Coughlin-led Giants won't let us in

[visionary]

If the giants do what they typically do they will be sitting at home come playoff time as they have done for the 5 of the last 6 years. Dude stop it. Not only are you pushing an agenda, it's a bogus untrue unfactual agenda at that.

What is "unfactual" (lol) about it?
From where both teams are today, if the Giants play to their average for last 7 games under coughlin and we play to our average under Garrett they will be in the playoffs and we will be out

That is a fact

 

[gimmesix]

So you will take their "typical" season but our best season by far ?

Thank for making my point for me

Didn't say that. I said we went 6-1 down the stretch in our most reason season. It doesn't mean we'll do it again, but I don't see why we don't have just as much of a chance of that as the Giants have of being better than .500 down the stretch, which they rarely have done and have not done since 2010.

If you want to read into that that I'm saying we'll go 7-0, then see what you will. I hope that will happen, of course, but that doesn't mean I think it's likely.

If you want to read into it that I'm saying the Giants will probably go .500 down the stretch, then you read it correctly. That's what they have been so I don't see any reason to believe they will finish better than 4-2 in the final six games. Will that be good enough to win the East? I don't know. Philly or Washington could still win it at this point, and yes, we have an outside chance because none of the rest of the teams have pulled away during our 0-7 run.

 

[Jstopper]

What is "unfactual" (lol) about it?
From where both teams are today, if the Giants play to their average for last 7 games under coughlin and we play to our average under Garrett they will be in the playoffs and we will be out

That is a fact

If the giants play to their average they will be sitting at home like they have for 5 of the last 6 years. Lol I swear if we win a Superbowl this year all of you guys better have as much patience for Garrett as you do Coughlin if we go 5 years with no playoffs after that. As much as people talk about our greatness is in the past, what other Superbowl winning coach in today's NFL can miss the playoffs 5 years but get a pass because they have a ring from half a decade ago.

 

[Shunpike]

When I get depressed about my Giants, I come here to Cowboys Zone to feel good about Giants again. So many threads about the greatness of either Coughlin or Eli. Both of them are nothing special and this Giants team in particular has nothing to do with the likes of 2007 and 2011 teams.

Eagles will win the division and Giants will end up not making the playoffs for 5 years in a row.

 

[visionary]

If the giants play to their average they will be sitting at home like they have for 5 of the last 6 years. Lol I swear if we win a Superbowl this year all of you guys better have as much patience for Garrett as you do Coughlin if we go 5 years with no playoffs after that. As much as people talk about our greatness is in the past, what other Superbowl winning coach in today's NFL can miss the playoffs 5 years but get a pass because they have a ring from half a decade ago.

No one said Coughlin is a great HC, he is a good HC
Unfortunately we have a bad HC
Plenty of criticism for coughlin too from Giants fans despite having won 2 SBs and here people like you are making excuse after excuse for a HC who has done nothing in 5 years with a top 5-7 qb

 

[Jstopper]

When I get depressed about my Giants, I come here to Cowboys Zone to feel good about Giants again. So many threads about the greatness of either Coughlin or Eli. Both of them are nothing special and this Giants team in particular has nothing to do with the likes of 2007 and 2011 teams.

Eagles will win the division and Giants will end up not making the playoffs for 5 years in a row.

Lol don't let @visionary hear you say that. All hail the praises of the coach who has his team miss the playoffs 5 years in a row But won a ring forever ago

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Perspective:

-> We lost games because we couldnt stop opponents with their last drive. Conclusion- on this board: We have big problems. we cant put games away. We wont make it this year.
-> The giants lost games because they couldnt stop opponents with their last drive. Concusion in this post: The giants are just short of being 9-1. They wont let us in. They could win the SB.

Nothing against your post and i didnt meant to offend you. This is your opinion and i respect it.

I just do think that this is a good example of how many people post alot here just out of opinion and gut-feeling and without knowledge and the understanding of facts. Else this forum would really have a better discussion culture.

