Twitter: Competition Committee says Dez caught it **merged**

[phildadon86]

Per the article...

The NFL competition committee appears to have unanimous agreement that controversial catch rulings involving Dez Bryant and Calvin Johnson should have been ruled complete, according to Giants owner John Mara. So the committee is working on changing the rule to relax the "going to the ground" requirement.

Don't bother, I should him that as well and I am wrong apparently. Whats he going to do when they actually do quote this and he has even less of a leg to stand on?

 

[phildadon86]

Right. So where's the direct quote from Mara? All I hear are "summaries."

You cant quote an NFL owner without there being some validity. Jesus man give it a rest. You wouldn't be the first person to be wrong on this forum. Some here said Jaylon would never play football again.

 

[Americas Team1960]

Wow, y'all. Can you actually read that article, not just the freakin' headline, and show me anywhere in that sensationalized piece where the NFL "admitted" they got those calls wrong? Then go back to what I explained in my post and tell me if it isn't happening exactly like I said. Can people not deduce fact from slant? The media counts on this and it's why they'll never be out of business. Ever.

Read. Fact is your wrong but you'll never admit it.

Fact is, both Bryant and Johnson caught the ball, and Mara has finally been forced to admit it. Speaking from the NFL Competition Committee meetings, the Giants' co-owner told ESPN's Kevin Seifert the infamous "no catch" on both players will now become a reception according to an amendment to the rules that were agreed upon by the NFL's Competition Committee.

The NFL competition committee appears to have unanimous agreement that controversial catch rulings involving Dez Bryant and Calvin Johnson should have been ruled complete, according to Giants owner John Mara. So the committee is working on changing the rule to relax the "going to the ground" requirement.

 

[gimmesix]

Well if the official on the field was obscured by seeing the ball actually hit the ground, then I understand why he called it a catch on the field. The ball hitting the ground was revealed on the reverse angle which was directly opposite to that official. Replay is there to make sure the call is right and that's what happened in this case.

I'd have to go back and look, but from my recollection the official who made the call was the one who had the greatest view of the ball. What he likely saw was that Dez secured the ball while in the air, took at least two steps and switched the ball to his other hand to reach for the goal line. At that point, going to the ground was inconsequential because he "made a football move." Because the replay booth could not determine without a doubt ("indisputable evidence") that he did not make a football move, it should not have been overturned.

This was the reason that the league removed "making a football move" from the catch rule the next offseason and switched to "becoming a runner with the ball," which was just another way of saying "made a football move."

Here was the rule change, which essentially was the NFL admitting its mistake without admitting it:

A player is considered to be going to the ground if he does not remain upright long enough to demonstrate that he is clearly a runner. If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball until after his initial contact with the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.

 

[zrinkill]

Some of these anti-Dez guys will never admit it........they are invested in Dez "dropping" that catch.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Right. So where's the direct quote from Mara? All I hear are "summaries." Note the word "appears" in that sentence. Not definitive from where I sit.

Right. So where's the direct quote from Mara? All I hear are "summaries." Note the word "appears" in that sentence. Not definitive from where I sit.

You never asked for quote. You asked where in the article it said the NFL admitted it got it wrong.

From what I posted, I would say that is good enough if the Competition Committee is nearly unanimous agreement that it should have been a catch is good enough for me.
Might not be for you.

 

[MarcusRock]

You cant quote an NFL owner without there being some validity. Jesus man give it a rest. You wouldn't be the first person to be wrong on this forum. Some here said Jaylon would never play football again.

If Mara was quoted, then let's see the quote. I see summaries ans slant to rile up emotional fans. It's working.

 

[Aviano90]

Quote from Mara:

"I think where we are unanimous," Mara told ESPN on Tuesday, "[are] plays like the Dez Bryant play in Green Bay, going to the ground, the Calvin Johnson play from a couple of years ago. I think all of us agree that those should be completions. So let's write the language to make them completions."

"The Jesse James play, I think should be a completion," Mara said, "but I'm not sure we're unanimous on that. But plays where guys seem to make the catch and then make a football move with it, I think most of us agree those should be completions. Now it's just a question of coming up with the right language."

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...s-cowboys-dez-bryant-playoff-game-ruled-catch
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...s-cowboys-dez-bryant-playoff-game-ruled-catch
Doesn't sound to me he is saying the call was wrong.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

If Mara was quoted, then let's see the quote. I see summaries ans slant to rile up emotional fans. It's working.

http://kwese.espn.com/nfl/story/_/i...s-cowboys-dez-bryant-playoff-game-ruled-catch

Will this end it for you or no?

"I think where we are unanimous," Mara told ESPN on Tuesday, "[are] plays like the Dez Bryant play in Green Bay, going to the ground, the Calvin Johnson play from a couple of years ago. I think all of us agree that those should be completions. So let's write the language to make them completions."

 

[slick325]

It was a catch on the field and a catch to the naked eye. Good of them to admit a wrong. Wonder if they mentioned the Jesse James catch as well. (Admittedly haven't read the whole thread).

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Quote from Mara:

"I think where we are unanimous," Mara told ESPN on Tuesday, "[are] plays like the Dez Bryant play in Green Bay, going to the ground, the Calvin Johnson play from a couple of years ago. I think all of us agree that those should be completions. So let's write the language to make them completions."

