Comics and Movies

[DallasEast]

That looks really terrible.

 

[Streifenkarl]

Confused about Marvel's new direction?

Here are some Youtubes I found showing what is confirmed. More cancellations confirmed than anything. All those post-credit sequences and large timelines they like to present at conventions mean squat now. If a movie flops, they don't continue. Disney Plus is the big loser. They say it costs too much to do the FX on those with no theater profit. They are trimming the fat. Most of the obscure characters or spin-offs are going away unless it was already made. Keeping it simple, more like the first Marvel movies.

Deadpool 3 is the only movie this year and they're using the famous Deadpool 4th wall comedy as a device to also redesign the storylines. Was the only movie they were confident enough to release this year as they scrap and re-do the whole MCU franchise.







Confirmed cancelled movies:

• Antman 4 (Antman 3 didn't do well enough)
• Eternals 2 (First one didn't receive well. Was only supposed to be an X-Men alternative, but they have rights to it now.)
• Avengers 5: Kang Dynasty (Avengers 5 still on, Jonathan Majors out but rumors of re-casting, Avengers 5 still on but no one knows official story)
• A-Force (the female Avengers movie, think of that scene in last Avengers movies where they are all fighting together, Captain Marvel 2 was the girl power test and didn't do well)
• Captain Marvel 3 (see above)

Confirmed cancelled Disney Plus series:

• Ironman Armor Wars (too expensive
• She-Hulk Season 2 (too expensive)
• Echo Season 2 (too obscure)

Confirmed cancelled one-shots (these were supposed to be short movies on Disney Plus, mostly cancelled because too expensive or just want to simplify):

• Silver Surfer
• Scarlett Witch vs Agatha
• Sentry (was supposed to be origin story to setup Thunderbolts movie, will be merged into it)
• Ghost Rider (rumor is goes to Doctor Strange sequel or Midnight Sons movie)
• Vision

Confirmed greenlight movies: (but could change or be cancelled, still greenlit for now though)

• Shang-Chi 2
• Captain America 4 (many re-shoots, pushed back, supposedly Nomad's Capt America character and Captain Marvel the new leaders of Avengers like Iron Man and Capt America were, Red Hulk confirmed)
• Avengers 5 and 6 (supposed to still be doing Secret Wars story, but no Kang, rumor is Doctor Doom is new big bad guy)
• Midnight Sons (see video game, the "dark" avengers)
• Nova (rumor is they may cancel though and merge into the better producing Guardians of Galaxy IV)
• Fantastic Four (see posts here on official cast)
• X-Men
• Spider-Man 4
• Venom 3 (rumor is Spider-Man will be in it too, confirmed as last one but Marvel will keep Kevin Hardy/Venom in other stuff)
• Thor 5
• Thunderbolts (pushed back, but still greenlit)
• Blade (actor reportedly didn't like all the scripts, and finally have one they agree on)

Confirmed greenlight Disney Plus series: (rumor is anything already finished, they will go ahead and release, unlike DC)

• Ironheart (young Ironman version, already finished)
• Daredevil

Supposedly greenlit:

• Young Avengers
• solo Scarlett Witch movie

Craziest rumor:

• DC's Superman actor Henry Cavill is confirmed for a Marvel role but no one knows what it is yet. Some rumors are saying he might be the new Wolverine.

Great collection of Infos, if true.

But this just does it for me. I'm completely done with the MCU or Marvel in general. I never read the comics or knew about this stuff other than what was in the movies. Then Iron Man came and I was hooked until endgame. Now it's all just forced in female Mary sue heroes, PC bullcrap and agendas.

And yes I don't care anymore that I sound like an 80 year old redneck sitting on his porch with a gun on his knees. Just recently cancelled Disney+ too.

It all started with Tony for me and it ended with him too. His story arc was the driver to sit even through the weaker films at times. It's a friggin disgrace to replace him the way they are going to. That alone is enough for me to not watch that stuff anymore. And I even liked the first Captain Marvel movie with it's 90s vibe and Brie did a good job imo. So there was potential. But they had to run it into the ground after that because... well the force is female or whatever.

