freedom to make the calls on the field without interfering
I agree to a certain extent. However in all Jerry's interviews, have you ever heard him answer, "I don't know or I'll have to check with the staff"? Jerry always has an answer whether its true or he understands it or not he'll never defer to anyone else. Now does he do it in meetings and war rooms, I think so. He'll never do it in the public eye as a sign of weakness. Not saying it's wrong or right, just who he is.
 

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Just for us keeping score at home:

If Zeke plays and gets hurt, Jerry was right.

If Zeke plays and does well, Jason was right.

Or can neither ever be right because whatever they choose to do is always the wrong choice.

I've never been good at the blame games so somebody in this thread needs to teach me how to play.
 

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I recall Garrett being high on Dunbar and still is. I think the kid has talent but just can't stay off the injury list.

He was to an extent but was not really part of the offense until Jerry and Company noticed the obvious.

He has value as we have seen in recent years, when utilized as part of the offense on a regular basis and as you rightly point out, stays on the field.
 

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First off, this isn't the first rodeo that many of us have been on the Cowboys wagon since they came into existence. I was a College player at the US Air Force Academy, with Ben Martin, who replaced Bill Parcells as the head coach there.

I played, after my first season, at Texas A&I, due to not being pilot qualified, (glasses), and going back to a civilian school.

I have been through four Basics, during my military career, as well as receiving certification and the job of Master Fitness Training while in the Army.

I am well acquainted with the training and conditioning effect to team work...but there is more to the storyline than showing up for game three in the Exhibition Games.

Bill Parcells, for the record, had a standard that all are required to make showing of being able to handle their job slot. But that didn't also mandate periods of rehab for certain players. He was flexible and tried to protect his own players as well.

To the point, if Zeke Elliott shows up in two to three series in this Thursday game...and possibly a quarter in the 4th, fans would watch their 'prized' player to their satisfaction...but I'm not labeling any of the developments as foolish or stupid, for Jason Garrett or Jerry Jones. That's just where facts actually sit.
I certainly appreciate all of your accomplishments and expertise on this subject.

I am just leery of the 'anointing oil' being taken out for a guy who hasn't played a down in the league. This isn't college anymore and there is adjustments for everyone. Practice speed vs. preseason game speed vs. regular season game speed are all different adjustments.

He needs a good dose of step 2 before he goes to step 3 imo.
 

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Gosh, thanks Jerry. I was considering buying tickets to the game but now that I know Zeke won't play, I can spend the money on something worthwhile.

By the way, you were being considered for the Hall of Fame because of your superior business skills? You contributed to making more money?

Not today.
 

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It would be nice if he took a few hits before the season.....When was his last contact...the bowl game...
 

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As a business man love Jerry love what he has done for the NFL.
As an owner he is great
As a GM Jerry time to ****.
Even if he orders the coach to keep a player out he should keep it inside his office.

Everytime someone says Jerry's a great owner but an awful GM, despite the fact the owner is the one who hired and retains the GM, I want to throat punch somebody.
 

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Jerry's quote was before the Garrett press conference today that confirmed he would play. Jerry likely did not see the game plan before his interview, so was not sure if Zeke would play or not.

That's it. Paint whatever picture you need then pretend it's reality.

Jerry Jones. Completely out of the loop of what's going on. He should probably check with Will McClay before doing these interviews.
 

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They are going to have to widen the doors at the new death star once Jerry is add to the HOF in Canton just to fit his head and ego.

The man puts up his own quotes in his new building. I've never seen a bigger ego in my life. He might be the only person on the planet who could be an NFL owner winning Super Bowls and be "miserable".

He's sick.
 

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You guys are falling for click bait.

He said he's seen enough to know that Zeke is the real deal.
 

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If RBs getting injured so frequently was a big concern, then they shouldn't have used the 4th pick on a RB.

In fact, that was an argument made by numerous people here before the draft. That given the injury situations regarding TBs, using the 4th pick on one probably wasn't a wise use of that pick.

And yet here we are, people saying you gotta be careful with TBs because they get hurt a lot. You just can't make this stuff up.
Yup.
 

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If RBs getting injured so frequently was a big concern, then they shouldn't have used the 4th pick on a RB.

In fact, that was an argument made by numerous people here before the draft. That given the injury situations regarding TBs, using the 4th pick on one probably wasn't a wise use of that pick.

And yet here we are, people saying you gotta be careful with TBs because they get hurt a lot. You just can't make this stuff up.

They want to try to have it both ways.

And they can't.

It's the same as the 'Zeke bandwagon' suddenly trying to tell everybody to 'tap the brakes' when it came to having high expectations. Leading up to the draft, he was 'all world' and would 'lead the league in rushing as a rookie', and afterwards, it was a better backpedaling job than any cornerback in the league.

But I do think that this is much ado about nothing as it sounds like Jerry was just uninformed yet again but has to say something, even if he doesn't know the actual answer.

It sounds like Elliott will play. And he absolutely should.
 
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