Cobb at 9mill vs Dez at 15mill

[LandryFan]

Cobb is not Dez Bryant./quote]

 

[LandryFan]

then draft Dorial Green Beckham to replace Dez' size

I would stay far away from DGB. He makes Dez's pre-draft issues look like nothing.

 

[phildadon86]

Hard to argue with Nelson's 98 receptions for 1519 yards and 13 TDs for $9.75m/year.

In all honesty, yards arent really that important to me. If you can name me a better red zone target, who takes a double team or triple team on every snap, and has the ability to change a game single handedly with remarkable catches then Dez Bryant right now you'll have made your point. 56 Touchdowns in 3 years is nothing short of incredible.

 

[visionary]

Lol, good look with that

It's not luck, it's called common sense

 

[perrykemp]

In all honesty, yards arent really that important to me. If you can name me a better red zone target, who takes a double team or triple team on every snap, and has the ability to change a game single handedly with remarkable catches then Dez Bryant right now you'll have made your point. 56 Touchdowns in 3 years is nothing short of incredible.

I think what you are saying is that productivity doesn't matter to you much....

Highlight real catches, etc are great and make everyone excited but at the end of the day you still have to move the ball down the field not only with the spectacular catches but also large amounts of the mundane catches.

I don't think there is any real arguement that Dez isn't a superior player to Nelson (and obivously Cobb), however, I do think it's worth looking at the what other teams are paying for WR productivity.

Packers are paying very reasonable money for Nelons's production. Patriots are paying very reasonable money for Edelman's production. etc.

 

[ufcrules1]

So you're saying that Romo isn't good enough to get him the ball like Rodgers did?

Don't be silly. Romo is not Rodgers. Rodgers is easily the best QB in the NFL right now.

 

[BlindFaith]

Cobb ran a 4.46 40, Dez ran a 4.52 40? Cobb might run faster at the combine in shorts but Dez plays faster/bigger. Cobb is more of a quick shifty slot WR than straight out burner, so people need to stop implying that's his role. His closer to Cole Beasley. In no universe is Cobb ever going to replace Dez as a #1 WR

Cobb ran an electronic timed 4.46 at the combine. Dez didn't even work out at the combine. He ran a 4.52, 4.68, and 4.52 hand held time at his pro day. Add at least a tenth of a second to that to get a comparable electronic time. So realistically he's probably a 4.6 guy at best.

And Calvin Johnson ran an electronic timed 4.35.

 

[ufcrules1]

I think what you are saying is that productivity doesn't matter to you much....

Highlight real catches, etc are great and make everyone excited but at the end of the day you still have to much the ball down the field not only with the spectacular catches but also large amounts of the mundane catches.

I don't think there is any real arguement that Dez isn't a superior player to Nelson (and obivously Cobb), however, I do think it's worth looking at the what other teams are paying for WR productivity.

Packers are paying very reasonable money for Nelons's production. Patriots are paying very reasonable money for Edelman's production. etc.

Excellent post. I love Dez very much but want to be realistic with what we pay him. If Cobb is getting 9 million, does should be somewhat close to that.

 

[ufcrules1]

Cobb ran an electronic timed 4.46 at the combine. Dez didn't even work out at the combine. He ran a 4.52, 4.68, and 4.52 hand held time at his pro day. Add at least a tenth of a second to that to get a comparable electronic time. So realistically he's probably a 4.6 guy at best.

And Calvin Johnson ran an electronic timed 4.35.

Personally I would rather Dez over Cobb. I see Cobb more as a slot receiver. At 5'10 he can't pull off the type of catches Dez can. Dez is worth more money for sure but we shouldn't break the bank on him either. If he loves the Cowboys as much as he says he does, he should give them somewhat of a break to stay here. He doesn't have to be the highest paid WR in the NFL. He needs to ask himself if he wants to get a ring or not.

 

[BlindFaith]

In all honesty, yards arent really that important to me. If you can name me a better red zone target, who takes a double team or triple team on every snap, and has the ability to change a game single handedly with remarkable catches then Dez Bryant right now you'll have made your point. 56 Touchdowns in 3 years is nothing short of incredible.

Cobb had 10 of his 13 TDs come in the redzone. Dez...8.

 

[phildadon86]

I think what you are saying is that productivity doesn't matter to you much....

Highlight real catches, etc are great and make everyone excited but at the end of the day you still have to move the ball down the field not only with the spectacular catches but also large amounts of the mundane catches.

I don't think there is any real arguement that Dez isn't a superior player to Nelson (and obivously Cobb), however, I do think it's worth looking at the what other teams are paying for WR productivity.

Packers are paying very reasonable money for Nelons's production. Patriots are paying very reasonable money for Edelman's production. etc.

Now here's the problem. Romo isn't Brady or Rodgers. He doesn't have the arm to air it out to Jordy. You have to take that into account. I'd much rather have dez who can turn a 5 yard slant pass into a 60 yd td then Jordy who gets open 50 yards down field and romo misses him

 

[phildadon86]

Cobb had 10 of his 13 TDs come in the redzone. Dez...8.

Cobb had had 1 good year. Dez has had 3

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Larry Fitzgerald just signed a new deal with the Cards.

7 year / $113,000,000 contract with the Arizona Cardinals, including a $10,000,000 signing bonus, $27,000,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $16,142,857.

 

[Wood]

It will be interesting to see what the market supports this year. The huge money contracts, at least for awhile, are done I suspect. I don't think we are going to see a lot of CJ contracts in the near future. Could be wrong but I don't think so. It's just not good business.

I think Dez and Demaryius Thomas follow same trajectory.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think Dez and Demaryius Thomas follow same trajectory.

I can see that Wood. Definitely a possibility.

 

[Frozen700]

Cobb is not Dez Bryant. He's also featured in a pass happy offense with the leagues best QB.

No, Leagues Best QB is Brady. Rodgers is number 2.

I agree with you though. Cobb is a bum compared to Dez. He also benefited from Jordy hogging up all the attention.

 

[skinsscalper]

Larry Fitzgerald just signed a new deal with the Cards.

7 year / $113,000,000 contract with the Arizona Cardinals, including a $10,000,000 signing bonus, $27,000,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $16,142,857.

It's basically a two year $11,000,000 deal.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It's basically a two year $11,000,000 deal.

Pretty much. Az would still be on the hook for the remainder of his signing bonus, which is spread out over 4 years but yeah.

 

[skinsscalper]

Pretty much. Az would still be on the hook for the remainder of his signing bonus, which is spread out over 4 years but yeah.

Cap hit would be roughly 5 million after two years pre-June 1st cut and 2.5 after, no? Not bad to keep a team guy like that in the fold, I suppose. I've always admired Fitz. Seems like a good guy

 

[Wood]

I think what you are saying is that productivity doesn't matter to you much....

Highlight real catches, etc are great and make everyone excited but at the end of the day you still have to move the ball down the field not only with the spectacular catches but also large amounts of the mundane catches.

I don't think there is any real arguement that Dez isn't a superior player to Nelson (and obivously Cobb), however, I do think it's worth looking at the what other teams are paying for WR productivity.

Packers are paying very reasonable money for Nelons's production. Patriots are paying very reasonable money for Edelman's production. etc.

I have felt Nelson contract is one best contracts in all of football considering his production. It's not surprising to see the good teams (GB, NE) locking in these very friendly contract. In last 15 years there has been only one contract I felt Dallas finally started acting like a team in charge and that was Tyron Smith deal. Lets see if they can use that momentum and continue with team friendly contracts.