Could Rob Petitti be the Odd man out??

md2005

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Reality said:
LOL .. this is no different than:

"Romo's going to be the starter because he played the whole first preseason game."

"Vanderjaqt is going to be cut if he doesn't get on the field soon."

etc.

Petitti will be on the team this year. The first 2-3 preseason games are for evaluating players he doesn't know .. he already knows what Petitti can do.

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And when exactly did he decide that he knows what Petite could do? Im not sure I follow that as he was a piece of junk last year. I was looking forward to seeing his improvement in the preseason but the lack of PT concerns me. I want the guy to suceed but I agree witht he other posters, he could be out
 

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3 Guards: Rivera, Procter, Kozier (who can play tackle)
2 centers: Johnson and Gurode (who can play RG)
4 Tackles: Adams, Columbo/Fabini/Petitti, and Pat McQ.

I don't think he could keep 10 based upon the kicker status and that none of the tackles can play guard.
I think you have the numbers nailed. The picture should be a little more clear with the Colombo/Fabini/Pettiti situation after this next game.
 

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md2005 said:
And when exactly did he decide that he knows what Petite could do? Im not sure I follow that as he was a piece of junk last year. I was looking forward to seeing his improvement in the preseason but the lack of PT concerns me. I want the guy to suceed but I agree witht he other posters, he could be out
Actually, if you go back and watch a lot of the games and pay attention to #52, you will see why the tackles gave up so many sacks .. Bledsoe had to move to the left and right so much due to pressure up the middle that he walked right into the outside pass rush.

I'm not saying Petitti is going to start this year, I'm simply saying he's not as bad as he was made out to be last year due to #52. I suspect he will either be the starting right tackle or swing tackle backup.

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BP has not bragged on Rob as much since training camp started.......
As odd as it may sound that is usually a good sign from Parcells. Remember how he bragged about DaleRoy Stewart and some of those guys who didn't make it out of camp.
 

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Yeah, it's Al Johnson's fault that Petitti and Tucker were credited with allowing 25 sacks.
 

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Yeah, it's Al Johnson's fault that Petitti and Tucker were credited with allowing 25 sacks.
Several of the sacks were caused by pressure up the middle. Last year, game after game I watched #52 stand there blocking air while defensive linemen and linebackers ran right by him without #52 even trying to touch them. If the defense was made of air, #52 would be an all-pro.

I don't hate #52 and I really hope he has improved this year. That being said, I don't believe that #52 would be a starter on any other team in the league including the Browns. I don't want him released, but I don't want to see him start until he learns how to do his blocking assignments correctly.

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Petitti should be the starter at RT, whether he is or not I'm not so sure about.
 

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I just don't understand why BP said McQ was ahead of Petitti at LT. If he is, Petitti must really suck at LT. I'm not sure I've seen much worse at LT than McQ's performance monday night. I think Tucker would be better there.
 

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I just don't understand why BP said McQ was ahead of Petitti at LT. If he is, Petitti must really suck at LT. I'm not sure I've seen much worse at LT than McQ's performance monday night. I think Tucker would be better there.
If you think about the question asked, it was "Who would be your starting LEFT tackle today?" If he still plans to play Petitti at right tackle, it would make sense that his starting left tackle would be Flozell or McQuistan if Flozell is still hurt.

I'm with you, McQuistan may turn out to be great, but he got schooled Monday night on multiple plays that I saw.

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If you think about the question asked, it was "Who would be your starting LEFT tackle today?" If he still plans to play Petitti at right tackle, it would make sense that his starting left tackle would be Flozell or McQuistan if Flozell is still hurt.

I'm with you, McQuistan may turn out to be great, but he got schooled Monday night on multiple plays that I saw.

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I just got through watching the first half again and my stomach is turning at the thought of Flo going down again. One can only hope that Fabini can still play LT.

I don't even want to think about McQ facing Umenyiora(sp?).
 

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he already knows what Petitti can do.

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so do the rest of us...there's a reason he is playing with the scrubs

and apparently McQ is starting at LT again tomorrow night

David
 

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You're assuming that Petitti isn't in the running for starting right tackle .. The reporter asked him about the LEFT TACKLE position .. the left tackle will be Flozell when the season starts. Who is to say that Petitti won't be the starting right tackle? Or the right tackle backup?