 

[nobody]

That looks really terrible.

I liked it in the 90's. Coincidentally enough, I rewatched the first couple of episodes a few months ago because they were free on youtube. It had some interesting concepts, but in general was terrible in hindsight. It got cancelled before it could hit its stride though.

 

[DallasEast]

Comic book fans ASSEMBLE! Please do not click below if you have not seen X-Men '97 episode 6 or The Marvels yet.

Spoiler

This last episode has me loving and disliking it at the same time. It excited me the Shi'ar was firmly reintroduced into the series. They were introduced in The Uncanny X-Men franchise title back in the 1970s.

However, it is abundantly clear the reintroduction is tied heavily upon the old Operation: Galactic Storm storyline from the early 1990's. That sucker was HUGE and ran through 15 or more Marvel titles but here's the kicker. The O:GS conflict ran through various titles associated with The Avengers. The mutants were not really in the storyline until AFTER the Shi'ar/Kree War ended.

This is my geeky problem. The Avengers are already in the MCU. Disney/Marvel have the mutants on-track for introduction into the MCU. The 1990's X-Men series DID have an episode featuring a Captain America cameo from World War II connected with Wolverine but that was the only solid loose continuity thread to both animated series. So these are my geeky questions:

Will Marvel insert The Avengers into X-Men '97? Would that course of action be a confirmation both the original and current animated X-Men series, along with what was shown at the end of The Marvels, exist in an alternate reality? And finally, how in the bloody hell can X-Men '97 have future episodes covering the Shi'ar/Kree War WITHOUT The Avengers???

Glad I got all that off my chest.

 

[Runwildboys]

Comic book fans ASSEMBLE! Please do not click below if you have not seen X-Men '97 episode 6 or The Marvels yet.

Spoiler

This last episode has me loving and disliking it at the same time. It excited me the Shi'ar was firmly reintroduced into the series. They were introduced in The Uncanny X-Men franchise title back in the 1970s.

However, it is abundantly clear the reintroduction is tied heavily upon the old Operation: Galactic Storm storyline from the early 1990's. That sucker was HUGE and ran through 15 or more Marvel titles but here's the kicker. The O:GS conflict ran through various titles associated with The Avengers. The mutants were not really in the storyline until AFTER the Shi'ar/Kree War ended.

This is my geeky problem. The Avengers are already in the MCU. Disney/Marvel have the mutants on-track for introduction into the MCU. The 1990's X-Men series DID have an episode featuring a Captain America cameo from World War II connected with Wolverine but that was the only solid loose continuity thread to both animated series. So these are my geeky questions:

Will Marvel insert The Avengers into X-Men '97? Would that course of action be a confirmation both the original and current animated X-Men series, along with what was shown at the end of The Marvels, exist in an alternate reality? And finally, how in the bloody hell can X-Men '97 have future episodes covering the Shi'ar/Kree War WITHOUT The Avengers???

Glad I got all that off my chest.

Another very good episode. I have one question for Storm though: "...starting to heal"???

 

[DallasEast]

Another very good episode. I have one question for Storm though: "...starting to heal"???

You lost me..?

 

[Runwildboys]

You lost me..?

When she smeared the cactus salve on his chest. It immediately healed, and she said something about "It's starting to heal".

 

[DallasEast]

When she smeared the cactus salve on his chest. It immediately healed, and she said something about "It's starting to heal".

Okay. Let me check that out again.

 

[DallasEast]

When she smeared the cactus salve on his chest. It immediately healed, and she said something about "It's starting to heal".

Spoiler

Just spitballing. I re-watched the part of episode 4 when Forge was first bitten for more insight in what I was guessing.

The Adversary is a being who feeds on an individual's negative emotions, especially misery and fear. It was attracted to Forge and Ororo's internal pains. Forge was miserable that his invention designs had been corrupted into hurting fellow mutants. It bit Forge for two reasons. First, deepening Forge's misery through the helplessness of his infection. Second, invoking Ororo's natural claustrophobia and depression over losing her powers while trying to help Forge.

