Cole Beasley dropping knowledge

Dre11

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So that’s the only time you fire a coach? When the team quits?

Results be damned. If the players like the coach but he shows limited results, it’s not his fault...... it’s the players’.

Got it.

Jerry probably wishes he knew this a few years ago. He could have save a crap ton in coaching salaries. He could have just gone cheap with coaches just as long as the players thought the coaches were cool dudes.


You've had the same damn results for 22 years, how many damn coaches are you firing for same freaking results. You went HOF coach to bum coach(campo) and got the same results
 

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I'll put money on the things that are run are base packages, and vanilla plays. There no game planning whatsoever

So we’ve gone from running none of their offense to now running their base offense.

LOL
 

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What's dumb is fools, who think the coach, has some control over whether a player goes out on the field and makes a mistake. Its human nature...lol

Actually the fool is the one who thinks coaches have no influence on whether a team generally plays consistent football.

Your argument is basically coaches don’t really matter.
 

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You've had the same damn results for 22 years, how many damn coaches are you firing for same freaking results. You went HOF coach to bum coach(campo) and got the same results

So we’ve just had 22 years of dumb players who just make mistakes?

The actual answer is Jerry has done a pretty crappy job of hiring head coaches. Campo, Gailey, Garrett, Phillips...... Parcells was the best of the lot but Jerry plucked him out of retirement.
 

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So we’ve gone from running none of their offense to now running their base offense.

LOL

Did you miss the NEW offense in my post. And when I say base, I'm talking vanilla football.
 

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Actually the fool is the one who thinks coaches have no influence on whether a team generally plays consistent football.

Your argument is basically coaches don’t really matter.

On game day, they have no control of how a player plays or execute, that's on the player. Fact.
 

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So we’ve just had 22 years of dumb players who just make mistakes?

The actual answer is Jerry has done a pretty crappy job of hiring head coaches. Campo, Gailey, Garrett, Phillips...... Parcells was the best of the lot but Jerry plucked him out of retirement.

And Parcells did squat. So is Beasley lying?
 

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Jimmy Johnson said you put the ball in the hands of the playmakers because they make plays, ergo the name. But he had irvin, novacek, aikman and emmitt. We have no Irvin, novacek or aikman equivalents. Only zeke. And this coaching staff can never be confused with Johnson and company. Futures looking mighty glum.
 

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So do coaches matter or not?

Coaches do matter in the management and leadership of a team and scheme. All that other bs is overrated. The execution of the scheme on gameday is on the players.
 

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More knowledge for you, So what damn position are you putting Tyron smith in so he doesn't hold? Or so a player doesn't blow by him? How about l Collins? How about Heath dropping int? That sounds stupid, stop buying into cliches.


https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...anthers-confirms-some-things-disproves-others

So according to You coaches never have blame in players not executing year after year? Who runs the training camp? Who runs the practices? Who decides who plays? In your scenerio coaches could never take any blame then for play on the field since they aren't physically on the field?
 

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On game day, they have no control of how a player plays or execute, that's on the player. Fact.

They actually can.

For example, when a LT is getting beat like a turnstile, you change the player or give him more help and make adjustments to play calling to mitigate his weaknesses.

You literally seem to be saying the coach does basically nothing. He calls plays. That’s it.
 

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So according to You coaches never have blame in players not executing year after year? Who runs the training camp? Who runs the practices? Who decides who plays? In your scenerio coaches could never take any blame then for play on the field since they aren't physically on the field?

Are they out there running the plays?
 

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Coaches do matter in the management and leadership of a team and scheme. All that other bs is overrated. The execution of the scheme on gameday is on the players.

This is ridiculous.

But totally expected from a pro-Garrett fan.
 

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So do coaches matter or not?


Good question. Not sure what Marinelli was teaching but maybe they should try reverse psychology next time.


"Hey huddle up guys and listen... don't worry about Cam taking off running all the time because contrary to popular belief, we actually don't observe him doing that very much on tape."

Then just walk away.
 

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They actually can.

For example, when a LT is getting beat like a turnstile, you change the player or give him more help and make adjustments to play calling to mitigate his weaknesses.

You literally seem to be saying the coach does basically nothing. He calls plays. That’s it.

So you pull Tyron Last week? Sean Lee? Dak?
 

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So every staff we've had has been mediocre? Because the best offenses we've had since Jimmy, has been Garrett's. That's Fact.

Different era and different team. This is a pass happy league with different rules. You believe Garretts offense was better because of stats??? Are you high? Cowboys offense when Jimmy coached was superior to Garretts offense in talent, execution and results. Results as in winning Super Bowls. Stats are for losers.
 
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