Cooper Rush's replacement?

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I know this is putting the cart before the horse a bit but it's a fair issue IMO. I can't find a clear market value but have seen $4-5M range. That would put him in the same range as Brissett, Darnold, and Mayfield. It's likely going to come down to how we are willing to spend to keep Coop from possibly replacing Chase Daniel as Herbert's backup. Daniel is not only a free agent but word is he may be retiring. Who you think Kellen's pushing to help Herbert and the Charger's offense learn his system? In other words, Coop's $4-5M value to the Cowboys can easily be $6-8M with the Chargers. So we could very be in the market for a vet backup.....

  • A few names I like .......Mike White, Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Darnold ( all should be in $3-6M range )


https://www.profootballrumors.com/
  • One position that definitely makes sense for the Ravens to upgrade in free agency is backup quarterback. In a more recent breakdown, Zrebiec discussed why it would be important to sign an established backup. The past two seasons in Baltimore have ended with Jackson on the sideline dealing with injury. In the 12 games that Jackson has either sat out or left with injury in the last two years, the Ravens are 4-8, not including their lone playoff loss without Jackson. Teams like the 49ers and Cowboys displayed this year the value of having backup quarterbacks capable of winning games. Pushed into play due to injury, backup quarterbacks Cooper Rush, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Brock Purdy went a combined 16-4 in their regular season starts. While Rush is available, as are other options like Sam Darnold, Jacoby Brissett, and Andy Dalton, Baker Mayfield may make the most sense. Mayfield is an affordable option after flaming out a bit in Cleveland and Carolina, but he showed he still has the ability to compete in the waning games of the season with the Rams. He’s fairly young, having been drafted the same year as Jackson, while still experienced, and he specifically has experience in the AFC North. Mayfield also has a formidable talent for running the ball that wouldn’t require new offensive coordinator Todd Monken to switch things up too much when he’s in. Whether or not the former division rival is the answer, it’s become clear that backups Tyler Huntley and Anthony Brown can’t carry the team when Jackson is absent.


https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/quarterback/all/
I think it is basically impossible to predict his market value

On the surface he was 4-1 which looks good; however, I think any coaches that review the game film will conclude that he is physically limited.

Once he faced a really good defense (Eagles) he had 3 INTs.

Having said that, when starters are making over 40M per, there could be a wide AAV range for backups.
 

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Jerry would never bring in a big name QB with talent to rival Dak. We don't want 2 capable QBs. What we want is QB1 and someone perfectly ok being QB2 and never aspiring to more.
A big name QB would be expensive. No team is going to pay a 2nd QB 20M+ when the existing QB is making 40M per.
 

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It's certain that the likelihood of Rush leaving shot up with the Offensive Coordinator change. "He knows the system" is often the strongest thing you can say about a backup quarterback, but now the system is changing.
 

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I think it is basically impossible to predict his market value

On the surface he was 4-1 which looks good; however, I think any coaches that review the game film will conclude that he is physically limited.

Once he faced a really good defense (Eagles) he had 3 INTs.

Having said that, when starters are making over 40M per, there could be a wide AAV range for backups.
I agree but my point is his experience and knowledge of Kellen's system make him a huge get for the Chargers. I can see them telling his agent, bring us your highest offer.
 

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It will be the TCU QB.
If Duggan is around in the late 3rd and 4th rounds, the Cowboys need to get him. He is an overachiever and hard worker. His size is not great at 6'2 but it is satisfactory Same as Dak, Hurts, Mahomes..... Jerry seems infatuated by him and that's a plus. We shall see.
 

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I’d draft a QB in mid rounds, let Rush walk and let maybe bring in a low price bet to compete with Grier for the backup job. Grier was winning the backup battle last camp until he got hurt. I think he could be the guy this year.
Grier has good potential. I have no idea what's wrong w/ him, but he should be better/further along than he is.
 

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Imo, we'll likely re-sign Cooper Rush and Wil Grier.

- Rush is based on his surprising win streak in Dak's absence as he is now a familiar (and trusted?) with McCarthy.

- Rush will now be under tutage of Schottenhemier, McCarthy,..and it remains to be seen if a QB is officially announced and confirmed.
Cooper will working under a new offensive approach per West Coast- as will all of the QBs.

- i expect another Mike White, Ben DiNucci type developmental project pick in the late rounds,... not a QB pick in the early rounds.
I wouldn't rule out re-signing Rush either. If it is around the 3 million range I think he'll be back.
 

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I know this is putting the cart before the horse a bit but it's a fair issue IMO. I can't find a clear market value but have seen $4-5M range. That would put him in the same range as Brissett, Darnold, and Mayfield. It's likely going to come down to how we are willing to spend to keep Coop from possibly replacing Chase Daniel as Herbert's backup. Daniel is not only a free agent but word is he may be retiring. Who you think Kellen's pushing to help Herbert and the Charger's offense learn his system? In other words, Coop's $4-5M value to the Cowboys can easily be $6-8M with the Chargers. So we could very be in the market for a vet backup.....

