Commanders... a mammoth disaster in the making

[BourbonBalz]

A team worse than the Commanders in the NFC? Did you see the Falcons play at all last season by chance? What about the Rams?

Listen, I know you are probably just going off on a Commanders hater rant like every Cowboys fan should, right? The tone of your original post came off like that.

Just to be fair, I am a regular over at Extremeskins.com and I have to listen to many idiotic comments from Commanders fans about how our team is overrated and that we won't ever win a playoff game and all kinds of other nonsense. Being in an environment like that causes you to take a look in your own backyard, so to speak. There seems to be a lot of smack and so little gold between the fans of two teams who have basically had the same lack of success since the last Cowboys SB.

I just wanted to share that perspective so you know where I'm coming from.

Glad you brought up the fact that you're a regular on ES. Just one word? WHY?????? That place is a cesspool and there are a couple of Cowboy fans that act like lapdogs on ES. I can't remember if you're one of them or not, but if so, grow a set and quit kissing their *****. No self-respecting Cowboy fan should post there. Not because it's a Skin's board, but because of the idiots that run it.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Na not really. I have done that plenty on here, and if you are not lazy you can search for my thoughts

I like to only give well thought out responses on here to well thought out posts and topics

Your topic simply deserves a "its been 4,189 days since the Cowboys won a playoff game"

Yea, and during that time span, the Foreskins have accomplished.........NOTHING. If you want to play that game, I'll just say we've won 3 Super Bowls since your boys even sniffed the big game. Look at it this way. Your boys do have some hope. The players may go on strike in a couple more years. :laugh2:

 

[Rampage]

Waaaaaaaaaa

Have you been on the ExtremeSkins site in the last I don't know, 15 mins? Just about every other post is a Cowboys related thread. Talk about obsession much

seriously! this is coming from a fan of a team that has "Dallas week" whenever they play us. talk about obsession.

 

[Brandon]

Quick Question.

Why do Commander fans think they can stand with Cowboys fans? Let alone mention both teams in the same sentence? The Commanders and their fans have always been jealous of the Cowboys. They've been jealous of our players, fans, uniforms, owner and now, jealous of our soon to open 1-billion dollar stadium.

Face it, your team blows and will be a colossal disaster(if not it already is). I thought before the draft that the Eagles were going to be in the NFC East basement for years, and then after, watching your horrific drafting, horrific free agent signings and horrific coaching decisions I revoked my initial response and pegged the Commanders as the worst of the NFC East for the next 10 years. If I were a manager, I would take Kevin Kolb for the future of my team over Jason Campbell in a second.

The Cowboys have players who want to win and players who want to be players. Aren't you jealous that your running back isn't a monster, a player who breaks through 9 tackles on a single play, a player who wants to win it all and players who's hungry? Instead of Marion Barber, your stuck with Clinton Portis, a clown who would rather play dress-up on NFL Network then work his *** off in his home gym. That is always why you sad, sad, sad, Commander fans, will always be #4, to the Dallas Cowboys.

 

[Sonny#9]

The Commanders and their fans have always been jealous of the Cowboys. They've been jealous of our players, fans, uniforms, owner and now, jealous of our soon to open 1-billion dollar stadium.

Face it, your team blows and will be a colossal disaster(if not it already is). I thought before the draft that the Eagles were going to be in the NFC East basement for years, and then after, watching your horrific drafting, horrific free agent signings and horrific coaching decisions I revoked my initial response and pegged the Commanders as the worst of the NFC East for the next 10 years. If I were a manager, I would take Kevin Kolb for the future of my team over Jason Campbell in a second.

The Cowboys have players who want to win and players who want to be players. Aren't you jealous that your running back isn't a monster, a player who breaks through 9 tackles on a single play, a player who wants to win it all and players who's hungry? Instead of Marion Barber, your stuck with Clinton Portis, a clown who would rather play dress-up on NFL Network then work his *** off in his home gym. That is always why you sad, sad, sad, Commander fans, will always be #4, to the Dallas Cowboys.

Feel better?

 

[yeahyeah]

Quick Question.

Why do Commander fans think they can stand with Cowboys fans? Let alone mention both teams in the same sentence? The Commanders and their fans have always been jealous of the Cowboys. They've been jealous of our players, fans, uniforms, owner and now, jealous of our soon to open 1-billion dollar stadium.

Face it, your team blows and will be a colossal disaster(if not it already is). I thought before the draft that the Eagles were going to be in the NFC East basement for years, and then after, watching your horrific drafting, horrific free agent signings and horrific coaching decisions I revoked my initial response and pegged the Commanders as the worst of the NFC East for the next 10 years. If I were a manager, I would take Kevin Kolb for the future of my team over Jason Campbell in a second.

