Twitter: Colin: Gap between Dak and Dalton is not massive

[USArmyVet]

Funny to watch so many defend Dak to the end yet can't see that this team has been crap with or without Dak.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Many that don't understand (or don't care) the significance in Prescott being Dallas' QB often suggest this but I've yet to hear a real answer as to how specifically that will happen. Just posting that they can spend 40 million on defense sounds like a solution, but it's awfully vague and it doesn't solve a single thing.

Available cap dollars solves a lot of problems in the NFL. Instead of dumpster diving for salvage projects like Aldon Smith and Dontari Poe and counting on them to improve the defense, you can go out in the market and bid on higher quality players. The only thing vague here is how you get to a super bowl with a 40M QB who has barely managed a .500 record even surrounded by more offensive weapons than any Qb in the league. What we are doing now isn't working and its pretty dam clear.

 

[G2]

Available cap dollars solves a lot of problems in the NFL. Instead of dumpster diving for salvage projects like Aldon Smith and Dontari Poe and counting on them to improve the defense, you can go out in the market and bid on higher quality players. The only thing vague here is how you get to a super bowl with a 40M QB who has barely managed a .500 record even surrounded by more offensive weapons than any Qb in the league. What we are doing now isn't working and its pretty dam clear.

For 5 seasons, Prescott hasn't made 40 million. So that point is moot. Not to mention we were 27+ million under the cap we were and the staff STILL didn't sign any big name.
And, that still doesn't answer the question. It's a generic answer that doesn't illustrate a specific answer.

 

[OmerV]

I for one, believes that Dak would be much better, if he would modify his play to mirror the greats. When Dak gets a play called in, he hardly ever improvises. His interceptions, at times, are mindless.



Wow, finally some relevant conversation. Dak, is slower reading the defense, and his holding on to the ball and taking sacks, is detrimental to the team. Having said that, Dak is the current and future QB, in Dallas; unless he wants to leave.

Of DAk's 4 INT's this year, one was tipped at that line of scrimmage, one was a hail mary, one Cooper stopped on the route, and one was a poor decision at the end of the first half. Dak may have things to improve on, but INT's have never been a big problem.

As for sacks, without question in 2018 he had a problem holding the ball too long and took way too many sacks. It wasn't a huge problem before that, and has been less of a problem since, so this part of your post is based on an anomaly year 3 seasons ago.

As for improvisation, Dak has certainly shown he can leave the pocket and either run or look for other receivers. And he goes through his progressions, which is where the "holding the ball too long" problem came from in 2018. Is he as good at improvising as, say, Mahomes, and Rodgers, or as good at making reads and going through progressions as, say, Brady …? No, he is not, and will never be. But if a team can't find a way to win without guys who do those things at that level almost every team could not win. Falling short of that level does not condemn a QB.

 

[Rockport]

God egg on your face huh pup.

 

[Qcard]

 

[jterrell]

Every National show has 1 guy who's job is to hate the Cowboys and 1 who's job is to defend them.
For a single host show the guy flips sides and invites guests to take the other role.

Skippy Bayless was an anti-Cowboy a human as exists when he was in Dallas.
He left it became profitable to take on a pro Cowboys role as Stephen A legit hates the team who demolished his hometown guys basically his entire life.

FS1 comes along and offers Skip a zillion dollars to recreate that show with Shannon Sharpe and voila... nonsense.

Other media guy look at those contracts and are like well heck yes I will play a clown on TV for 10M a year.

 

[Starforever]

Of DAk's 4 INT's this year, one was tipped at that line of scrimmage, one was a hail mary, one Cooper stopped on the route, and one was a poor decision at the end of the first half. Dak may have things to improve on, but INT's have never been a big problem.

As for sacks, without question in 2018 he had a problem holding the ball too long and took way too many sacks. It wasn't a huge problem before that, and has been less of a problem since, so this part of your post is based on an anomaly year 3 seasons ago.

As for improvisation, Dak has certainly shown he can leave the pocket and either run or look for other receivers. And he goes through his progressions, which is where the "holding the ball too long" problem came from in 2018. Is he as good at improvising as, say, Mahomes, and Rodgers, or as good at making reads and going through progressions as, say, Brady …? No, he is not, and will never be. But if a team can't find a way to win without guys who do those things at that level almost every team could not win. Falling short of that level does not condemn a QB.

Dak, has the potential to be better. I am not talking about the number of sacks, it is more about timing. Some sacks are unavoidable, but he can throw the ball away most of the time. Not counting this year, he averages about 34 sacks a year. In my base opinion, he can be better. We all know that all interceptions, are not due to just the QB, and does not have many. It is just the timing of some of those interceptions that I don't understand.

