Coughlin Calls For NFL Response to Flozell

[utrunner07]

If they weren't on the football field, yeah, someone could, and possibly would, file that as an assault.

Hey genius, if they weren't on a football field 99% of the players could be charged for physical assault (baring Bobby Carpenter). Flozell had a late hit, and that is all it was, a late hit, 15 yard penalty.

 

[utrunner07]

I am thinking that two things will happen:

1) Flo gets suspended

2) We find out that our line play does not decline any significant percentage with Flo out, which means we should have moved on from the lousy player at the end of the Campo era.

Yeah here is what will happen if Flo gets suspended:

1) you and your type get an eye opener and sneak off and say nothing about how wrong you have been and then the next time he gets a false start you start up your BS again and piss and moan about how bad he is. If he is suspended I am making a thread just for you to apologize in and you better show up and at least pretend to be a man. Flozell shut down a pretty potent pass rush on Sunday...but yeah, he is lousy

What I bolded is probably the dumbest thing I have seen on here, suprised it came from you. Flo may have lost a step in the past couple years but calling him lousy? Makes you look incredibly ignorant and flat out dumb. Go watch some other LTs.

 

[Cover 2]

There is no place for what he did in pro football, but that alone isn't the problem. It's a pattern of behavior he was already warned about by the league office earlier this season.

Flozell will be suspended. If Cowboys management had any balls they'd do it themselves.

So you think Flo should be suspended for pushing someone?

LMAO seriously?

 

[erickb]

Here comes a new "Cowboy" rule:

The Flozel Shove

 

[utrunner07]

So you think Flo should be suspended for pushing someone?

LMAO seriously?

They hate flo, they want him off the field, they don't care why they are looking for any excuse they can get. Its beyond disgusting. Not a single one of them are fans.

 

[AmishCowboy]

Yeah here is what will happen if Flo gets suspended:

1) you and your type get an eye opener and sneak off and say nothing about how wrong you have been and then the next time he gets a false start you start up your BS again and piss and moan about how bad he is. If he is suspended I am making a thread just for you to apologize in and you better show up and at least pretend to be a man. Flozell shut down a pretty potent pass rush on Sunday...but yeah, he is lousy

What I bolded is probably the dumbest thing I have seen on here, suprised it came from you. Flo may have lost a step in the past couple years but calling him lousy? Makes you look incredibly ignorant and flat out dumb. Go watch some other LTs.

 

[Cover 2]

They hate flo, they want him off the field, they don't care why they are looking for any excuse they can get. Its beyond disgusting. Not a single one of them are fans.

Either that or they have no concept of how sports are actually played. This isn't a church league (or synagogue league or mosque league), it's professional. I've seen guys get pushed after plays all the time. It's a 15 yard penalty. I've never seen a suspension result from a push. That would be incredibly weak.

 

[YosemiteSam]

He deserves to be suspended.

 

[WoodysGirl]

What is the point of even saying it then? Everything done on the field of play during an NFL football game could be filed as assault off the field.

Cuz I can. back atcha.

Just more flo hate.

More Flo hate by who? I like Flo. Always have and will be one of the few who dreads the day he retires.

However, throwing out something about how his actions could be considered is not hating on him. He did something boneheaded. Is that really hating on him when acknowledging that fact?

 

[TD-33]

He deserves to be suspended.

He deserves a raise.

 

[Hoofbite]

Such a stupid move. I cannot believe he would lose his cool like that.

Complete lack of discipline.

 

[vta]

Such a stupid move. I cannot believe he would lose his cool like that.

This if Flo we're talking about. Fined 25 grand in one season, before this incident? Easy to believe. I don't think he should be suspended, even if you look at the cumulative aspect of it.

Typical Giants, lobbying for intervention.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I hope this isn't my homerism coming through, but what Flo did, was it that bad that deserves a suspension? He shoved someone. This is football. I've seen ALOT dirtier stuff than that, not warrant a suspension.

It was bush league, I'll give you that, but I don't think there was an intent to hurt a guy, or end his season. I've recieved worse pushes than that in mosh pits at Marilyn Manson concerts.

