Connecticut shooting ***Do NOT post about gun laws***

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danielofthesaints;4898084 said:

Sorry, mean to say above that was posted upthread.

Essentially, it looks like the brother had no idea his brother did it and that someone may have stolen his identity. In reality, it was his brother and he may have pieced it together himself that his parents and brother are all deceased now.

So many lives wrecked today.
 

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It's a little off-topic but I think something needs to be done about these alerts letting people know about incidents like this. I was just watching the news and a parent of a student at that school said most of the parents didn't take the alert (an automated phone call mentioning a shooting) seriously because they are alerted like that fairly regularly and it is always an overblown false alarm. The same thing happens at my university. We had 2 notifications of a possible gun threat on campus in the past 3 weeks and they were both false alarms. My point is, nobody takes these alarms seriously, so when something actually does happen, how will they know?
 

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Sarge;4898132 said:
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I find this post displeasing to the eye. I'm offended! :D
 

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JoeyBoy718;4898134 said:
It's a little off-topic but I think something needs to be done about these alerts letting people know about incidents like this. I was just watching the news and a parent of a student at that school said most of the parents didn't take the alert (an automated phone call mentioning a shooting) seriously because they are alerted like that fairly regularly and it is always an overblown false alarm. The same thing happens at my university. We had 2 notifications of a possible gun threat on campus in the past 3 weeks and they were both false alarms. My point is, nobody takes these alarms seriously, so when something actually does happen, how will they know?
Maybe they should have two-prong alert system. Warning vs Actual type thing.
 

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JoeyBoy718;4898134 said:
It's a little off-topic but I think something needs to be done about these alerts letting people know about incidents like this. I was just watching the news and a parent of a student at that school said most of the parents didn't take the alert (an automated phone call mentioning a shooting) seriously because they are alerted like that fairly regularly and it is always an overblown false alarm. The same thing happens at my university. We had 2 notifications of a possible gun threat on campus in the past 3 weeks and they were both false alarms. My point is, nobody takes these alarms seriously, so when something actually does happen, how will they know?

I'm not really sure what you can expect though.

If people don't get an alert because of what turned out to be a false alarm, they'd be pissed for not knowing.

If you want the alerts, you can't just dust them off no matter how frequent they are
 

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This thread is on the School shooting. Stay on it . If you can't post on it in a descent manner --stay out of this thread.
 

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Way early but just putting pieces together.

Targets Mom, Dad and Mom's class. Seems that maybe he was being abused and felt his mother gave more attention to her school kids then to him.

Not making excuses for the shooter, just trying to make some sense of all this.

Oh, and reports are saying he had 2 hand guns on him and they found an assault rifle in a car, but they found a .223 casing inside the school. May mean there was a second shooter.
 

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blindzebra;4898193 said:
Way early but just putting pieces together.

Targets Mom, Dad and Mom's class. Seems that maybe he was being abused and felt his mother gave more attention to her school kids then to him.

Not making excuses for the shooter, just trying to make some sense of all this.

Oh, and reports are saying he had 2 hand guns on him and they found an assault rifle in a car, but they found a .223 casing inside the school. May mean there was a second shooter.

I have not watched much of this because it makes me sick!

But, what are those reports about someone in the trees or bushes behind the school?
 

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blindzebra;4898193 said:
Way early but just putting pieces together.

Targets Mom, Dad and Mom's class. Seems that maybe he was being abused and felt his mother gave more attention to her school kids then to him.

Not making excuses for the shooter, just trying to make some sense of all this.

Oh, and reports are saying he had 2 hand guns on him and they found an assault rifle in a car, but they found a .223 casing inside the school. May mean there was a second shooter.
I didn't hear anything about the possible abuse, so are you just theorizing that on your own?

I did hear a lot of differing news reports: first Ryan was the shooter, then the younger brother Adam was the shooter, then Ryan was found dead in an apartment, then Adam was dead in an apartment, then there was a second shooter who ran into the woods, then the mother was found dead in the classroom, then the mother was found dead at home.
 

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Im not a parent, but I would imagine it being hard have to trust other people with your kids, but you have to. You send your kids to school and trust that everything is going to be okay. That school is their safe haven.

This one hurts a lot.
 

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:( So sad. So so sad.

I have twin boys that are first graders. I can't imagine the pain of the families. All my prayers are for the victims, friends and families.

20 kids. 20 little kids excited for Christmas will now be buried. I feel sick to my stomach. :(
 

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I've been in court or reviewing documents In Camera all day, so I just heard about this. One thing is apaprent to me. Today's News cycle is almost instant, so accuracy has become a bit of a casualty.

I see a broad range of emotions and reactions on this board and I suspect that this is similar wherever we're from. I have a son who's a teacher and he has talked to me about Threat Assessment training that he has taken and the protocols established at his school, but you can't always predict an incident like this.

As a fellow CZ member, I would extened my condolences to the families involved and to all of you who are impacted by this. I would also echo the wish that we respect the mods efforts to maintain a civil discourse in light of a horrible tragedy.
 

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Saw this tweet:

"I'm told Adam Lanza, 20, was the shooter but may have been carrying 24-yr-old brother Ryan"s ID, leading to confusion."

As if the real shooter was not evil enough. :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

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One of the reports I read is that the brother, Ryan Lanza, was taken into questioning and he said his younger brother Adam, the shooter, may have had autism. It'll be interesting to see how the media handles this if he does have autism. The media seems to love autistics.
 

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Lodeus;4898314 said:
What a sick world we live in.

Today's incident is indescribably sad.

But there has always been the element that would do something like this... Always.

The worst school mass-murder in the US occurred in 1927.


Yes, 1927, when someone who was unhappy with the amount of school taxes they were paying and was losing their house in foreclosure. The person killed his wife and then went to the school and blew up a portion of it, killing 38 elementary children.

Those types of folks have always been out there.


I don't know how you can stop all of them... I really don't.
 

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Really sad and tragic. Thoughts and prayers are with the families and victims. In particular the parents of the kids that were lost. A whole class of them! As really beyond a tragedy.

As this will be a rough holiday for not just this year but for all years to come. No child or adult need to ever experience losing a loved one like this. EVER!:cry3: :cry2:
 

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Shunpike;4898252 said:
20 kids. 20 little kids excited for Christmas will now be buried. I feel sick to my stomach. :(
I am with you brother. Just so horable. My heartbreaks for all these children and there families. So sad. So very sad. : (
 
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