Cooper Rush's replacement?

xwalker

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right most teams with bonified starter have a B/U under rookie contracts or a vet for around 3-7mil.. so the ? is who do we bring in if not having Rush, what would you pay rush? 4-5mil? is there another BU for the same $$ that better than Rush?
Any backup QBs that know McCarthy offense?

They kept Will Grier for 2 years. Is he capable as the #2 QB? The 3rd spot should go to a draft pick.
 

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I ask again, are wins/losses a QB stat?

I want the team to win. if the defense doesn't hold up, rush gives us Zero chance. his last two games clearly showed that. he has been figured out. it took 4 game films to do that. you aren't going to win many games being in the mid to low 20s on offense. if you can't get past the 23 point mark, you are not going to win many games in the NFL. if you depend on the defense to score for you to have a chance, then you are not going to win many games.

but I get it, "I Hate Dak" so I am going to jump on Rush Crush bandwagon and just point to wins/losses. football be damned.

- If your backup QB is winning why do you need a stat sheet ?
If your backup QB is helping winning ..why does he sux ?

- It's sounding like you wanting and looking for "Style points".

- And that’s just it with needing/counting on defense to win … with a backup QB situation, it's the likelihood of
everyone needing to step it up that much more… defense has to hold that much more... cuz the backup QB is in, it's gonna be limited,
its; a reason why he is a backup, and not a starter . so as a team, as a whole, you have to work that much harder.

- And that’s not just us, the Cowboys .. that’s a league wide thing.

- As coaches, you scheme and plan to help minimize his limits and weaknesses, and scheme to emphasize what that backup can do best to
have a chance to help to win, until your starter can return. Play within himself, be more selective in picking his spots, manage without the mistakes.

- The one thing I’ve said that i'd like to have competition vs Cooper is because Rush is gonna get older, that already limited arm is not gonna get any stronger,
and he’s not gonna be any more athletic than what he limited is now..

- So plan ahead, don't wait til we hit that reality bring wall again (as many times we;ve done that, wall and all) and a developing guy that presents physical tools
that a Rush cannot give you, .. and you 'll have a lot more that can help make the game easier for us to win, ..

- BTW, .. i'll leave all of the Dak -hate discussion (and overkill) for all ya''ll guys - Enjoy ..

:popcorn:
 

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If Duggan is around in the late 3rd and 4th rounds, the Cowboys need to get him. He is an overachiever and hard worker. His size is not great at 6'2 but it is satisfactory Same as Dak, Hurts, Mahomes..... Jerry seems infatuated by him and that's a plus. We shall see.
From what I’ve read Duggan should be there in the 5th or 6th. And I’d be down for drafting him.
 

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- If your backup QB is winning why do you need a stat sheet ?
If your backup QB is helping winning ..why does he sux ?

- It's sounding like you wanting and looking for "Style points".

- And that’s just it with needing/counting on defense to win … with a backup QB situation, it's the likelihood of
everyone needing to step it up that much more… defense has to hold that much more... cuz the backup QB is in, it's gonna be limited,
its; a reason why he is a backup, and not a starter . so as a team, as a whole, you have to work that much harder.

- And that’s not just us, the Cowboys .. that’s a league wide thing.

- As coaches, you scheme and plan to help minimize his limits and weaknesses, and scheme to emphasize what that backup can do best to
have a chance to help to win, until your starter can return. Play within himself, be more selective in picking his spots, manage without the mistakes.

- The one thing I’ve said that i'd like to have competition vs Cooper is because Rush is gonna get older, that already limited arm is not gonna get any stronger,
and he’s not gonna be any more athletic than what he limited is now..

- So plan ahead, don't wait til we hit that reality bring wall again (as many times we;ve done that, wall and all) and a developing guy that presents physical tools
that a Rush cannot give you, .. and you 'll have a lot more that can help make the game easier for us to win, ..

- BTW, .. i'll leave all of the Dak -hate discussion (and overkill) for all ya''ll guys - Enjoy ..

:popcorn:
if you don't look at the stat sheet then you miss the forest because of the trees. was it the defense that did? or was it the offense? then you might tell yourself, I got my backup position solidified and we are happy, then you get into a situation like 2020 and end up with Dalton, Danucci, etc. and you craap yourself. so having a 20th plus offense is not going to get you much in wins. there was not one winning team ranked offensively from 20th on down. so no stats don't matter. but how you get to wins does. forest. trees.

and you want everyone to step up. don't disagree. but is it sustainable? again 2020 said no. remember that defense? and the last two games of Rush, was one very lucky outing when defense gifted them 9 points (literally by scoring a TD) and he craaped out against Eagles. sorry, but I never though we had a Ravensque defense to get us through the season.

and you can only scheme so much. you can depend on luck so much. again, I don't have a Rush Crush like you do. I think we can stand to upgrade and I won't shed a tear about Rush being gone. I am not fooled by the 4-1 record as you are.

and I think you and I are in agreement. we need to get better at backup QB. I mentioned Minshew. would prefer him more than I would Rush.

yeah, the dak haters and dak lovers will have their dak-bates....leave it to them.
 