Its also a good example of how 95% of the media works these days. Just hype a trend. Facts or deeper understanding doesnt matter. Thats ok for me. What frightens me is to see how many people actualy cant differ between good journalism and tha crap we get to read about our team or the NFL in common.

Not offended at all my friend.
Disagree with media comparison. Actually doesn't make any sense to my thread.

1.) I said "concern"
2.) the Cowboys coach and Giants coach are two different animals. It's been proven already.
3.) Eli can be trusted more than Romo. It's proven already.

I am actually anti-media and their bs approach.
Again, "concern"...
Again, not offended... We boys ;-)


I agree with your last sentence 1000%

 

[Jstopper]

Not offended at all my friend.
Disagree with media comparison. Actually doesn't make any sense to my thread.

1.) I said "concern"
2.) the Cowboys coach and Giants coach are two different animals. It's been proven already.
3.) Eli can be trusted more than Romo. It's proven already.

I am actually anti-media and their bs approach.
Again, "concern"...
Again, not offended... We boys ;-)


I agree with your last sentence 1000%

Eli can be trusted more than Romo? Lol okay. Statements like that are what made that other poster paint you as a giants fan.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Eli can be trusted more than Romo?

You reply paints you as in denial of the facts.

Lol okay. Statements like that are what made that other poster paint you as a giants fan.

No one here believes I am a Giants fan.
They don't like what I post about a proven leader and super bowl winner and that's all they got.... "You are a Giants fan"... Lol silly

 

[Jstopper]

No one here believes I am a Giants fan.
They don't like what I post about a proven leader and super bowl winner and that's all they got.... "You are a Giants fan"... Lol silly

Eli is a glorified Trent Dilfer. You grab All the GM in the league and ask them to take Eli or Romo you probably wont get 3 votes for Eli.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Eli is a glorified Trent Dilfer. You grab All the GM in the league and ask them to take Eli or Romo you probably wont get 3 votes for Eli.

It's statements like that made by anyone that Eli is less than average or lucky or just good enough or the rest of the team won it for him ... That separate football people from interwebs experts.

I would take that bet about 3 GMs and you would lose.... Not by a little.... By a lot!
Half the GMs would want him.

Seriously this is silly and so are you.

I would rather Romo have the 2 sb wins... But he doesn't.... Elk earned them. Facts.

 

[Jstopper]

It's statements like that made by anyone that Eli is less than average or lucky or just good enough or the rest of the team won it for him ... That separate football people from interwebs experts.

I would take that bet about 3 GMs and you would lose.... Not by a little.... By a lot!
Half the GMs would want him.

Seriously this is silly and so are you.

I would rather Romo have the 2 sb wins... But he doesn't.... Elk earned them. Facts.

Lol half of the Giants fan base themselves are over Eli and his interceptions and youre so starved for a Superbowl that you're making idiotic statements like this, and being blinded to the fact that you have a quarterback way better than the glorified Trent dilfer. I suppose going that long without a Superbowl can do that to you. Championships are a team accomplishment, qb is one position. And Romo plays that position at a level Eli wishes he could ever see.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Lol half of the Giants fan base themselves are over Eli and his interceptions and youre so starved for a Superbowl that you're making idiotic statements like this, and being blinded to the fact that you have a quarterback way better than the glorified Trent dilfer. I suppose going that long without a Superbowl can do that to you. Championships are a team accomplishment, qb is one position. And Romo plays that position at a level Eli wishes he could ever see.

Giants fans are friggin idiots.

And again, you are wrong, these clowns here in New York are all talking about the Giants making a super bowl run.


Look, Romo wins super bowl then all is beautiful. If not, it is what it is. Nice career. Nice stats. Nothing more.
To date, he had two legit runs to super bowl and he blew it.

 

[Jstopper]

Giants fans are friggin idiots.

And again, you are wrong, these clowns here in New York are all talking about the Giants making a super bowl run.


