Cooper Rush's replacement?

[RoboQB]

Will Grier is fine.

I think he'd do well as a backup.
He has an interesting back story.
He was a Heisman hopeful at one point.

 

[DandyDon52]

After he gets playing experience, maybe The Nooch will be NFL ready. He looked good yesterday.

https://www.si.com/xfl/2023/02/20/ben-dinucci-evokes-patrick-mahomes-xfl-td-pass-josh-gordon
This was very mahomes like.
Had 2 int , but they lost by 2
xfl has new replay system fans like.

 

[DandyDon52]

I know this is putting the cart before the horse a bit but it's a fair issue IMO. I can't find a clear market value but have seen $4-5M range. That would put him in the same range as Brissett, Darnold, and Mayfield. It's likely going to come down to how we are willing to spend to keep Coop from possibly replacing Chase Daniel as Herbert's backup. Daniel is not only a free agent but word is he may be retiring. Who you think Kellen's pushing to help Herbert and the Charger's offense learn his system? In other words, Coop's $4-5M value to the Cowboys can easily be $6-8M with the Chargers. So we could very be in the market for a vet backup.....

• A few names I like .......Mike White, Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Darnold ( all should be in $3-6M range )

https://www.profootballrumors.com/

• One position that definitely makes sense for the Ravens to upgrade in free agency is backup quarterback. In a more recent breakdown, Zrebiec discussed why it would be important to sign an established backup. The past two seasons in Baltimore have ended with Jackson on the sideline dealing with injury. In the 12 games that Jackson has either sat out or left with injury in the last two years, the Ravens are 4-8, not including their lone playoff loss without Jackson. Teams like the 49ers and Cowboys displayed this year the value of having backup quarterbacks capable of winning games. Pushed into play due to injury, backup quarterbacks Cooper Rush, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Brock Purdy went a combined 16-4 in their regular season starts. While Rush is available, as are other options like Sam Darnold, Jacoby Brissett, and Andy Dalton, Baker Mayfield may make the most sense. Mayfield is an affordable option after flaming out a bit in Cleveland and Carolina, but he showed he still has the ability to compete in the waning games of the season with the Rams. He’s fairly young, having been drafted the same year as Jackson, while still experienced, and he specifically has experience in the AFC North. Mayfield also has a formidable talent for running the ball that wouldn’t require new offensive coordinator Todd Monken to switch things up too much when he’s in. Whether or not the former division rival is the answer, it’s become clear that backups Tyler Huntley and Anthony Brown can’t carry the team when Jackson is absent.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/quarterback/all/

cooper would be smart to go to another team.
here he will just rot behind dak
I think jets will keep mike white. they were rolling till he got ribs broken

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Hooker is the player I had in mind. Makes too much sense. Cowboys get the value pick on discount which they love to do. It doesn’t put any immediate pressure on Dak but puts him on the horizon.

Which is a good idea, especially if they opt to extend Daks contract by one year to offset the cap hit. Then, either next year or the year after, another would be taken higher. My idea would be for Hooker and the other QB to battle it out if Dak's contract runs out. The loser of that battle gets traded for first round picks.

 

[sbark]

Easton Stick....

 

[John813]

I don't know what it is about Miami, but their backups play like *** in Miami but better elsewhere.

Brissett 2 years ago was barely serviceable in Miami. Looked better in Cleveland.
Bridgewater just looked checked out this past year in Miami, and they had better weapons in 2022 than 21. It was like he never bothered to practice or something.

Otherwords, not a fan of signing Bridgewater, especially for anything near backup pay.

 

[quickccc]

so is wining games a QB stat? or not?

Starters more expected to win than the backups. Pure fundamentals.
it's a reason why starters get the money they do ... and a reason why backups get the money they do.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Starters more expected to win than the backups. Pure fundamentals.
it's a reason why starters get the money they do ... and a reason why backups get the money they do.

again. is wins a QB statistic?

 

[Cmac]

Sign Baker Mayfield, draft Clayton Tune with one of those 5ths.

I know Baker isn't a great QB, but he could be a good backup to get you through the 3-4 years when Tune is ready to take over.

Get you through what?...... of did you mean Get you in more mess? Tune......really?

 

[atlantacowboy]

A big name QB would be expensive. No team is going to pay a 2nd QB 20M+ when the existing QB is making 40M per.

You think Sam Darnold is looking at a 20M per year deal? As a former 1st round pick with a ton of arm talent, he is exactly the kind of QB Jerry would never bring to Dallas.

 

[McKDaddy]

read my post again. I said anyone in their right mind. tell me all 32 teams in the NFL have the right mind?

rush sucks. end of story.