The Adversary miscalculated. He almost broke Storm, twice, but it pushed her beyond her internal fears. It made her regain the hero resolve she had before, which kickstarted her mutant ability. The Adversary created its own defeat. It is immortal, so I would not be surprised if it ever returned at some point.

Back to Forge and your question. Yep. His mother's magical book did have a cure for the demonic infection. The suave healed the wound and toxic growth. However, that was the physical cure. Metaphorically, Ororo told Forge that his internal disillusionment over the harm, he had inadvertently caused her and other mutants because of his genius, was something his mother's medicine could not cure. So, the suave helped start Forge's healing but the actual healing was incomplete. That would be Forge's responsibility to cure on his own.

 

[quickccc]

https://www.cbr.com/rumor-the-og-silver-surfer-will-appear-in-the-fantastic-four/

Norrin Radd's Silver Surfer Rumored to Appear in The Fantastic Four Reboot​

A new rumor claims that the original Silver Surfer will still appear in the Fantastic Four despite Julia Garner's casting.

 

[DallasEast]

https://www.cbr.com/rumor-the-og-silver-surfer-will-appear-in-the-fantastic-four/

Norrin Radd's Silver Surfer Rumored to Appear in The Fantastic Four Reboot​

A new rumor claims that the original Silver Surfer will still appear in the Fantastic Four despite Julia Garner's casting.

ha. Radd's appearance would not surprise me if true. I did assume they may be sticking with the Earth X storyline that contains Norrid and Shalla Bal as Silver Surfers early this month.

This rumor makes me believe that would be their reasoning but my question is why there would not be a casting announcement along with Garner's? I have no clue but it gives me the impression that Norrid's role may by minor in comparison to Shalla Bal's.

It would not be the first time a character was in-and-out of an MCU movie in quick succession. Charlie Cox's Matt Murdoch came-and-went in Spider-Man: No Way Home. Sometimes, I really really dislike cameos.

 

[DallasEast]

 

[DallasEast]

The video includes, "Start your X-Men Journey with 'one of Marvel's best projects ever'" - Forbes. I am not afraid to say it may be true.

This series is far above the Saturday morning cartoon tier from the 1990's, when that show still had enough adult themes to attract older viewers. It is touching upon some past dark mutant storylines that are not being watered down much for the kid audience. For example, what has been shown so far on the topic of genocide has not been glossed over much. I think these initial episodes are leading towards solidly capturing the 18-39 viewer demographic.

Regardless, Wednesday is the first of a three-episode season finale. I expect 'big' things before the eventual cliffhanger.

 

[John813]

Great collection of Infos, if true.

But this just does it for me. I'm completely done with the MCU or Marvel in general. I never read the comics or knew about this stuff other than what was in the movies. Then Iron Man came and I was hooked until endgame. Now it's all just forced in female Mary sue heroes, PC bullcrap and agendas.

And yes I don't care anymore that I sound like an 80 year old redneck sitting on his porch with a gun on his knees. Just recently cancelled Disney+ too.

It all started with Tony for me and it ended with him too. His story arc was the driver to sit even through the weaker films at times. It's a friggin disgrace to replace him the way they are going to. That alone is enough for me to not watch that stuff anymore. And I even liked the first Captain Marvel movie with it's 90s vibe and Brie did a good job imo. So there was potential. But they had to run it into the ground after that because... well the force is female or whatever.

Outside of Deadpool 3, I'm not really hyped for any upcoming movie/series.

Just a poor job of trying to rebuild the hype for the next cast of "superheros". I know why Tony is gone from the main universe but at the same time he was the glue holding it all together for me.

We'll see how the reboot of Xmen does but not holding my breath.

