Coughlin-led Giants won't let us in

visionary

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For Dallas. Self explanatory. Keep on trucking good buddy. You win. I obviously was trying to trick you into believing it was Matt's first start eva because there's no other way to refute your point that a team Dallas had beaten five times in a row is much more successful than Dallas. Clarence Darrow couldn't pierce the airtight case you made by just saying that ridiculousness.

Like I said
Back tracking
If Garrett had even sniffed a SB you would be on your knees worshipping him yet you would denigrate the guy who led his team to 2 SB wins

Pathetic
 

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The Giants are a .500 team. I have yet to figure out why anyone believes they'll end up being anything more than that at the end of the season.

We're two losses behind them and I've little doubt that New York will lose at least two games. The question is whether we can run the table.

I won't be surprised to see an 8-8 team win the East this year, though.

You know, this post was probably made in both 2007 and 2011 as well.
 

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The Giants are a .500 team. I have yet to figure out why anyone believes they'll end up being anything more than that at the end of the season.

We're two losses behind them and I've little doubt that New York will lose at least two games. The question is whether we can run the table.

I won't be surprised to see an 8-8 team win the East this year, though.

I was just thinking this. Giants aren't that good. Hell the whole division sucks. If tony was playing we'd run away w this division. I just hope it's not too late for us
 

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"Not the norm"? Lol
No coach takes their team on a SB run as a norm

The guy had won 2 SBs since we were in an NFC CG

Please god let the craziness and excuse making stop

Fine. You are right, Super Bowl runs are not the norm. So why should we expect the Giants to go on one instead of doing what they typically have done and go .500 in their final six games?
 

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You know, this post was probably made in both 2007 and 2011 as well.

Yes, and posts saying watch out for the Giants because they might run the table were probably made in 2012, 2013 and 2014 as well.

I don't discount the fact that any team can get hot at the right time and go on a run because it's possible. It's just silly to think just because the Giants did it and 2007 and 2011 that they are poised to do it again. Coughlin has shown that he can lead a team on a magical run and to mediocrity. I believe the team he has this year is closer to mediocrity than magical. Doesn't mean the Giants won't win the East because they might can do that at 9-7 or 8-8.
 

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yes thats what happens when your a show off !
also great play by defender.

Yeah looked like a show off or maybe even trying to place ball away from defender.
Who knows.

Glad they lost. Lol

Butler is ok ..... But I tell you what.... His middle name is going to be changed Malcolm "all I do is make game winning plays" Butler. That is a product of belicheck. Probably told him. Sb is over. Thank you. Show me something now, next game....? No live no on that play in belichecks world.
 

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The Giants, Eagles, and Commanders are all 8-8 at best.

If Dallas can get to 8-8, they win the tiebreakers most likely.

Steep hill, but a lot of football left, and Dallas has the best QB in the division by a mile.
 

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I was just thinking this. Giants aren't that good. Hell the whole division sucks. If tony was playing we'd run away w this division. I just hope it's not too late for us

The biggest plus for the Giants to come out of the New England game is that they were able to generate a pass rush (with JPP returning) after not having much of one this season. (Of course, we also had one of our best pass-rushing games against the Patriots.) If they can find enough defense to support their offense, then they become a threat because Eli is a good enough QB to succeed with enough support.
 

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I am confused. Are people trying to have a debate on Garrett versus Coughlin?
 

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Fine. You are right, Super Bowl runs are not the norm. So why should we expect the Giants to go on one instead of doing what they typically have done and go .500 in their final six games?

Yeah, but expecting us to go 7-0 is ok because that is what we have typically done in the final 7 games? Lol

Fact is if we and the Giants do what we have typically done in the last 7 games from here on out, the Giants will make the playoffs and we won't

Like I said, please let the craziness stop
 

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It was my concern last year that they would get their act together this year.

This is what I see:

1. Coughlin getting a lot from his players. Especially defense.
2. Giants have had lead in final 2 minutes of what, 4 losses. These fudgers could be 9-1.
3. I really hate to think the Eli/Giants go for 3rd super bowl... Vs... Who else..... The ones they arevthevdaddy to... The pats.

I may have to move out of New York if gumby ends up with 3 super bowl wins.... 3 sb mvp's... And Romo never even gets to one title game.

Perspective:

-> We lost games because we couldnt stop opponents with their last drive. Conclusion- on this board: We have big problems. we cant put games away. We wont make it this year.
-> The giants lost games because they couldnt stop opponents with their last drive. Concusion in this post: The giants are just short of being 9-1. They wont let us in. They could win the SB.