Don't assume Petitti is only going to make the team as a left tackle. Parcells said he wanted to get Petitti used to playing Left Tackle this preseason so he would have more depth on both sides.

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at some point if the guy is your starter you play him with the starters...he's hardly practiced at RT all of TC and he really hasnt played much in either of the preseason games...Saturday night is considerd the most important preseason game and he apparently 1) isnt going to play any snaps at RT again and 2) is not even starting at the position he is supposed to be the backup at when the starter isnt playing, instead the 7th rd pick is going to play LT again

he'll probably make the team, but like I said in another thread he isnt going to see the field any unless some people get hurt

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Several of the sacks were caused by pressure up the middle. Last year, game after game I watched #52 stand there blocking air while defensive linemen and linebackers ran right by him without #52 even trying to touch them. If the defense was made of air, #52 would be an all-pro.

I don't hate #52 and I really hope he has improved this year. That being said, I don't believe that #52 would be a starter on any other team in the league including the Browns. I don't want him released, but I don't want to see him start until he learns how to do his blocking assignments correctly.

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the center position wasnt that good last yr, but Johnson got exposed alot more for poor run blocking than bad pass blocking...the guy just gets blown up on run plays

when your starting tackles give up 26 or 27 sacks the problem is obvious...Petitti led the league in actual sacks allowed and is fortunate he didnt allow at least 5 or 6 others...

there is a reason he isnt playing RT right now...if he was a GOOD RT, the coaching staff wouldnt be having him play in scrub time at LT, he'd be in the starting lineup at RT...it isnt like Columbo and Fabini have been the 2nd comings of Erik Williams here, both of them have looked pretty average

David
 

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I don't think who starts these first few preseason games says much at all about who will start or be here long term.

To me, it looks like Parcells is using these preseason games to get some decent experience for the young pups. How valuable will these first few games be for those kids who were able to start a couple of games if they are thrown into the mix mid-season because of an injury?

Take Romo for instance. Wouldn't you feel better now if Bledsoe was unable to play for a few games? Same with all the o-lineman. Get the kids out of diapers as soon as possible in case you need them down the road.

IMO, I think Fabini gets cut and Parcells keeps youth and will rotate them in as much as situations allow. While Fabini has some experience, he's got no upside and no one is claiming he's been any more impressive than any of the young kids.

We'll see.
 

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Take Romo for instance. Wouldn't you feel better now if Bledsoe was unable to play for a few games? Same with all the o-lineman. Get the kids out of diapers as soon as possible in case you need them down the road.

IMO, I think Fabini gets cut and Parcells keeps youth and will rotate them in as much as situations allow. While Fabini has some experience, he's got no upside and no one is claiming he's been any more impressive than any of the young kids.

We'll see.

the OL is different than other positions, because you have to work together as a unit and develop cohesiveness, that takes reps...they are doing what they are doing for a reason, and the reason is they dont feel good about the RT position...if they thought Petitti was "the guy" he'd be out there getting valuable reps with the STARTERS, not playing in scrub time at a different position

David
 

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dbair1967 said:
the OL is different than other positions, because you have to work together as a unit and develop cohesiveness, that takes reps...they are doing what they are doing for a reason, and the reason is they dont feel good about the RT position...if they thought Petitti was "the guy" he'd be out there getting valuable reps with the STARTERS, not playing in scrub time at a different position

David

I understand what you're saying, but it looks to me that Parcells is taking a different tack. I could be wrong. I think Pettiti sticks and competes for the RT job. I think Fabini will get cut.

I could be way off as I'm no talent evaluator. For all either one of us knows, Parcells will cut both Pettiti and Fabini and pick up someone he thinks fits better when other teams make their cut downs.

I just wish the season would get underway so I can watch some REAL football.
 

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. I think Pettiti sticks and competes for the RT job. I think Fabini will get cut.

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I think Petitti makes the team, he just isnt going to start unless others are hurt

unless Columbo or Fabini really play well tomorrow night I really think they'll find a starting RT via trade...after seeing how a poor OL crippled the team last yr and that it still hasnt gotten much better so far, they'll be a little more desperate to find a solution now

also, I think if they had known in April that Petitti wasnt going to improve they wouldnt have passed on some of the OT's in the 2nd and 3rd rd

David
 
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