Commanders resign dockery

Texan_Eph89

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,094
Reaction score
61
They're working wonders with the cap room, but it's going to cost them in the next few years.
 

Rack

Federal Agent
Messages
23,906
Reaction score
3,106
theebs;2658982 said:
oh really why is that.

Since your so smart why dont you break it down for me.

Please, I will be waiting. Please explain to me why I shouldnt be happy the skins keep chasing the same positions in free agency and it never works out for them, which is good. Please break it down all mighty one.

Or will you have no answers like all your posts and just smart axx remarks?

My post had nothing to do with the skins. It had all to do with your constant (and ignorance laced) views/bashing of Ray Lewis.
 

theebs

Believe!!!!
Messages
27,462
Reaction score
9,207
Rack Bauer;2658996 said:
My post had nothing to do with the skins. It had all to do with your constant (and ignorance laced) views/bashing of Ray Lewis.


good answer, just what I expected.

You want to pay ray lewis a ton of money.

Great.

I dont, that is what losers like the Commanders and the raiders do, over pay for old aging players. Paying them for stuff they did years ago.

let baltimore pay him for what he did in baltimore, why should our team be burdened with that.
 

big dog cowboy

THE BIG DOG
Staff member
Messages
101,894
Reaction score
112,871
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
alaadin123;2658923 said:
So, while making mega deals may not be the way to build a successful TEAM, it has turned the Commanders into a successful BUSINESS.
In the NFL, success is defined by winning the Super Bowl. The last time I checked, the Commanders last Super Bowl win was Super Bowl XXVI in 1992.
 

Ren

Well-Known Member
Messages
12,218
Reaction score
1,944
And the Skins reclaim their throne as offseason champs, going to be nice not to have that title hanging over our heads this year
 

alaadin123

New Member
Messages
4
Reaction score
0
[
big dog cowboy;2659007 said:
In the NFL, success is defined by winning the Super Bowl. The last time I checked, the Commanders last Super Bowl win was Super Bowl XXVI in 1992.
See, you're looking at this thing as a FAN, Im trying to look at it as Dan Snyder the BUSINESSMAN, and make no mistake, football to Dan Snyder is business.

Furthermore, I have to disagree with you that success is measured by winning the Superbowl, thats a rather extreme measure by which to measure success. Sure every team wants to win the Superbowl but I think we could all agree that the Cardinals did have a successful season. Believe it or not, not every team sets out at the start of the season setting their goal at winning the Superbowl that year, you have to be realistic about it. There are some teams that know they're in a rebuilding phase and it takes some time to accomplish that. Do you think the Lions are coming into this upcoming season with there goal set at winning the Superbowl in this same season? It's not a realistic goal and will only lead to feelings being hurt.

By your logic, The Pittsburgh Steelers have been in existance since 1933, thats over 70 years and in 70 seasons of taking the field, they've only won 6 Superbowls, the other 65+ seasons were failures for the franchise! If you were a boxer and your record was 6 wins and 65 losses, wouldn't you quit?
Im not trying to belittle you here, Im just pointing out the fact that winning or loosing the Superbowl does not necessarily determine your success or failure, that depends on what your goal was in the beginning.

At the end of the season when Dan Snyder looks at his bottomline numbers and says to himself, "I was the 5th top earning franchise this season despite the 8-8 record, Im $100million richer than I was a year ago" THAT, is a successful business, not just anyone can do that...trust me.
 

FloridaLandryFan30

New Member
Messages
12
Reaction score
0
Dockery Agrees to Deal with Skins

Jason La Canfora reports:

The Commanders have agreed to terms with free-agent guard Derrick Dockery. The agreement is for five years and is worth slightly less than $27 million with $8.5 million guaranteed and $11.5 million paid over the first two years, according to a league source.

How Dockery came to it the free-agent market is a bit odd.