LOL. But if you are going to use that logic, we need you to add a mini dictionary to define your terms with each post.

No, Rush does not suck. You don't win 5 of 6 NFL starts by sucking. Is he a legit starter? We don't know but he clearly showed he can run an offense. Who's to say with experience he wouldn't improve? Does he have the arm strength you would like? No. But it sure was nice to see the ball come out on time & on target.
One thing is for sure, teams are going to interested in him even if they only view him as a backup and it will be for much more than the vet minimum.

 

[quickccc]

again. is wins a QB statistic?

Do you want Stats ... or Wins ?

Do you want the backup QB to look pretty in losing .... or the ugly looking backup to win games ?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

LOL. But if you are going to use that logic, we need you to add a mini dictionary to define your terms with each post.

No, Rush does not suck. You don't win 5 of 6 NFL starts by sucking. Is he a legit starter? We don't know but he clearly showed he can run an offense. Who's to say with experience he wouldn't improve? Does he have the arm strength you would like? No. But it sure was nice to see the ball come out on time & on target.
One thing is for sure, teams are going to interested in him even if they only view him as a backup and it will be for much more than the vet minimum.

so you don't like my post, want to pigeon hole something for an agenda you want to drive.....

Rush sucks. he is barely a backup. without strong support around him, and a strong defense to keep the team in the games, he will struggle mightily as he did offensively. he can't lead a high scoring offense. again, he can't lead a high scoring offense. so it all comes down to the defense bailing him out. if defense doesn't bail him out, or score, then he won't give us a chance.

by the 4th game, he got figured out. his performance dropped from a cliff significantly as DCs saw about 4,5 games worth of film on him.

and yes, he doesn't have arm strength. he can barely get it past 15 yards and I don't care how smart you are, if the ball takes 3,4 minutes to get there, then its easy to defend. I give the receivers a nice cushion, bait him into throwing the ball, I have time to take a nap, eat lunch, tie my shoes, pull up my socks, fix my hair, put helmet back on and still get there and intercept the ball, ala what Eagles did. he got baited into three interceptions.

and let me ask you. are Wins/Losses a QB stat? I keep hearing that from everyone, but nobody is willing to say it. it either is or is not.

if he stays, then he stays. if he leaves, then he leaves. we need to strengthen the back up position. my preference would be Minshew. he is a decent backup.

however, one strategy would be to let Dak walk. make Rush the starter and end up with a top 5 pick. hope an Elite QB is available. in the draft....now, that I can get behind.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Do you want Stats ... or Wins ?

Do you want the backup QB to look pretty in losing .... or the ugly looking backup to win games ?

I ask again, are wins/losses a QB stat?

I want the team to win. if the defense doesn't hold up, rush gives us Zero chance. his last two games clearly showed that. he has been figured out. it took 4 game films to do that. you aren't going to win many games being in the mid to low 20s on offense. if you can't get past the 23 point mark, you are not going to win many games in the NFL. if you depend on the defense to score for you to have a chance, then you are not going to win many games.

but I get it, "I Hate Dak" so I am going to jump on Rush Crush bandwagon and just point to wins/losses. football be damned.

 

[McKDaddy]

so you don't like my post, want to pigeon hole something for an agenda you want to drive.....

Rush sucks. he is barely a backup. without strong support around him, and a strong defense to keep the team in the games, he will struggle mightily as he did offensively. he can't lead a high scoring offense. again, he can't lead a high scoring offense. so it all comes down to the defense bailing him out. if defense doesn't bail him out, or score, then he won't give us a chance.

by the 4th game, he got figured out. his performance dropped from a cliff significantly as DCs saw about 4,5 games worth of film on him.

and yes, he doesn't have arm strength. he can barely get it past 15 yards and I don't care how smart you are, if the ball takes 3,4 minutes to get there, then its easy to defend. I give the receivers a nice cushion, bait him into throwing the ball, I have time to take a nap, eat lunch, tie my shoes, pull up my socks, fix my hair, put helmet back on and still get there and intercept the ball, ala what Eagles did. he got baited into three interceptions.

and let me ask you. are Wins/Losses a QB stat? I keep hearing that from everyone, but nobody is willing to say it. it either is or is not.

if he stays, then he stays. if he leaves, then he leaves. we need to strengthen the back up position. my preference would be Minshew. he is a decent backup.

however, one strategy would be to let Dak walk. make Rush the starter and end up with a top 5 pick. hope an Elite QB is available. in the draft....now, that I can get behind.

pigeon hole? You said he wouldn't get signed for more than vet minimum.

All I'm saying is it's wrong to say he sucks and be realistic with what his salary will be. You can not like him or not believe in him without dismissing what he did when on the field.

