Cobb at 9mill vs Dez at 15mill

[BlindFaith]

Im not denying that. But when you have a team with Aaron Rodgers, Jordy Nelson and Eddie Lacy its easy for Cobb to be expendable if you are a DC. Where as, we have Dez, Murray and Romo. Eliminate Dez and we have Murray and Romo. I wouldnt game plan against Witten Williams and Beasely. Thats what im saying.

Add Cobb and they would game plan against him. And you don't think DCs gameplan against stopping our run game? And you don't think DC gameplan against what Witten can do? He may not be a dynamic type player, but he's clearly Romos security blanket and I guarantee you that teams know that and try to prevent him from getting the ball.

 

[KJJ]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...dall-cobb-reportedly-wants-9-million-per-year
Randall Cobb reportedly wants $9 million per year

I'd be running up to him with a check immediately and would be telling Dez thanks, and good luck. Heck, with the savings you could now sign Murray if you wanted to. I probably wouldn't, unless he's willing to settle for 4mill per, but the team might think otherwise.

Cobb would give us more of a deep threat along with being able to play multiple positions.

You would be paying a receiver 9M per who's only had one real productive season. Most of these deep threat speed receivers don't pan out once they leave in free agency look at Mike Wallace. The Cowboys made the mistake of paying a receiver big cash (Miles Austin) for one good season. Honestly I'm not sure Romo has quite the arm to take advantage of what Cobb does best like Aaron Rodgers can. Cobb benefits from having a QB with a very quick release and a strong arm. I'm not saying Romo doesn't have a good arm so let's not go there but Rodgers release and arm strength is as good as it gets and I believe Cobb is more of a product of Aaron Rodgers than anything else.

 

[phildadon86]

Add Cobb and they would game plan against him. And you don't think DCs gameplan against stopping our run game? And you don't think DC gameplan against what Witten can do? He may not be a dynamic type player, but he's clearly Romos security blanket and I guarantee you that teams know that and try to prevent him from getting the ball.

Im not saying that. But Cobb as a number one is a significant drop off from dez as a number 1. Dez is always double covered sometimes triple covered. Sorry cobb is not Dez Bryant. Id rather pay the extra 3 million for dez

 

[JoeKing]

Franchising him at 13 mill is a huge deal. It give no cap flexibility in spreading out his hit over multiple years. And Dez wants the guaranteed money. You think he's going to be happy getting the tag? Do you want an unhappy Dez on this team for even one year?

It's not about what Dez wants. Dallas holds all the cards. Who cares about anything beyond two years? Dallas needs to do all they can for two years to keep the current roster together. Tag Dez two years. After Romo retires, it makes no sense to sign Dez unless he will agree to a team friendly contract.

 

[BlindFaith]

Im not saying that. But Cobb as a number one is a significant drop off from dez as a number 1. Dez is always double covered sometimes triple covered. Sorry cobb is not Dez Bryant. Id rather pay the extra 3 million for dez

You mean the extra 4mill, and that's to tag him. So no cap relief and an unhappy Dez, who has already hinted at sitting out if that happens.

 

[BlindFaith]

It's not about what Dez wants. Dallas holds all the cards. Who cares about anything beyond two years? Dallas needs to do all they can for two years to keep the current roster together. Tag Dez two years. After Romo retires, it makes no sense to sign Dez unless he will agree to a team friendly contract.

If you tag him he counts 13mill against the cap this year. I'd rather sign him to his 15 mill a year and whatever guaranteed money he wants. That way we could lower the cap hit for him these next two years and then go complete super nova on the cap when him and Romos bills are due.

Option A is to get Cobb at 9mill per with a modest guarantee.

 

[rpntex]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...dall-cobb-reportedly-wants-9-million-per-year
Randall Cobb reportedly wants $9 million per year

I'd be running up to him with a check immediately and would be telling Dez thanks, and good luck. Heck, with the savings you could now sign Murray if you wanted to. I probably wouldn't, unless he's willing to settle for 4mill per, but the team might think otherwise.

Cobb would give us more of a deep threat along with being able to play multiple positions.

It wouldn't matter if Dallas had that extra $6M that Cobb would save them - they're not using that difference to pay Murray. This isn't about having cap space available...it's about how much the RB position is valued.