Buffalo and Detroit had agreed to a trade Thursday with Detroit willing to pick up the rest of Dockery's 7-year, $49 million contract and to guarantee the 2009 and 2010 portions of that deal. However, the Bills failed to file the necessary paperwork with the NFL Management Council by the 4 p.m. dealine, according to a league source, and, rather than pay Dockery $4.5 million for this year, the Bills allowed him to become a free agent.

The Lions were still willing to pick up the remainder of the deal with the two guaranteed years and Dockery, who spent today in Detroit, was close to accepting their deal. However, tonight he decided to take the Skins' deal, which will pay im $3.5 million less over the duraton of the deal.

Oddly, because of the way the Skins deal is structured, he'll make more in '09 and '10 than he would have in Detroit. With this new deal, Dockery will have pocketed $27 million in guaranteed money over three years, making him among the highest-paid linemen in the league over that span.
...
 

theebs

Believe!!!!
Messages
27,462
Reaction score
9,207
FloridaLandryFan30;2659042 said:
Dockery Agrees to Deal with Skins

Jason La Canfora reports:

The Commanders have agreed to terms with free-agent guard Derrick Dockery. The agreement is for five years and is worth slightly less than $27 million with $8.5 million guaranteed and $11.5 million paid over the first two years, according to a league source.

How Dockery came to it the free-agent market is a bit odd.

Buffalo and Detroit had agreed to a trade Thursday with Detroit willing to pick up the rest of Dockery's 7-year, $49 million contract and to guarantee the 2009 and 2010 portions of that deal. However, the Bills failed to file the necessary paperwork with the NFL Management Council by the 4 p.m. dealine, according to a league source, and, rather than pay Dockery $4.5 million for this year, the Bills allowed him to become a free agent.

The Lions were still willing to pick up the remainder of the deal with the two guaranteed years and Dockery, who spent today in Detroit, was close to accepting their deal. However, tonight he decided to take the Skins' deal, which will pay im $3.5 million less over the duraton of the deal.

Oddly, because of the way the Skins deal is structured, he'll make more in '09 and '10 than he would have in Detroit. With this new deal, Dockery will have pocketed $27 million in guaranteed money over three years, making him among the highest-paid linemen in the league over that span.
...


awesome. Thank god they are in our division.
 

alaadin123

New Member
Messages
4
Reaction score
0
theebs;2658974 said:
Good post, but I have a bone to pick with this snyder and jones are successfull business people...

They are, but dont use their football time to showcase.

The Commanders and cowboys have fans that are extremely passionate and all over the world. THey will eat up anything there team offers them, tickets, parking, jerseys, shirts, pants, bikini's., urinals, lockers, dog collars, tv programming, etc etc ..


That is why snyder and jerry have changed the nfl. They have played on that passion and turned it into a giant marketing campaign. They charge exobranant prices for everything and everything is for sale.

It is like what gene simmons does with kiss, you know there is a huge market of people that will just keep buying, so you just keep giving them merchandise no matter how dumb, that is why guys sitting in a kiss t-shirt, listening to kiss cd will go on the internet and order a kiss coffin using a kiss credit card.

Its the same way for the cowboys and Commanders. Just make it or make it available to buy and it will be bought. That is why they sell 9 dollar tubs of popcorn at texas stadium etc...

and its no coincidence neither man has done anything worth a darn in over a decade but buy shiny new players and sell shiny new toys to the same fans.

ok rant over.

Well Theebs, you may be right but it is what it is and business is what it's about. Haynesworth, Dockery, and Hall may not bring another trophy to the team, but they will keep the seats full, and if a trophy does come out of it, thats even better because now Mr Snyder will make even more money.