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They could just pay Rush.

He wins football games.

That’s all that matters.
 

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dak can be rush's replacement, maybe this time he will learn while watching rush or another quarterback.
 

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Id like his replacement to have starting potential. Possibly someone in the draft. Dak might benefit from a QB room that’s a bit more competitive, and not so deferential.
We can’t afford to use a top pick on a QB and that’s where you get true competition
We have a starting CB leaving and another coming off an injury, we are losing our starting guard. We need another WR
Some may get filled in FA but our top 4 rounds we need guys who can contribute now
 

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Is English your first or second language, Amador?
Actually, second....I'm educated in the US, but my bones came from Mexico.
My name is Gustavo....not Amador. People call me sir or coach. Show some respect
 
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The NFL world would explode if they let LJ walk and signed a guy like Darnold or Mayfield. BUT as far as team building goes I wouldn't pay LJ either.
My list of overpaid mega contract QB's:
Dak, Cousins, Tannehill, Goff, Wentz, Watson /bc of the PR nightmare/
(soon to join this list-- LJ and Hurts)

FWIW Dak is not that much better than Rush. Better arm but slower decision making.
Let's review that last statement. Now you said Dak is not that much better than Rush, correct? OK. Let me start off by saying that I don't think Dak is elite and he's probably not what we need moving forward to reach higher goals. This year may answer all of those questions.

With that said, Dak has been in the NFL for 7 seasons, but has really only played 6 due to injury.

Rush has played in the NFL for 6 seasons.... yet he's been a career practice squad player, he's been annually released and brought back on the practice squad. He struggles to pass for 100 yards in games. Hmmm....

Dak has started in the NFL since he came out of college as a 4th rounder and has pretty much outplayed every quarterback from round one to the final round in his draft class and earned himself a max contract.

Which quarterback did Rush play better in his draft class? Was Rush even drafted? If Rush and Dak was so close in skillset, how is it that Dak average probably 200 more yards passing than Rush? How come Rush never got a max contract?

Wait... wait... let me guess. Rush is so good that nobody came clamoring for his services and all 31 other GMs, scouts and coaches just missed the boat on the great unknown and talented Mr. Cooper Rush huh..... LOL!!!
 

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I know this is putting the cart before the horse a bit but it's a fair issue IMO. I can't find a clear market value but have seen $4-5M range. That would put him in the same range as Brissett, Darnold, and Mayfield. It's likely going to come down to how we are willing to spend to keep Coop from possibly replacing Chase Daniel as Herbert's backup. Daniel is not only a free agent but word is he may be retiring. Who you think Kellen's pushing to help Herbert and the Charger's offense learn his system? In other words, Coop's $4-5M value to the Cowboys can easily be $6-8M with the Chargers. So we could very be in the market for a vet backup.....

  • A few names I like .......Mike White, Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Darnold ( all should be in $3-6M range )


https://www.profootballrumors.com/
  • One position that definitely makes sense for the Ravens to upgrade in free agency is backup quarterback. In a more recent breakdown, Zrebiec discussed why it would be important to sign an established backup. The past two seasons in Baltimore have ended with Jackson on the sideline dealing with injury. In the 12 games that Jackson has either sat out or left with injury in the last two years, the Ravens are 4-8, not including their lone playoff loss without Jackson. Teams like the 49ers and Cowboys displayed this year the value of having backup quarterbacks capable of winning games. Pushed into play due to injury, backup quarterbacks Cooper Rush, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Brock Purdy went a combined 16-4 in their regular season starts. While Rush is available, as are other options like Sam Darnold, Jacoby Brissett, and Andy Dalton, Baker Mayfield may make the most sense. Mayfield is an affordable option after flaming out a bit in Cleveland and Carolina, but he showed he still has the ability to compete in the waning games of the season with the Rams. He’s fairly young, having been drafted the same year as Jackson, while still experienced, and he specifically has experience in the AFC North. Mayfield also has a formidable talent for running the ball that wouldn’t require new offensive coordinator Todd Monken to switch things up too much when he’s in. Whether or not the former division rival is the answer, it’s become clear that backups Tyler Huntley and Anthony Brown can’t carry the team when Jackson is absent.


https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/quarterback/all/
Will Grier and a draft pick.
 

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They pretty much telegraphed the league that they intend to get a quarterback. However, they do not have favorable draft position in the top two rounds as far as where the talent lines up. I think they will get shut out in the top three rounds and end up with a 5th or 6th round quarterback. I don't think he will be the backup.

Ultimately, I think they will grab a veteran leftover just before the start of the regular season.
 

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Awesome another post that will turn into Dak Sucks, Rush is better / Dak is great vs Rush is no comparison -

To the original notes of the post without talking about getting rid of Dak (GET OVER IT
EVERYONE!! Dak and his current contract vs fiscal cap issues basically states he ISNT BEING REPLACED OR GOING ANYWHERE THIS SEASON —-PERIOD!!!)

So, for backup
I would use later round pick on qb
Or sign a perennial backup who has experience with WCO
There are a few names out there
This is assuming Rush is signed elsewhere
No team with either under center will win a SB.
 
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