I dunno, maybe I'm just a homer, but I think alot of this is getting blown out of proportion like Flo dived at his knees or something.

No homerism -- you are 100% correct. I can't believe the crap I'm reading about Flo being suspended for a shove in the back. Give me a break.

And BTW, I think at least part of what Coughlin is saying is that if there's a flag, it's wrong for penalty yardage to not be assessed somewhere. And he's right about that.

But this acting like Flozell is Albert Haynesworth is ridiculous.

 

[Hoofbite]

So you think Flo should be suspended for pushing someone?

LMAO seriously?

It wasn't just a push. It was after the play while everyone was on their way to the locker room.

It's just completely out of line. It didn't hurt at all but it is an absolutely pathetic show of sportsmanship and totally uncalled for.

Anyone choosing wear the blinders is being stubborn to the nth degree.

 

[Cover 2]

It wasn't just a push. It was after the play while everyone was on their way to the locker room.

It's just completely out of line. It didn't hurt at all but it is an absolutely pathetic show of sportsmanship and totally uncalled for.

Anyone choosing wear the blinders is being stubborn to the nth degree.

LMAO me wearing blinders? I was the one that started the Pessimists Unite!!! thread. I just think it's ridiculous to suspend someone for a push. It happens all the time after plays are over. Should he be fined? Yes. But a suspension is over the top. If this had happened 30 years ago do you think anyone at all would be talking about a suspension?

 

[FanSince61]

I believe he will get a 1 game suspension. Not necessarily for what he did, but the fact that the fines this season are mounting. Kind of like when Roy Williams got suspended. It wasn't for one tackle, it was for multiple fouls.

Especially since the league warned him that any other offenses could result in a suspension.

 

[dozin_theknick]

You're really comparing stomping on a star with what amounts to a physical assault?

:laugh2:

And you are calling a shove during an NFL football game assault?

 

[random Cs]

Ok, let's say the NFL suspends him. We all know he will appeal. Does that hold up the suspension until the appeal process has completed?

No, once you appeal you are given a hearing and can continue team activities until the final ruling. You have 10 days to appeal, however the NFL can administer the suspension immediately.

Coughlin's pissed because he screwed up when he declined the penalty , he looked like a dope.

And he's right.

Coughlin's complaint is that the penalty is automatically declined by the officials.

It makes him look like a dope and unprotected of his players.

 

[WoodysGirl]

And you are calling a shove during an NFL football game assault?

I've already explained my comment. Read further.

 

[DallasEast]

If previous fines plus a shove equals suspension, what's stopping teams from seeking to penalize shoving with a fine? Afterwards, if a player has been fined on several occasions for shoving, he will be automatically suspended.

That seems to be the logical progression here, even though I disagree. If players accumulate fines for in-game transgression which could or did impact the healthy well-being of another player, a suspension would be necessary in my opinion.

Let's review Adams' 2009 fine timeline:

1) Against Tampa Bay, he was fined for unnecessary roughness for taking a swing a player's head.

2) Against New York, he was fined for both tripping Tuck and kicking Umenyiora.

3) Against Carolina, he was fined for kicking at Julius Peppers.

A punch could have led to a head injury. Tripping and kicking could have led to a bodily injury. Any of these three incidents could have impacted the health of another player.

Should a suspension be enforced for the above? It's debatable, but understandable. Teams want healthy players and Adams could have theoretically injured all three of them (As far as I know, Tuck was the only player to have sustained an actual injury).

He wasn't though. Presently, a supposed suspension looms over Adams for NOT potentially inflicting another theoretical injury along with the previous three instances. Disciplinary action may come as a result of one act of tripping (FOUL!), two acts of kicking (DOUBLE FOUL!)and a shove (OH LOOK! HE FELL DOWN!).

Whatever. Do what you have to, Goodell. You will still have my support, but I hope you will comprehend what the consequences of a possible suspension could eventually lead to. If I were an opposing coach, I would seek to have the other team's player(s) repeatedly disciplined for shoving. As a result, they would potentially accumulate enough fines for a suspension review and PRESTO! That guy's riding the bench.

You think that's outlandish? I would then ask you to pay close attention to what will or will not happen to Adams this week.