Take a team like Buffaloe for instance, they are in danger of loosing their team to Canada because they aren't selling enough tickets, from a business standpoint, if you get the big names, they ticket sales will follow. I agree, they take advantage of the fact the we, the fans, will come out in swarms to see "our" team. The real power is with the fans and if we ever collectively decided we're not gonna allow them to fleece us anymore(quit buying tickets and watching the games on tv), they would have to bend to our demands. It will probably never happen but that's the way to stop it.
 

dbair1967

Arch Defender
Messages
30,782
Reaction score
1
FloridaLandryFan30;2659042 said:
With this new deal, Dockery will have pocketed $27 million in guaranteed money over three years, making him among the highest-paid linemen in the league over that span.
...

:lmao:

Danny strikes again!

:lmao:
 

theebs

Believe!!!!
Messages
27,462
Reaction score
9,207
dbair1967;2659083 said:
:lmao:

Danny strikes again!

:lmao:

You know what is probably the funniest part of this.

I bet if you went the skins site and found a skins fan opinon of dockery before he orginally left, when he left and now that he has returned, I be it would look somehting like this...

Before- dockery is one of the best young guards...we are lucky.

After he left- Dockery is overrated and not worth that kind of money

Returned-Yes Dockery is back, our line is instantly better, he is one of the best young guards in the league, we are lucky to have him!!

I dont post there so I cant look it up, but I bet something just like that exists.
 

dbair1967

Arch Defender
Messages
30,782
Reaction score
1
theebs;2659090 said:
You know what is probably the funniest part of this.

I bet if you went the skins site and found a skins fan opinon of dockery before he orginally left, when he left and now that he has returned, I be it would look somehting like this...

Before- dockery is one of the best young guards...we are lucky.

After he left- Dockery is overrated and not worth that kind of money

Returned-Yes Dockery is back, our line is instantly better, he is one of the best young guards in the league, we are lucky to have him!!

I dont post there so I cant look it up, but I bet something just like that exists.

you left off this:

"I'm sure 10 other teams were lining up to pay him way more than we did"
 

Rack

Federal Agent
Messages
23,906
Reaction score
3,106
theebs;2658999 said:
good answer, just what I expected.

You want to pay ray lewis a ton of money.

Great.

I dont, that is what losers like the Commanders and the raiders do, over pay for old aging players. Paying them for stuff they did years ago.

let baltimore pay him for what he did in baltimore, why should our team be burdened with that.

Your ignornance knows no bounds.
 

BnGFever

Member
Messages
157
Reaction score
11
silverbear;2658758 said:
Seems fair, when you consider that he's averaged over 2 TD passes a game, and the Boys have averaged almost 28 points per game when he played more than a cameo role (there was one game he got into a coupla seasons ago when he only threw two passes)...

For comparison, while it's quite true that Campbell doesn't throw many ints, he also doesn't throw many TD passes (36 career games, 35 career TD passes, or less than 1 a game)... and the Skins averaged 16.9 points per game in those 36 games...

Gimme the QB who throws 20 ints in a season, so long as he also throws 40 TD passes, over the guy who throws 10 picks, but only throws 15 TD passes...

I'm not disagreeing here. The second half of my post was me saying I've lost faith in campbell. I dont think he'll ever be better than a solid #2, which is what he should be anyway. I hope a light turns on and he becomes a solid starter, but I'm not holding my breath. Romo, despite his blunders and turnovers, has performed better than campbell, absolutely.
 

Skinsmaniac

Boycotting Snyder since 2009
Messages
1,447
Reaction score
0
dbair1967;2659083 said:
:lmao:

Danny strikes again!

:lmao:
theebs;2659044 said:
awesome. Thank god they are in our division.
I don't think you guys understand the article. Dockery made so much money because the Bills gave him a ridiculous contract and then released him. The Commanders paid him less than the Lions were offering.
 

theebs

Believe!!!!
Messages
27,462
Reaction score
9,207
Rack Bauer;2659194 said:
Your ignornance knows no bounds.


nor does your arrogance and lack of information and or anything posted that is useful, other than your smug I am better than you.

So You win, I hate arguing with geniuses, No matter what You will always be right, because you said so.
 
Top