 

[Qcard]

Every National show has 1 guy who's job is to hate the Cowboys and 1 who's job is to defend them.
For a single host show the guy flips sides and invites guests to take the other role.

Skippy Bayless was an anti-Cowboy a human as exists when he was in Dallas.
He left it became profitable to take on a pro Cowboys role as Stephen A legit hates the team who demolished his hometown guys basically his entire life.

FS1 comes along and offers Skip a zillion dollars to recreate that show with Shannon Sharpe and voila... nonsense.

Other media guy look at those contracts and are like well heck yes I will play a clown on TV for 10M a year.

Yes sir!! Cowboy hating/love debate in $$$ for TV sponsors.

I am just surprised some fans can't or won't see through the façade.

 

[atlantacowboy]

For 5 seasons, Prescott hasn't made 40 million. So that point is moot. Not to mention we were 27+ million under the cap we were and the staff STILL didn't sign any big name.
And, that still doesn't answer the question. It's a generic answer that doesn't illustrate a specific answer.

What point is moot? We are 27M under the cap right now. The entirety of that 27M will be eaten up when we sign Dak or tag him again. So, that leaves us zero options for signing anyone and more dumpster diving on defense.........which got us 6-10 despite playing in the worst division in football. The team was mediocre with him making 500k. It was worse with him making 30+M this year. There is no path forward with him making 40M and having less cap money to spread around the rest of the roster. This was the worst defense the cowboys have ever put on a football field. You cannot go into 2021 without some huge upgrades and expect a different result.

 

[G2]

What point is moot? We are 27M under the cap right now. The entirety of that 27M will be eaten up when we sign Dak or tag him again. So, that leaves us zero options for signing anyone and more dumpster diving on defense.........which got us 6-10 despite playing in the worst division in football. The team was mediocre with him making 500k. It was worse with him making 30+M this year. There is no path forward with him making 40M and having less cap money to spread around the rest of the roster. This was the worst defense the cowboys have ever put on a football field. You cannot go into 2021 without some huge upgrades and expect a different result.

Over your head. There was 5 seasons, 4 that Prescott got paid nothing and the idiotic staff couldn't solidify other areas. Now all of a sudden they can?

 

[ShaneFalco]

What point is moot? We are 27M under the cap right now. The entirety of that 27M will be eaten up when we sign Dak or tag him again. So, that leaves us zero options for signing anyone and more dumpster diving on defense.........which got us 6-10 despite playing in the worst division in football. The team was mediocre with him making 500k. It was worse with him making 30+M this year. There is no path forward with him making 40M and having less cap money to spread around the rest of the roster. This was the worst defense the cowboys have ever put on a football field. You cannot go into 2021 without some huge upgrades and expect a different result.

The other problem is DAL has no real way to restructure in any meaningful way to open up significant money. Redoing a deal or two isnt going to make any real difference and there’s no guarantee players would agree anyways.
DAL is a bad team with overpriced players and thin depth with a QB who wants “elite” money.
Oh, and the cap is not going up.

 

[America's Cowboy]

The other problem is DAL has no real way to restructure in any meaningful way to open up significant money. Redoing a deal or two isnt going to make any real difference and there’s no guarantee players would agree anyways.
DAL is a bad team with overpriced players and thin depth with a QB who wants “elite” money.
Oh, and the cap is not going up.

So what is your solution???

Get rid of your best player...your stud QB while keeping the rest of the overpaid bums who have not lived up to their new contracts???

You don't get it. You should keep your stud QB while working on both parties creating a reasonable contract, while getting rid of your overpriced players who have failed to live up to their highly overpaid new contracts. Rebuild by drafting well, then sign a reasonably priced veteran or two where needed.

It's way much harder to find a stud QB than it is finding a stud player at another position.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Available cap dollars solves a lot of problems in the NFL. Instead of dumpster diving for salvage projects like Aldon Smith and Dontari Poe and counting on them to improve the defense, you can go out in the market and bid on higher quality players. The only thing vague here is how you get to a super bowl with a 40M QB who has barely managed a .500 record even surrounded by more offensive weapons than any Qb in the league. What we are doing now isn't working and its pretty dam clear.

so you are advocating to build a defense through FA? when was the last time taht worked? where we fail is in Draft. if we drafted well, we wouldn't need to go dumpster diving....when you don't draft well, then you have to go the FA route and no good player will really hit the market. those available are old, injured, head cases or reclamaition projects......there isn't enough money on the cap to go get a few top end players. until we fix out defensive draft problem everything is moot. if we had 35M on the cap we couldnt' fix a defense that needs 7 to 8 starters.....will it help? yes, but you then have to deal with the massive crater you created at QB and the offensive woes to follow....