  • A few names I like .......Mike White, Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Darnold ( all should be in $3-6M range )


https://www.profootballrumors.com/
  • One position that definitely makes sense for the Ravens to upgrade in free agency is backup quarterback. In a more recent breakdown, Zrebiec discussed why it would be important to sign an established backup. The past two seasons in Baltimore have ended with Jackson on the sideline dealing with injury. In the 12 games that Jackson has either sat out or left with injury in the last two years, the Ravens are 4-8, not including their lone playoff loss without Jackson. Teams like the 49ers and Cowboys displayed this year the value of having backup quarterbacks capable of winning games. Pushed into play due to injury, backup quarterbacks Cooper Rush, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Brock Purdy went a combined 16-4 in their regular season starts. While Rush is available, as are other options like Sam Darnold, Jacoby Brissett, and Andy Dalton, Baker Mayfield may make the most sense. Mayfield is an affordable option after flaming out a bit in Cleveland and Carolina, but he showed he still has the ability to compete in the waning games of the season with the Rams. He’s fairly young, having been drafted the same year as Jackson, while still experienced, and he specifically has experience in the AFC North. Mayfield also has a formidable talent for running the ball that wouldn’t require new offensive coordinator Todd Monken to switch things up too much when he’s in. Whether or not the former division rival is the answer, it’s become clear that backups Tyler Huntley and Anthony Brown can’t carry the team when Jackson is absent.


https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/quarterback/all/

As far as backups go, I'd consider drafting Clayton Tune from Houston in round 5. He's got pretty good touch, and I think he's a player that can be a solid backup in the NFL with the ability to start a handful of games in a pinch.
 

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I think they may go QB as early as the 3rd round of the right one is available.

If by that you mean Hooker from Tennessee, I could see that. I think he's probably going to be one of two QBs we take over the next two seasons. If we don't get him, I'd love to get Clayton Tune.
 

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Sign Baker Mayfield, draft Clayton Tune with one of those 5ths.

I know Baker isn't a great QB, but he could be a good backup to get you through the 3-4 years when Tune is ready to take over.

I like this idea a lot. And then next year, I'd draft another QB to get some competition between Tune and that other QB going.
 

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I know this is putting the cart before the horse a bit but it's a fair issue IMO. I can't find a clear market value but have seen $4-5M range. That would put him in the same range as Brissett, Darnold, and Mayfield. It's likely going to come down to how we are willing to spend to keep Coop from possibly replacing Chase Daniel as Herbert's backup. Daniel is not only a free agent but word is he may be retiring. Who you think Kellen's pushing to help Herbert and the Charger's offense learn his system? In other words, Coop's $4-5M value to the Cowboys can easily be $6-8M with the Chargers. So we could very be in the market for a vet backup.....

  • A few names I like .......Mike White, Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Darnold ( all should be in $3-6M range )


https://www.profootballrumors.com/
  • One position that definitely makes sense for the Ravens to upgrade in free agency is backup quarterback. In a more recent breakdown, Zrebiec discussed why it would be important to sign an established backup. The past two seasons in Baltimore have ended with Jackson on the sideline dealing with injury. In the 12 games that Jackson has either sat out or left with injury in the last two years, the Ravens are 4-8, not including their lone playoff loss without Jackson. Teams like the 49ers and Cowboys displayed this year the value of having backup quarterbacks capable of winning games. Pushed into play due to injury, backup quarterbacks Cooper Rush, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Brock Purdy went a combined 16-4 in their regular season starts. While Rush is available, as are other options like Sam Darnold, Jacoby Brissett, and Andy Dalton, Baker Mayfield may make the most sense. Mayfield is an affordable option after flaming out a bit in Cleveland and Carolina, but he showed he still has the ability to compete in the waning games of the season with the Rams. He’s fairly young, having been drafted the same year as Jackson, while still experienced, and he specifically has experience in the AFC North. Mayfield also has a formidable talent for running the ball that wouldn’t require new offensive coordinator Todd Monken to switch things up too much when he’s in. Whether or not the former division rival is the answer, it’s become clear that backups Tyler Huntley and Anthony Brown can’t carry the team when Jackson is absent.


https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/quarterback/all/
Will Grier is fine.
 

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A big name QB would be expensive. No team is going to pay a 2nd QB 20M+ when the existing QB is making 40M per.
they won't pay the price for a high paid backup ... last time we invested in that was Kyle Orton ......
 

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Imo, we'll likely re-sign Cooper Rush and Wil Grier.

- Rush is based on his surprising win streak in Dak's absence as he is now a familiar (and trusted?) with McCarthy.

- Rush will now be under tutage of Schottenhemier, McCarthy,..and it remains to be seen if a QB is officially announced and confirmed.
Cooper will working under a new offensive approach per West Coast- as will all of the QBs.

- i expect another Mike White, Ben DiNucci type developmental project pick in the late rounds,... not a QB pick in the early rounds.
Rush is most valuable to the Cowboys. Much of his value is likely just familiarity with the system. Unlikely to be as good, and therefore as valuable, anywhere else.
On the team's end, we could get a guy with a bigger arm, but he wouldn't know the system or the team, and wouldn't be getting 1st string snaps to get to know them.
Makes sense on both ends. Though we should keep bringing in young guys.
Keep. Em. Coming.
 

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If by that you mean Hooker from Tennessee, I could see that. I think he's probably going to be one of two QBs we take over the next two seasons. If we don't get him, I'd love to get Clayton Tune.
Hooker is the player I had in mind. Makes too much sense. Cowboys get the value pick on discount which they love to do. It doesn’t put any immediate pressure on Dak but puts him on the horizon.
 
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