Nothing against your post and i didnt meant to offend you. This is your opinion and i respect it.

I just do think that this is a good example of how many people post alot here just out of opinion and gut-feeling and without knowledge and the understanding of facts. Else this forum would really have a better discussion culture.

Its also a good example of how 95% of the media works these days. Just hype a trend. Facts or deeper understanding doesnt matter. Thats ok for me. What frightens me is to see how many people actualy cant differ between good journalism and tha crap we get to read about our team or the NFL in common.
 
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Unfortunately I have to agree with you. These Giants should be a really krappy team and yet they have been playing so much over their talent level. Their OL sucks, their def sucks, many many injuries and yeti they still seem to be hanging in there pulling the Rope A Dope. God if Eli were to get another SB ring I mayor gave to leave NY as well. Anybody but the Giants pls...Personally I love how the Panthers play defense.

Washington
Buffalo
San Francisco (barely)
Dallas (barely)
Tampa Bay (barely)

Outside of Buffalo (without McCoy and Watkins if I recall), they've not really beaten anyone who they wouldn't expected to.
 

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Yeah, but expecting us to go 7-0 is ok because that is what we have typically done in the final 7 games? Lol

Fact is if we and the Giants do what we have typically done in the last 7 games from here on out, the Giants will make the playoffs and we won't

Like I said, please let the craziness stop

The Giants have typically gone 3-3 with 2007 and 2011 being aberrations. So if they make the playoffs, it will likely be at 8-8 or 9-7. Last year, Dallas went 6-1 in its final seven games.

You're living in a farther away past than those who believe there's a better chance of Dallas achieving 7-0 with Romo than the Giants going on a run.

Now, I'm realistic enough to know how difficult it will be for Dallas to go 7-0, so while I want that, I won't be surprised if it happens. I'm also realistic enough that the Giants haven't had a lot of success down the stretch in the past few years.

The only real craziness around here is believing that the Giants will go on some kind of playoff run while the Cowboys have no chance. It doesn't fit what they've most recently been. Both have made several changes this year, though, so who really knows how they'll play over the next few weeks.

We've got to see how much of a difference Romo can make and the Giants have to see if they can put together enough support for their passing game.

Just to clarify what the Giants typically have done in the last six games (since that's what they have left), here are their records in those games since 2007:

2007 4-2

2008 3-3

2009 2-4

2010 4-2

2011 3-3

2012 3-3

2013 3-3

2014 3-3

So typically, even in those Super Bowl seasons, they are average or barely above average. It makes me wonder why people even bring up those seasons since this one isn't like those where the Giants started out 7-3 (before going 3-3) and 6-2 (before going 3-5).
 

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The Giants have typically gone 3-3 with 2007 and 2011 being aberrations. So if they make the playoffs, it will likely be at 8-8 or 9-7. Last year, Dallas went 6-1 in its final seven games.

You're living in a farther away past than those who believe there's a better chance of Dallas achieving 7-0 with Romo than the Giants going on a run.

Now, I'm realistic enough to know how difficult it will be for Dallas to go 7-0, so while I want that, I won't be surprised if it happens. I'm also realistic enough that the Giants haven't had a lot of success down the stretch in the past few years.

The only real craziness around here is believing that the Giants will go on some kind of playoff run while the Cowboys have no chance. It doesn't fit what they've most recently been. Both have made several changes this year, though, so who really knows how they'll play over the next few weeks.

We've got to see how much of a difference Romo can make and the Giants have to see if they can put together enough support for their passing game.

Just to clarify what the Giants typically have done in the last six games (since that's what they have left), here are their records in those games since 2007:

2007 4-2

2008 3-3

2009 2-4

2010 4-2

2011 3-3

2012 3-3

2013 3-3

2014 3-3

So typically, even in those Super Bowl seasons, they are average or barely above average. It makes me wonder why people even bring up those seasons since this one isn't like those where the Giants started out 7-3 (before going 3-3) and 6-2 (before going 3-5).

So you will take their "typical" season but our best season by far ?

Thank for making my point for me
 

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Yeah, but expecting us to go 7-0 is ok because that is what we have typically done in the final 7 games? Lol

Fact is if we and the Giants do what we have typically done in the last 7 games from here on out, the Giants will make the playoffs and we won't

Like I said, please let the craziness stop

If the giants do what they typically do they will be sitting at home come playoff time as they have done for the 5 of the last 6 years. Dude stop it. Not only are you pushing an agenda, it's a bogus untrue unfactual agenda at that.
 
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