I would be cool with Minshew or Mayfield as backup. I would love to let Dak walk if that were feasible. I was on board with that strategy when Dak was up for his contract.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

pigeon hole? You said he wouldn't get signed for more than vet minimum.

All I'm saying is it's wrong to say he sucks and be realistic with what his salary will be. You can not like him or not believe in him without dismissing what he did when on the field.

I would be cool with Minshew or Mayfield as backup. I would love to let Dak walk if that were feasible. I was on board with that strategy when Dak was up for his contract.

I didn't say that. I said no one in their right mind would sign him for above vet minimum. we are one of the teams that doesn't have the right mind. just see jerry. there are a few more.

he sucks. he is barely a backup. the wins/losses Dak Bashers point to is fools gold.
so what did he do on the field? offense that was mid 20s. never scored more than 25 points. average was barely 21. offense ranked mid 20s otherwise. that puts all the pressure on defense including scoring which they did against Rams and when defense didn't perform, the team collapsed. his last two games is more of who he is. people talk about him being smart, get the ball out in time, yet he has 59% completion rate. passing yards averaged 210. he had total of 5 TD passes in 5 games.

this is the same guy, who has been in the league for year. was let go by cowboys. Garrett his former coach took him to NY and he got cut there. at the end of training camp, we chose to cut him and go with one QB on the roster and nobody. no team picked him or was interested and he was back in dallas. so lets not got all hog tied into oh, gosh he went 4-1.....

I wanted us to trade for minshew for a 6th last year. if he is available, then lets move on from Rush, he can go to SD.

 

[blueblood70]

I know this is putting the cart before the horse a bit but it's a fair issue IMO. I can't find a clear market value but have seen $4-5M range. That would put him in the same range as Brissett, Darnold, and Mayfield. It's likely going to come down to how we are willing to spend to keep Coop from possibly replacing Chase Daniel as Herbert's backup. Daniel is not only a free agent but word is he may be retiring. Who you think Kellen's pushing to help Herbert and the Charger's offense learn his system? In other words, Coop's $4-5M value to the Cowboys can easily be $6-8M with the Chargers. So we could very be in the market for a vet backup.....

• A few names I like .......Mike White, Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Darnold ( all should be in $3-6M range )

https://www.profootballrumors.com/

• One position that definitely makes sense for the Ravens to upgrade in free agency is backup quarterback. In a more recent breakdown, Zrebiec discussed why it would be important to sign an established backup. The past two seasons in Baltimore have ended with Jackson on the sideline dealing with injury. In the 12 games that Jackson has either sat out or left with injury in the last two years, the Ravens are 4-8, not including their lone playoff loss without Jackson. Teams like the 49ers and Cowboys displayed this year the value of having backup quarterbacks capable of winning games. Pushed into play due to injury, backup quarterbacks Cooper Rush, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Brock Purdy went a combined 16-4 in their regular season starts. While Rush is available, as are other options like Sam Darnold, Jacoby Brissett, and Andy Dalton, Baker Mayfield may make the most sense. Mayfield is an affordable option after flaming out a bit in Cleveland and Carolina, but he showed he still has the ability to compete in the waning games of the season with the Rams. He’s fairly young, having been drafted the same year as Jackson, while still experienced, and he specifically has experience in the AFC North. Mayfield also has a formidable talent for running the ball that wouldn’t require new offensive coordinator Todd Monken to switch things up too much when he’s in. Whether or not the former division rival is the answer, it’s become clear that backups Tyler Huntley and Anthony Brown can’t carry the team when Jackson is absent.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/quarterback/all/

$$4-5? Mayfield will get far more then that, there are bottom league starters making 12mil.. backups like rush and others sure around 6mil is going rate but Dalton only got 3mil last year so maybe Rush is being a bit overvalued and overrated at this point IMHO. He is not better than Andy Dalton maybe close to the same but Andy's been real starter in this league and produced pretty well, i believe guy like Baker will be a starter or backup job where he will compete for the starting position in TC ,he will get a much larger contract then rush.

 

[xwalker]

they won't pay the price for a high paid backup ... last time we invested in that was Kyle Orton ......

The point is that zero teams would sign a 20M+ QB and keep their 40M QB.

 

[CowboyFanInLexKy]

? We don't know what would have happened if Dak played those games instead of Rush.

Maybe more interceptions to his collection.

 

[blueblood70]

The point is that zero teams would sign a 20M+ QB and keep their 40M QB.

right most teams with bonified starter have a B/U under rookie contracts or a vet for around 3-7mil.. so the ? is who do we bring in if not having Rush, what would you pay rush? 4-5mil? is there another BU for the same $$ that better than Rush?