fix the dang defensive draft problems.....until then. this is as good as it gets.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The other problem is DAL has no real way to restructure in any meaningful way to open up significant money. Redoing a deal or two isnt going to make any real difference and there’s no guarantee players would agree anyways.
DAL is a bad team with overpriced players and thin depth with a QB who wants “elite” money.
Oh, and the cap is not going up.

we have 7 of the top paid players in their positions on the team...what you say is simply not true.....
the problem is not the QB pay...the problem is needing 7 or 8 defensive starters because we missed draft after draft after draft. if we had the 30M, we would create a crater of a hole at QB, and only be able to sign 1.5 impact defensive player if, and that's a big IF they are available because no team is crazy enough to let their elite defensive players hit the market....perhaps you think Clowney wanting 16M a year is an elite player.....

 

[ShaneFalco]

So what is your solution???

Get rid of your best player...your stud QB while keeping the rest of the overpaid bums who have not lived up to their new contracts???

You don't get it. You should keep your stud QB while working on both parties creating a reasonable contract, while getting rid of your overpriced players who have failed to live up to their highly overpaid new contracts. Rebuild by drafting well, then sign a reasonably priced veteran or two where needed.

It's way much harder to find a stud QB than it is finding a stud player at another position.

Your premise is that you have a “stud” QB. LOL
Dak isn’t. He’s a middle tier QB. Unfortunately middle tier QBs like Cousins get paid.
And the cap is what it is. DAL can’t get rid of these players. They are stuck unless they take seriously low end draft picks and just dump them and they still represent dead cap. That doesn’t solve anything. What’s done is done. Jerry paid those guys and now there’s not enough money to go around. No chair left for Dak. So he got himself an agent who is going to maximize his financial situation. They are using the Cousins method. It’s that simple. Hell, DAL doesn’t have the money to sign Dak anyways. Just saying, “Oh some guys are going to redo their contracts and make space” is not an answer.
Im betting Gallup gets traded for a 2 as well. He’s up soon too.
And there’s 13-15 teams who would rather just pay him because they’ve seen the production and he’s proven than draft a WR in the 2nd.

 

[ShaneFalco]

we have 7 of the top paid players in their positions on the team...what you say is simply not true.....
the problem is not the QB pay...the problem is needing 7 or 8 defensive starters because we missed draft after draft after draft. if we had the 30M, we would create a crater of a hole at QB, and only be able to sign 1.5 impact defensive player if, and that's a big IF they are available because no team is crazy enough to let their elite defensive players hit the market....perhaps you think Clowney wanting 16M a year is an elite player.....

27 MIL under the cap. It isn’t going up.
Reality is a biotch for you, son.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Your premise is that you have a “stud” QB. LOL
Dak isn’t. He’s a middle tier QB. Unfortunately middle tier QBs like Cousins get paid.
And the cap is what it is. DAL can’t get rid of these players. They are stuck unless they take seriously low end draft picks and just dump them and they still represent dead cap. That doesn’t solve anything. What’s done is done. Jerry paid those guys and now there’s not enough money to go around. No chair left for Dak. So he got himself an agent who is going to maximize his financial situation. They are using the Cousins method. It’s that simple. Hell, DAL doesn’t have the money to sign Dak anyways. Just saying, “Oh some guys are going to redo their contracts and make space” is not an answer.
Im betting Gallup gets traded for a 2 as well. He’s up soon too.
And there’s 13-15 teams who would rather just pay him because they’ve seen the production and he’s proven than draft a WR in the 2nd.

That's where you and your clan are wrong. Dak is a stud QB. YOU guys simply don't get it. Dak's numbers and tape prove as much. Even coaches, scouts and current and ex-players all say the same thing about Dak being a stud QB. Are you saying you Dak haters on CZ are right and everyone else who are professionals are wrong?

Stop embarrassing yourselves.

 

[ShaneFalco]

That's where you and your clan are wrong. Dak is a stud QB. YOU guys simply don't get it. Dak's numbers and tape prove as much. Even coaches, scouts and current and ex-players all say the same thing about Dak being a stud QB. Are you saying you Dak haters on CZ are right and everyone else who are professionals are wrong?

Stop embarrassing yourselves.

Even Dak can’t soothe your butthurt. LOL

 

[America's Cowboy]

Even Dak can’t soothe your butthurt. LOL

Dak can soothe your mouth.