 

[KJJ]

Dez makes Romo a better more a efficient QB than a receiver like Cobb would. Dez makes the tough contested catch in traffic he can turn a less than perfect pass into a spectacular catch you're not going to get that with Cobb nor are you going to get those TD's on fades that are virtually impossible to defend with Dez. The Cowboys don't need to replace a Michael Irvin with a Joey Galloway. I'm not saying a deep speed threat wouldn't be nice but I want that threat opposite Dez not replacing him.

There's too many things that Dez brings to the field that Cobb doesn't to make a move like that sensible. It's not like Cobb is going to come cheap himself and who knows how he would fit in with the Cowboys offensive philosophy and what kind of chemistry he and Romo would have. Roy Williams didn't workout in Dallas and that was a costly move to bring him in. We know it works with Dez we have 5 years of consistency with him.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

If we need a 5-10 ft speedy receiver, we could draft one im guessing if need be.

 

[JoeKing]

If you tag him he counts 13mill against the cap this year. I'd rather sign him to his 15 mill a year and whatever guaranteed money he wants. That way we could lower the cap hit for him these next two years and then go complete super nova on the cap when him and Romos bills are due.

Option A is to get Cobb at 9mill per with a modest guarantee.

No I completely disagree. Good luck with that.

 

[TheFinisher]

Should rename this thread "Playoffs for 15 Million vs No Playoffs for 9 Million"

At least missing the playoffs with Cobb would be cheaper...

 

[BigStar]

Are you saying that he couldn't put up the numbers he did this year with our QB? And he wasn't "featured" in Green Bay. Jordy Nelson would be that guy.

Cobb would get TW treatment here (after thought) and not sniff those numbers. Look how creative this team is is getting the ball to their #1, yet alone their #2 (sit routes).

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

Are you saying that he couldn't put up the numbers he did this year with our QB? And he wasn't "featured" in Green Bay. Jordy Nelson would be that guy.

Disagree. Jordy seems to be their home run guy. They're both excellent but Cobb is their money guy as evidenced in our playoff game. Cobb is in the backfield, slot, split out.. he moves the chains and hurts you with RAC. He's also tremendous in the redzone.

 

[xwalker]

If we need a 5-10 ft speedy receiver, we could draft one im guessing if need be.

Cobb is not Dez but he is a terrific player,. He's much more than a small speed WR. He is almost unstoppable on the slant route. He's the modern Steve Smith.

Cobb was 11th in yards despite being the #2 WR. Nelson was #4 and Dez was #8.

 

[Alexander]

If we need a 5-10 ft speedy receiver, we could draft one im guessing if need be.

Crowder, Montgomery or Lockett are not any less talented IMO.

 

[bayeslife]

Cobb isn't 1/5 the player Dez is.

 

[visionary]

Im not denying that. But when you have a team with Aaron Rodgers, Jordy Nelson and Eddie Lacy its easy for Cobb to be expendable if you are a DC. Where as, we have Dez, Murray and Romo. Eliminate Dez and we have Murray and Romo. I wouldnt game plan against Witten Williams and Beasely. Thats what im saying.

Lol
Can you remind us how much the number 1 WR on that team (jordy Nelson) is making?
Will Dez take that deal?

 

[phildadon86]

Lol
Can you remind us how much the number 1 WR on that team (jordy Nelson) is making?
Will Dez take that deal?

Really? Comparing Jordy Nelson to Dez Bryant? My God, how mistaken I was, lets let go of Bryant and sign Cobb immediately.

 

[visionary]

Really? Comparing Jordy Nelson to Dez Bryant? My God, how mistaken I was, lets let go of Bryant and sign Cobb immediately.

Don't try to dodge my question

Will Dez take the Nelson deal?
Not on your life

 

[perrykemp]

Cobb isn't 1/5 the player Dez is.

I dunno. He is pretty darn good.

24 years old with 227 catches, for 3049 yards and 25 TDs as a slot WR.

The 9.3 yards per carry when running the ball ain't nothing to sneeze at either.

All that despite missing 12 games in his career.

Anyway, Dez is a better player (and should be paid more), however, that doesn't mean there isn't a lot to admire about Cobb.

How often does a 24 year player like Cobb hit the market as a unrestricted free agent?