Coming around to the idea of keeping the coaching staff as is

[Stash]

I wouldn`t mind Whisenhunt.

He was my hope too. I'll be very interested to see what he does in Tennessee.

While Nero continues to fiddle in Dallas...

 

[CATCH17]

This may sound like I'm rootin for failure but I'm not. I really do hope Garrett proves almost all of us wrong and becomes a great coach overnight.

In regards to the coaching staff I was all for firing everyone at the end of the season even if Garrett is staying. Now I'm leaning more towards just letting Garrett have to same staff as the year prior so the blame cannot be "it's a new system" anymore.

My theory is they will crash and burn next year or at best be mediocre once again and they will clear out the entire staff hire a HC who can then choose his own staff. This year is more of an expected failure but if it works then Jerry gets the credit

This new system excuse was gone years ago.


Plus Monte's system could be taught in about a week to a bunch of middle schoolers. It is not complex at all so players getting used to "Montes system" is a big bunch of BS and i'd bet all of them have played in this style of defense at some point in their career.

 

[Stash]

My original post was more to imply that if we aren't going to fire Garrett they may as well keep the entire staff, let them fail, then let new HC next year actually get to hire his staff.

I was all for kiffin firing till I figured, we don't want to replace his replacement next year when Garrett goes 8-8 again.

I'm still rooting for the team to prove me wrong and Jerry being right about Garrett would make me extremely happy cuz I root for the Star. Not the players or coaches. My opinion is Garrett staying for at least one more year is instead of changing everything again have a little consistency so there are no more excuses

And I believed that was the mantra going into this season.

Injuries were the excuse Garrett got (but somehow Rob Ryan didn't) last year.

This year, it's just a case of lather, rinse, repeat.

I guess whenever this team has injuries it will always have an excuse for shortcomings and failure.

Here's to hoping nobody ever gets hurt in 2014!

Then maybe somebody can actually be held accountable for failure.

 

[justbob]

I seem to have misplaced my optimist and am now wearing my fuzzy hater hat. lol

Thought was a real beard and eyelashes....... Guess I will just keep my neutral hat

 

[big dog cowboy]

8-8 Would be our best case scenario next year. I'm predicting 6-10 or worse.

We went 8-8 this year with the worst defense in the league.

 

[ufcrules1]

We went 8-8 this year with the worst defense in the league.

Yeah, because of our schedule. How many teams did we beat that were over .500 last year? The whole NFC east was terrible. We almost swept it. We caught the Eagles at a good time too.

 

[khiladi]

Man, if 99% of the people on this forum owned this team, including the bigges Garrett homers on this board, JG would be shown out the door for his rotten performance, especially knowing the full inner workings of Valley Ranch and the baby-sitting going onto shield his sorry self. Get out of here, paying this joke like 3 million plus...

 

[Carolina Cowboy]

This is what happens Jerry when you .... a stranger in the ...!!!

 

[Risen Star]

Man, if 99% of the people on this forum owned this team, including the bigges Garrett homers on this board, JG would be shown out the door for his rotten performance, especially knowing the full inner workings of Valley Ranch and the baby-sitting going onto shield his sorry self. Get out of here, paying this joke like 3 million plus...

Not if I owned the team. I wouldn't have any say in the decision of who the head coach is. I'd find the best GM I could find, hand him the keys and get the heck out of his way while he does his job. If, years later, I don't like the direction of the team, I'll fire that GM and bring in another who will have the same authority.

This is what a good owner does.

 

[CrownCowboy]

Garrett has already proven that he doesn't get it. He is in way over his head particularly in the game management department. He lost us games on his decisions alone late in several games that most teams put away in their sleep.

Garrett is not going to magically learn how to win games. He is who he is. Next year will be yet another painful experience.

 

[birdwells1]

Well, it got so bad he hired Parcells, but I have heard that was just to build the new stadium...

 

[Alexander]

None of the coaches that have been hired by other teams have impressed me so far. I don't know who everybody is expecting the next coach to be when they demand Garrett's firing.

Reminds me of the old arguments back in the day with Quincy Carter.

Accept the current performance just because there is not an obvious replacement.

 

[Alexander]

Still the most honest we have heard seen Jerry Jones and are ever likely to hear again.

 

[rpntex]

And I believed that was the mantra going into this season.

Injuries were the excuse Garrett got (but somehow Rob Ryan didn't) last year.

This year, it's just a case of lather, rinse, repeat.

I guess whenever this team has injuries it will always have an excuse for shortcomings and failure.