The Cowboys have players who want to win and players who want to be players. Aren't you jealous that your running back isn't a monster, a player who breaks through 9 tackles on a single play, a player who wants to win it all and players who's hungry? Instead of Marion Barber, your stuck with Clinton Portis, a clown who would rather play dress-up on NFL Network then work his *** off in his home gym. That is always why you sad, sad, sad, Commander fans, will always be #4, to the Dallas Cowboys.

I love it...

 

[Green28]

Didn't the Skins make the playoffs last season? Did they lose anything significant in the offseason? Did they improve their primary weakness, WR?

 

[Route 66]

There's still a Commanders franchise?

 

[Hostile]

Didn't the Skins make the playoffs last season? Did they lose anything significant in the offseason? Did they improve their primary weakness, WR?

Be honest, do you think making the playoffs one year guarantees making them the next year? Is it really that simplistic to you?

Do you believe your coaching staff is improved? That has no impact on expectations? I think your Defense is going to disappoint you. I had tremendous respect for Gregg Williams. He's gone.

WR may have been your weakness last year and you may have improved it. Does that mean that coaching can't trip you up? Does that mean your Defense couldn't struggle?

Do you agree with the Washington media that your team last year played on sheer emotion after the death of Sean Taylor? What's the rallying cry this year?

I think think the maroon, black, and yellow are in for a rough year. Not saying you can't surprise, but making the playoffs last year doesn't guarantee you squat.

 

[VCDefectors]

Glad you brought up the fact that you're a regular on ES. Just one word? WHY?????? That place is a cesspool and there are a couple of Cowboy fans that act like lapdogs on ES. I can't remember if you're one of them or not, but if so, grow a set and quit kissing their *****. No self-respecting Cowboy fan should post there. Not because it's a Skin's board, but because of the idiots that run it.

Yes, us Cowboys fans over at ES have to get creative with workarounds to get our point across, but its not so bad. I do it because it is really non-stop entertainment over there. A few really cool people and a whole bunch of ______ !!!!!

If the Cowboys end up having the season most of us think we are going to have, I want front-row seats to the flames, the hate, the excuses, all of the entertainment that comes with ES membership. It's good times!!

 

[AmishGangsta]

Do you agree with the Washington media that your team last year played on sheer emotion after the death of Sean Taylor? What's the rallying cry this year?

I'm just curious, do you think it benefits a team to have one of it's best players murdered?

Sure, they rallied after Taylor’s death, but you make it sound like that's the only reason they made the playoffs last year -- and I see that thrown around a lot on Cowboys forums.

I think such a tragedy does more harm than good to a team. Sure, they likely were playing on off of the emotion and trying to win for their fallen team mate, but they were also just as likely to be worn out and disturbed from the whole thing as well.

Do you agree?

 

[Idgit]

Didn't the Skins make the playoffs last season? Did they lose anything significant in the offseason? Did they improve their primary weakness, WR?

They lost Joe Gibbs. Given recent history, I would agree with you that they didn't lose anything significant. Then again, they picked up Zorn, so they didn't add anything of any significance, either.

 

[Ren]

Didn't the Skins make the playoffs last season? Did they lose anything significant in the offseason?

Gregg Williams...

 

[Hostile]

I'm just curious, do you think it benefits a team to have one of it's best players murdered?

Just curious, did I say that it benefitted your team that he was murdered?

Sure, they rallied after Taylor’s death, but you make it sound like that's the only reason they made the playoffs last year -- and I see that thrown around a lot on Cowboys forums.

No, I didn't. You just want to be ultra sensitive and are focusing on that. I think I also gave credit to your coaching staff and even singled out the DC.

I think such a tragedy does more harm than good to a team. Sure, they likely were playing on off of the emotion and trying to win for their fallen team mate, but they were also just as likely to be worn out and disturbed from the whole thing as well.

I'm going off of comments by his teammates that they were feeding off of the emotions of his loss. You want to disagree with that, then disagree with them too. There's nothing at all wrong with the team rallying around a teammate's loss like that. Ever heard of "win one for the Gipper?"

I'm not at all sure why the idea that they did is a bit offensive to you.

Do you agree?

My comments above would suggest a no.

 

[zrinkill]

you make it sound like that's the only reason they made the playoffs last year

The Commanders were 5-6 and ready to roll over for the rest of the season when Sean Taylor died ....

They won 4 in a row, only losing the game right after his death (probably because they were still in shock)

They showed a lot of pride and had a "win it for Sean" attitude.

Also the teams that played against them had to have a hard time getting "up" for the games because of the pity they felt for what happened.

Unfortunately when it came playoff time ..... the other teams stopped playing nice.

It was almost the exact opposite of what happened in Dallas ...... with regrettably the same conclusion.