Look, Romo wins super bowl then all is beautiful. If not, it is what it is. Nice career. Nice stats. Nothing more.
To date, he had two legit runs to super bowl and he blew it.

Smh apparently you have your mind made up and youre entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong it is. I'll agree to disagree

 

[CooterBrown]

Forget the Giants. The Commanders are the competition. They play the Eagles, Giants, and 2x Cowboys. If they win those 4 they probably win the division. If they split with the Cowboys they probably win the division. As usual, the last week of the season will determine the NFC East. Giants v Eagles, and Cowboys v Commanders.

 

[Wayne02]

Forget the Giants. The Commanders are the competition. They play the Eagles, Giants, and 2x Cowboys. If they win those 4 they probably win the division. If they split with the Cowboys they probably win the division. As usual, the last week of the season will determine the NFC East. Giants v Eagles, and Cowboys v Commanders.

The Giants own the Commanders so they're probably not winning that game, and they'll probably split with the Cowboys and Eagles. Outside of playing spoiler for the eventual division champion, they're not a threat IMO.

 

[Corso]

It was my concern last year that they would get their act together this year.

This is what I see:

1. Coughlin getting a lot from his players. Especially defense.
2. Giants have had lead in final 2 minutes of what, 4 losses. These fudgers could be 9-1.
3. I really hate to think the Eli/Giants go for 3rd super bowl... Vs... Who else..... The ones they arevthevdaddy to... The pats.

I may have to move out of New York if gumby ends up with 3 super bowl wins.... 3 sb mvp's... And Romo never even gets to one title game.

Come to El Paso; Weather's great. If the oceans rise, we don't care, not going to touch us.
We may be on the border, but our police and military presence is so sound, we've had the lowest crime rate in the Galaxy for several millenia. I fact checked that, by the way...
Well... Except for the stray bullets from Juarez every now and then, but you get to recognizing the sounds of gunfire from afar rather quickly, I've come to learn it personally so you should be good, if you're at the least semi-decent in acoustic-location.

The women are beautiful, the traffic is nothing compared to big cities and we have a minor league baseball team named...
The Chihuahuas!

Come on now... it gets no better than that.

You know what? I'm going to petition this to be the slogan of El Paso:
It Gets No Better Than This!

You snicker while I compile royalty checks in my imaginary world of City Hyping for money.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Smh apparently you have your mind made up and youre entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong it is. I'll agree to disagree

Opinions can't be wrong.

I'll buy the beers when Romo wins SB. GO COWBOYS,

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Come to El Paso; Weather's great. If the oceans rise, we don't care, not going to touch us.
We may be on the border, but our police and military presence is so sound, we've had the lowest crime rate in the Galaxy for several millenia. I fact checked that, by the way...
Well... Except for the stray bullets from Juarez every now and then, but you get to recognizing the sounds of gunfire from afar rather quickly, I've come to learn it personally so you should be good, if you're at the least semi-decent in acoustic-location.

The women are beautiful, the traffic is nothing compared to big cities and we have a minor league baseball team named...
The Chihuahuas!

Come on now... it gets no better than that.

You know what? I'm going to petition this to be the slogan of El Paso:
It Gets No Better Than This!

You snicker while I compile royalty checks in my imaginary world of City Hyping for money.

Not snickering at all! I love it!

But.... I only want to visit.
That means Giants didn't win... Or...
Cowboys won and I get to rub it in Giants fans faces with comments like, "one Cowboys super bowl win is BETTER than the two giants super bowl wins. Yeah, I Believe that... And I have used it before and they don't like that...because Cowboys are royalty. It just is.

 

[Fredd]

I want to start with a win this week, and THEN I will start to worry about thanksgiving....but, being in NE Penna, the only good thing about being a football fan here is that the eagles have been almost as pathetic as dallas and the giants aren't much better

I look at it like baseball, 2 1/2 back with 7 to play...I will take those odds