Here's to hoping nobody ever gets hurt in 2014!

Then maybe somebody can actually be held accountable for failure.

IMO, the deal with Rob Ryan wasn't as much based on performance as it was preparation. How many times did we see his defense scrambling around before the snap just to get lined up in the right place? How many times did we see Dallas line up with 10 or 12 on the field? I even remember one time when we had NINE out there. Luckily, we recognized it and got a TO called before the opposition could run a play.

No, Ryan was disorganized while in Dallas. The main difference between his tenure as DC and Kiffin's has been that at least Kiffin's crew has appeared to be organized. The failure has been in the execution, not the scheme. That certainly can be partially attributed to the lack of experience we had on the defensive side. Ryan had injuries to deal with, too, but even when his starters were there early in the season, we saw the same disarray.

I think we will all be surprised at how much this defense improves if the DL can remain healthy. Thus year, we were playing guys who spent last summer bagging groceries.

 

[Rockport]

Man, if 99% of the people on this forum owned this team, including the bigges Garrett homers on this board, JG would be shown out the door for his rotten performance, especially knowing the full inner workings of Valley Ranch and the baby-sitting going onto shield his sorry self. Get out of here, paying this joke like 3 million plus...

That's because 99% of the people here don't understand that it's not about the coach. It's not about 1 player. The reason this team consistently sucks is Jerry Jones and the atmosphere he's developed at Valley Ranch.

 

[Stash]

IMO, the deal with Rob Ryan wasn't as much based on performance as it was preparation. How many times did we see his defense scrambling around before the snap just to get lined up in the right place? How many times did we see Dallas line up with 10 or 12 on the field? I even remember one time when we had NINE out there. Luckily, we recognized it and got a TO called before the opposition could run a play.

No, Ryan was disorganized while in Dallas. The main difference between his tenure as DC and Kiffin's has been that at least Kiffin's crew has appeared to be organized. The failure has been in the execution, not the scheme. That certainly can be partially attributed to the lack of experience we had on the defensive side. Ryan had injuries to deal with, too, but even when his starters were there early in the season, we saw the same disarray.

I think we will all be surprised at how much this defense improves if the DL can remain healthy. Thus year, we were playing guys who spent last summer bagging groceries.

Don't you find it funny that the 'disarray' did not follow him to New Orleans, where he turned scraps into a top defensive unit?

 

[ShiningStar]

the mere fact no one wants to run to Valley Ranch and burn it down after the Packers game tells me JJ has won in making the fans acceptable of this mess to the point some are convincing themselves that next year is going to be better.

 

[birdwells1]

IMO, the deal with Rob Ryan wasn't as much based on performance as it was preparation. How many times did we see his defense scrambling around before the snap just to get lined up in the right place? How many times did we see Dallas line up with 10 or 12 on the field? I even remember one time when we had NINE out there. Luckily, we recognized it and got a TO called before the opposition could run a play.

No, Ryan was disorganized while in Dallas. The main difference between his tenure as DC and Kiffin's has been that at least Kiffin's crew has appeared to be organized. The failure has been in the execution, not the scheme. That certainly can be partially attributed to the lack of experience we had on the defensive side. Ryan had injuries to deal with, too, but even when his starters were there early in the season, we saw the same disarray.

I think we will all be surprised at how much this defense improves if the DL can remain healthy. Thus year, we were playing guys who spent last summer bagging groceries.

Don't you find it funny that this was conveniently leaked to the media after Ryan's dismissal? Ryan's defense did look confused at times but they look pretty organized in NO. By the way, it was a lot of fingers being pointed at each other after big plays in the secondary this year also.

 

[birdwells1]

Don't you find it funny that the 'disarray' did not follow him to New Orleans, where he turned scraps into a top defensive unit?

Sorry, I kinda posted what you did. lol

 

[birdwells1]

This may sound like I'm rootin for failure but I'm not. I really do hope Garrett proves almost all of us wrong and becomes a great coach overnight.

In regards to the coaching staff I was all for firing everyone at the end of the season even if Garrett is staying. Now I'm leaning more towards just letting Garrett have to same staff as the year prior so the blame cannot be "it's a new system" anymore.

My theory is they will crash and burn next year or at best be mediocre once again and they will clear out the entire staff hire a HC who can then choose his own staff. This year is more of an expected failure but if it works then Jerry gets the credit

I'm this same way with the idea of him calling plays, if he's coaching for his job then he should be able to call his own plays.