 

[AmishGangsta]

Just curious, did I say that it benefitted your team that he was murdered?

Well, that's certainly what it looked like you were implying. As if the Commanders needed another tragedy to get a rally cry going this year. -- not to mention the fact that, I just asked you if you thought a tragedy does more harm than good for a team; you disagreed.

Surely they rallied behind their player. I mean, what else is a team supposed to do in that situation? I think players of professional sports teams always have some sort of rallying cry -- ie "we're not respected", "we need to rebound", "we can't let our guard down etc..." But I think it takes more than a rally for a team to be successful; obviously, in a circumstance like the one last year, a team must be a strong group of players to make it through such a tragedy.

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I'm going off of comments by his teammates that they were feeding off of the emotions of his loss. You want to disagree with that, then disagree with them too. There's nothing at all wrong with the team rallying around a teammate's loss like that. Ever heard of "win one for the Gipper?"

No, I didn't. You just want to be ultra sensitive and are focusing on that. I think I also gave credit to your coaching staff and even singled out the DC.

If I were ultra sensitive about it, I wouldn't post at all. It's just an idea I see get tossed around a lot -- by Cowboys fans mostly, and I was curious as to where you were going with that.

You mentioned that this was an idea written by a member of the Washington media? Where is this article? Because I think if someone were to write something like that, they'd likely be thrown out of town.

 

[AmishGangsta]

The Commanders were 5-6 and ready to roll over for the rest of the season when Sean Taylor died ....

They won 4 in a row, only losing the game right after his death (probably because they were still in shock)

Also the teams that played against them had to have a hard time getting "up" for the games because of the pity they felt for what happened.

Unfortunately when it came playoff time ..... the other teams stopped playing nice.

So let me get this straight. The Skins win four games in a row because other teams felt bad for them? But then when the playoffs came around
they started playing again?

Come on bro. Certainly you don't actually believe that do you? Really?

 

[zrinkill]

So let me get this straight. The Skins win four games in a row because other teams felt bad for them? But then when the playoffs came around
they started playing again?

Come on bro. Certainly you don't actually believe that do you? Really?

A combination of other teams not getting "up" to play them and their "lets do it for Sean" attitude is why they won.

You really think its anything else? When they went from a 5-6 team to a 9-7 team without their best player?

 

[AmishGangsta]

A combination of other teams not getting "up" to play them and their "lets do it for Sean" attitude is why they won.

You really think its anything else? When they went from a 5-6 team to a 9-7 team without their best player?

3 out of the 4 teams the Skins beat in that rally were playoff teams (in the hunt). So I very seriously doubt that -- Minnisota for example -- would risk being eliminated from the playoffs so they wouldn't hurt the Commanders feelings.

Same with the Giants -- at that time, they weren't even guaranteed a playoff spot. The Skins game was a must win for them, because everyone assumed they would lose to the Patriots the following week.

The Skins went on a similar rally in 2005, without any notable tragedies (if I remember correctly).

That seemed to be a staple of Gibbs II, get in trouble early on, and then force yourself into winning out. Even before the tragedy there were talks about having to win the rest of their games.

In that time period, many other things happened. They were changing their offensive philosophy and letting their players play more, as opposed to being so conservative. Campbell was injured; Collins became the starter and out-performed him; they were getting some of their injured players back healthy.

Now, I'm not arguing that they didn't rally behind the tragedy -- that much is obvious -- I'm saying that, if you think the tragedy did the skins some kind of favor, you're kidding yourself.

 

[Hostile]

Well, that's certainly what it looked like you were implying. As if the Commanders needed another tragedy to get a rally cry going this year. -- not to mention the fact that, I just asked you if you thought a tragedy does more harm than good for a team; you disagreed.

Surely they rallied behind their player. I mean, what else is a team supposed to do in that situation? I think players of professional sports teams always have some sort of rallying cry -- ie "we're not respected", "we need to rebound", "we can't let our guard down etc..." But I think it takes more than a rally for a team to be successful; obviously, in a circumstance like the one last year, a team must be a strong group of players to make it through such a tragedy.

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If I were ultra sensitive about it, I wouldn't post at all. It's just an idea I see get tossed around a lot -- by Cowboys fans mostly, and I was curious as to where you were going with that.

You mentioned that this was an idea written by a member of the Washington media? Where is this article? Because I think if someone were to write something like that, they'd likely be thrown out of town.

You didn't hear any of the Washington media praising your team for rallying behind the tragedy?

Seriously?

And you think if anyone did say something like that they would be thrown out of town?

Seriously?

You have a completely different perspective of sports than I do. I consider that a very noble thing, not a crutch. I have in no way dissed your team in the comments I have made. No way at all. I was giving them credit.