"The Jesse James play, I think should be a completion," Mara said, "but I'm not sure we're unanimous on that. But plays where guys seem to make the catch and then make a football move with it, I think most of us agree those should be completions. Now it's just a question of coming up with the right language."

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...s-cowboys-dez-bryant-playoff-game-ruled-catch
Doesn't sound to me he is saying the call was wrong.

He is saying the Dez and Megatron ones should be catches.
He is sasying the Jesse James one is not.

Two different things

 

[phildadon86]

http://kwese.espn.com/nfl/story/_/i...s-cowboys-dez-bryant-playoff-game-ruled-catch

Will this end it for you or no?

"I think where we are unanimous," Mara told ESPN on Tuesday, "[are] plays like the Dez Bryant play in Green Bay, going to the ground, the Calvin Johnson play from a couple of years ago. I think all of us agree that those should be completions. So let's write the language to make them completions."

SHOULD BE COMPLETIONS. I hope this ends it

 

[MarcusRock]

Read. Fact is your wrong but you'll never admit it.

Fact is, both Bryant and Johnson caught the ball, and Mara has finally been forced to admit it. Speaking from the NFL Competition Committee meetings, the Giants' co-owner told ESPN's Kevin Seifert the infamous "no catch" on both players will now become a reception according to an amendment to the rules that were agreed upon by the NFL's Competition Committee.

The NFL competition committee appears to have unanimous agreement that controversial catch rulings involving Dez Bryant and Calvin Johnson should have been ruled complete, according to Giants owner John Mara. So the committee is working on changing the rule to relax the "going to the ground" requirement.

Same question to you as the other guy. If you "appeared" to kill someone by witness account and there's no evidence or an admission from you, then it's good enough that you should be convicted and sentenced?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Same question to you as the other guy. If you "appeared" to kill someone by witness account and there's no evidence or an admission from you, then it's good enough that you should be convicted and sentenced?

http://kwese.espn.com/nfl/story/_/i...s-cowboys-dez-bryant-playoff-game-ruled-catch

Will this end it for you or no?

"I think where we are unanimous," Mara told ESPN on Tuesday, "[are] plays like the Dez Bryant play in Green Bay, going to the ground, the Calvin Johnson play from a couple of years ago. I think all of us agree that those should be completions. So let's write the language to make them completions."

 

[Aviano90]

He is saying the Dez and Megatron ones should be catches.
He is sasying the Jesse James one is not.

Two different things

I know what he is saying. He saying they *should be* catches so they need to make the rules to where they will be catches. I fail to see where he is saying the call in 2014 was wrong.

 

[MarcusRock]

I'd have to go back and look, but from my recollection the official who made the call was the one who had the greatest view of the ball. What he likely saw was that Dez secured the ball while in the air, took at least two steps and switched the ball to his other hand to reach for the goal line. At that point, going to the ground was inconsequential because he "made a football move." Because the replay booth could not determine without a doubt ("indisputable evidence") that he did not make a football move, it should not have been overturned.

This was the reason that the league removed "making a football move" from the catch rule the next offseason and switched to "becoming a runner with the ball," which was just another way of saying "made a football move."

Here was the rule change, which essentially was the NFL admitting its mistake without admitting it:

We discussed this in the other thread and the rule was not changed the following year. Your statement in bold actually agrees with this.

 

[aria]

I’m just curious when they’ll admit Hitchins commited PI on Pettigrew? Did Morelli know about the conspiracy against the Cowboys which is why he picked up the flag after throwing it? To actually help the Cowboys?

I also still wonder why the GB game depended on one catch? Why could we not beat a gimpy, one legged Aaron Rodgers who was limping around playing in one the most basic offenses I’ve ever seen him run due to his immobility? That was the most frustrating part to me, we couldn’t beat a severely hobbled QB...that’s pathetic, even if it AR or Brady.

 

[Diehardblues]

We all already knew he caught it.

 

[zrinkill]

I’m just curious when they’ll admit Hitchins commited PI on Pettigrew? Did Morelli know about the conspiracy against the Cowboys which is why he picked up the flag after throwing it? To actually help the Cowboys?.

Pettigrew had Hichins face mask

 

[MarcusRock]

Quote from Mara:

"I think where we are unanimous," Mara told ESPN on Tuesday, "[are] plays like the Dez Bryant play in Green Bay, going to the ground, the Calvin Johnson play from a couple of years ago. I think all of us agree that those should be completions. So let's write the language to make them completions."

"The Jesse James play, I think should be a completion," Mara said, "but I'm not sure we're unanimous on that. But plays where guys seem to make the catch and then make a football move with it, I think most of us agree those should be completions. Now it's just a question of coming up with the right language."

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...s-cowboys-dez-bryant-playoff-game-ruled-catch
Doesn't sound to me he is saying the call was wrong.

Of course they're not saying it was the wrong call, which is what I said waaaaaay back on Page 2 but emotion is rolling now, lol:

"The competition committee is currently reviewing the rule. If they are indeed leaning towards revising the rule to take away the going to the ground requirements, then those controversial catches would be catches under any revised rule that would take away the going to the ground requirement. The reporter here is obviously playing on the uninformed outrage from fans who think all those plays should have been catches but were not under the rules at the time."​