 

[DallasEast]

All 12 Star Wars Movies Ranked By Box Office (Adjusted For Inflation)​

By Lewis Glazebrook and Sean Morrison | Screen Rant
April 30, 2024

The Star Wars franchise has always been a sure bet at the box office, but how do the individual films rank among themselves when adjusting their worldwide grosses for inflation? When the first Star Wars movie was released in 1977, almost no one - George Lucas included - expected the film to be the smash hit that it was... Read more

No. Film (Year), Box Office Return Adjusted For Inflation

12. Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008), $97,344,956
11. Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018), $488,727,876
10. Star Wars: Episode II - Attack Of The Clones (2002), $1,135,056,370
09. Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise Of Skywalker (2019), $1,315,780,719
08. Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016), $1,377,714,495
07. Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith (2005), $1,388,766,822
06. Star Wars: Episode VI - Return Of The Jedi (1983), $1,489,868,097
05. Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (2017), $1,700,302,821
04. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999), $1,925,516,397
03. Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980), $2,040,676,716
02. Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015), $2,735,171,601
01. Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977), $4,016,281,367

 

[Stash]

All 12 Star Wars Movies Ranked By Box Office (Adjusted For Inflation)​

By Lewis Glazebrook and Sean Morrison | Screen Rant
April 30, 2024

The Star Wars franchise has always been a sure bet at the box office, but how do the individual films rank among themselves when adjusting their worldwide grosses for inflation? When the first Star Wars movie was released in 1977, almost no one - George Lucas included - expected the film to be the smash hit that it was... Read more

No. Film (Year), Box Office Return Adjusted For Inflation

12. Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008), $97,344,956
11. Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018), $488,727,876
10. Star Wars: Episode II - Attack Of The Clones (2002), $1,135,056,370
09. Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise Of Skywalker (2019), $1,315,780,719
08. Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016), $1,377,714,495
07. Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith (2005), $1,388,766,822
06. Star Wars: Episode VI - Return Of The Jedi (1983), $1,489,868,097
05. Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (2017), $1,700,302,821
04. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999), $1,925,516,397
03. Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980), $2,040,676,716
02. Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015), $2,735,171,601
01. Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977), $4,016,281,367

I’m personally responsible for a lot of that money!

 

[nobody]

All 12 Star Wars Movies Ranked By Box Office (Adjusted For Inflation)​

By Lewis Glazebrook and Sean Morrison | Screen Rant
April 30, 2024

The Star Wars franchise has always been a sure bet at the box office, but how do the individual films rank among themselves when adjusting their worldwide grosses for inflation? When the first Star Wars movie was released in 1977, almost no one - George Lucas included - expected the film to be the smash hit that it was... Read more

No. Film (Year), Box Office Return Adjusted For Inflation

12. Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008), $97,344,956
11. Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018), $488,727,876
10. Star Wars: Episode II - Attack Of The Clones (2002), $1,135,056,370
09. Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise Of Skywalker (2019), $1,315,780,719
08. Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016), $1,377,714,495
07. Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith (2005), $1,388,766,822
06. Star Wars: Episode VI - Return Of The Jedi (1983), $1,489,868,097
05. Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (2017), $1,700,302,821
04. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999), $1,925,516,397
03. Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980), $2,040,676,716
02. Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015), $2,735,171,601
01. Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977), $4,016,281,367

The Force Awakens was basically copy of A New Hope and benefitted from being a New Star Wars movie in a long time, so it makes sense. Phantom Menace had part of that excuse too. First Star Wars movie in a long time. I guess for May 4 there's a theater here playing all of the Movies in a row... who is crazy enough to sit for like 20 hours in a row in a theater just watching all of that? lol

 

[DallasEast]

I’m personally responsible for a lot of that money!

Me too.

 

[DallasEast]

The Force Awakens was basically copy of A New Hope and benefitted from being a New Star Wars movie in a long time, so it makes sense. Phantom Menace had part of that excuse too. First Star Wars movie in a long time. I guess for May 4 there's a theater here playing all of the Movies in a row... who is crazy enough to sit for like 20 hours in a row in a theater just watching all of that? lol

30 - 35 years ago that nut would have been me.

 

[Stash]

30 - 35 years ago that nut would have been me.

I couldn’t even make it through 3 Back to the Future movies several years ago.

Halfway through Part III, we were like: