Twitter: Colin: Gap between Dak and Dalton is not massive

[OmerV]

Dak, has the potential to be better. I am not talking about the number of sacks, it is more about timing. Some sacks are unavoidable, but he can throw the ball away most of the time. Not counting this year, he averages about 34 sacks a year. In my base opinion, he can be better. We all know that all interceptions, are not due to just the QB, and does not have many. It is just the timing of some of those interceptions that I don't understand.

Sure Dak can be better. I wouldn't, and didn't, suggest otherwise. But he had a career low sack total in 2019, and was on pace for his second best year in 2020 before the injury, and that is even with a depleted O-Line, so he is getting better in that department. Remember that 34 sack average is skewed by the anomaly year I mentioned - the 56 sacks in 2018 is the only year he actually had as many as 34 sacks. 2019 he dropped to 23 sacks, so I have to believe that was something Dak and the team worked on.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Many that don't understand (or don't care) the significance in Prescott being Dallas' QB often suggest this but I've yet to hear a real answer as to how specifically that will happen. Just posting that they can spend 40 million on defense sounds like a solution, but it's awfully vague and it doesn't solve a single thing.

Sorry, I dont understand the significance. Please explain.

He's a QB, who's good and good value during the first 4/5 years of the contract. He'd be a great addition to a team that's close to competing and the Colts appear perfect for him.

But there's a valid argument that we arent going to challenge for the next 3+ years as the defense has so many holes to challenge for championships, therefore why continue to pay $35m on a QB and ignore the fundamentals of D-Line and serviceable back-ups for a suspect O-Line.

 

[OmerV]

These stats can’t be correct either, because Dak has 4 INTs this year and has played five games. They actually gave Dak less INTs.

And as an aside, 3 of the 4 INTs, were when Dallas was behind 1 to 8 points, meaning the game was tight. Dalton on the other hand has 5 TDs and 1 INT in this situation.

Dak’s TOs were contributing to opposition building up significant leads. He also had 3 fumbles in 5 games. Dalton has 2 fumbles in 10 games.

Dak. only threw 4 passes when above 9 points, meaning Dak’s numbers were never when ahead. Dalton on the other hand is 19 of 28 when up by 9-16 points, meaning when Dallas is winning big and the games are essentially over, his stats drop. I mean Dalton and Moore could pad stats if they wanted, but there is no need taking risks. It’s all about burning time off the clock and preventing TOs.

There is way too much here that is innacurate, incomplete or skewed to go into, but I will make these comment because they are the most obvious …

1. Of those Dak INT's, one was on a ball batted at the line of scrimmage, one was a hail mary, and one was where Cooper cut his route short. Only one involved a play where Dak made a poor choice, and that was near the end of the first half, so it's not as if it was not as it were what the game hinged on.

2. I noticed that while you indicated TD's Dalton had while within 1-8 points, you omitted the same stat with Dak. Considering all but one of the games Dak played in was decided by less than 8 points, Dak clearly had his share of these TD's as well. My bet is he had more than Dalton's 5 TDs in those situations despite starting 4 fewer games.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

27 MIL under the cap. It isn’t going up.
Reality is a biotch for you, son.

so answer the question my boy, are you planning to build a defense through FA? give us some names. how much you plan to give each? you know the routine

and who is going to be your QB come game 1 of 2021?

the cap is going up in 2022, 2023 and significantly in 2024...I assume you know that....right? if you didn't then you just learned...you are welcome

and I assume you have paid enough putting the porn down long enough to notice that contracts get reworked and cap room gets created.....right? you are aware...

hurling insults and meaninless drivel without any details makes you look as amateurish as you seem to come across.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Dak can soothe your mouth.

so answer the question my boy, are you planning to build a defense through FA? give us some names. how much you plan to give each? you know the routine

and who is going to be your QB come game 1 of 2021?

the cap is going up in 2022, 2023 and significantly in 2024...I assume you know that....right? if you didn't then you just learned...you are welcome

and I assume you have paid enough putting the porn down long enough to notice that contracts get reworked and cap room gets created.....right? you are aware...

hurling insults and meaninless drivel without any details makes you look as amateurish as you seem to come across.

It’s not up to me to fix the Jones fustercluck.
They did this, not me.
The reality of their mess is there is 27 million in available cap space today, no real viable way to free up any kind of serious money to increase it and a middling QB who wants a Russell Wilson contract. Hell, right now today, DAL would have a hard time just signing “Stats” to his next tag.

It’s not going to be a good offseason for your inferiority complex. Hang tough, you’ll get through this.

 

[streetcredit]

so answer the question my boy, are you planning to build a defense through FA? give us some names. how much you plan to give each? you know the routine

and who is going to be your QB come game 1 of 2021?

the cap is going up in 2022, 2023 and significantly in 2024...I assume you know that....right? if you didn't then you just learned...you are welcome

and I assume you have paid enough putting the porn down long enough to notice that contracts get reworked and cap room gets created.....right? you are aware...

hurling insults and meaninless drivel without any details makes you look as amateurish as you seem to come across.

Leonard Williams

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Leonard Williams

How much is the cost?

How much better would defense be?

Who is your QB?

How much does he cost?

How do you compensate for drop in QB play?

What about 6 or 7 other defensive positions that need upgraded?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

It’s not up to me to fix the Jones fustercluck.
They did this, not me.
The reality of their mess is there is 27 million in available cap space today, no real viable way to free up any kind of serious money to increase it and a middling QB who wants a Russell Wilson contract. Hell, right now today, DAL would have a hard time just signing “Stats” to his next tag.

It’s not going to be a good offseason for your inferiority complex. Hang tough, you’ll get through this.

Are the cowboys the only team in the league that have to deal with this years cap? What about 2022, 2023, 2024?

You say it's Jones problem to fix. But you say you don't want Dak....so if it's Jones problem to.fix, why are u screaming about not wanting Dak and 27 m cap space

 

[Starforever]

Sure Dak can be better. I wouldn't, and didn't, suggest otherwise. But he had a career low sack total in 2019, and was on pace for his second best year in 2020 before the injury, and that is even with a depleted O-Line, so he is getting better in that department. Remember that 34 sack average is skewed by the anomaly year I mentioned - the 56 sacks in 2018 is the only year he actually had as many as 34 sacks. 2019 he dropped to 23 sacks, so I have to believe that was something Dak and the team worked on.

Don't get me wrong, I like Dak, but I look for the bright spots to shine on this team. Since he and Zeke were drafted, they have been my hopes to get this team rolling.

 

[Section446]

Don't get me wrong, I like Dak, but I look for the bright spots to shine on this team. Since he and Zeke were drafted, they have been my hopes to get this team rolling.

How has that worked out? Have we been "rolling" since they got drafted? Serious question...

 

[Starforever]

How has that worked out? Have we been "rolling" since they got drafted? Serious question...

Rolled in 2016, been in reverse since that time.

 

[Section446]

Rolled in 2016, been in reverse since that time.

And that's my primary issue with Dak and quite frankly, Zeke. They both had a historic rookie season, the question wasn't whether they'd win a Super Bowl but how many they'd win. Unfortunately, they both appear to have hit their proverbial ceiling in 2016 and neither seems to have made much in the way of progress.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Over your head. There was 5 seasons, 4 that Prescott got paid nothing and the idiotic staff couldn't solidify other areas. Now all of a sudden they can?

I think this might be over your head actually, but I'll continue. Dak has only had 3 games under MM. So what the Garret/Marinelli regime did with extra cap space or advised Jerry to do with the cap is completely irrelevant to MM and his staff. You have no clue what they will do with cap space. But, your willing to take away any flexability they may have to remake this team....... and go with Dak sucking up more of the cap, surround him with less talent, and go dumpster diving on defense again to plug holes. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

 

[Adreme]

And that's my primary issue with Dak and quite frankly, Zeke. They both had a historic rookie season, the question wasn't whether they'd win a Super Bowl but how many they'd win. Unfortunately, they both appear to have hit their proverbial ceiling in 2016 and neither seems to have made much in the way of progress.

First off if you think Dak has not taken MASSIVE strides as a QB since 2016 then you have no idea how to evaluate a QB (hint using wins is the WORST metric to evaluate a QB and is only a media narrative because its simple to digest for fans who do not understand football well). Zeke has sort of been stagnant and had a bad year this year, but Dak is leaps and bounds better as a football player than he was in 2016. Whether you support paying him or not that simple fact is not in doubt.

 

[atlantacowboy]

The other problem is DAL has no real way to restructure in any meaningful way to open up significant money. Redoing a deal or two isnt going to make any real difference and there’s no guarantee players would agree anyways.
DAL is a bad team with overpriced players and thin depth with a QB who wants “elite” money.
Oh, and the cap is not going up.

Exactly, giving Dak the huge pay day hamstrings a team that desperately needs a makeover.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

How has that worked out? Have we been "rolling" since they got drafted? Serious question...

so anything less than 13-3 is unacceptable?

 

[Section446]

First off if you think Dak has not taken MASSIVE strides as a QB since 2016 then you have no idea how to evaluate a QB (hint using wins is the WORST metric to evaluate a QB and is only a media narrative because its simple to digest for fans who do not understand football well). Zeke has sort of been stagnant and had a bad year this year, but Dak is leaps and bounds better as a football player than he was in 2016. Whether you support paying him or not that simple fact is not in doubt.

Ah, the old "if you don't agree with my opinion, you don't know hwo to evaluate talent" argument, huh? Classic keyboard warrior talk.

 

[Section446]

so anything less than 13-3 is unacceptable?

No, it can be 9-7 as long as it ends in a Super Bowl victory.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Exactly, giving Dak the huge pay day hamstrings a team that desperately needs a makeover.

does the offense need a make over? lets be clear given your very general statement....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

No, it can be 9-7 as long as it ends in a Super Bowl victory.

so any QB that doesn't get superbowls is not worthy...just trying to see your measure of success

and just because Dak didn't get superbowl in the first 4 years, does it mean he will not get a superbowl? is that in general true for all QBs and how we should measure them?