Could Rob Petitti be the Odd man out??

[burmafrd]

frankly some here just have a hate on for Petitti. Pretty sad. Just like the Bledsoe haters, romo haters, Henson haters, just plain blind and unwilling to admit any ability on the HATEE's part at all. Petitti is doing much better this then the way he ended last year- WHICH untill the last 3 games was not as bad as SOME here want you to believe. 1/2 of his sacks given up CAME in the LAST 3 GAMES when he was worn down, injured and had hit the wall.
BP knows he has a solid guy there and is looking hard at Columbo, McQ and Fabini to see what he has there.

 

[dbair1967]

BP knows he has a solid guy there and is looking hard at Columbo, McQ and Fabini to see what he has there.

if he knew he "had a solid guy there" he wouldnt be needing to look at Columbo and Fabini to "see what he has there"

are Terrance Newman and Anthony Henry sitting on the pine so they can "see what they have at CB"? No of course not...they are STARTERS playing with the STARTERS

its not "hating" on a guy, just because somebody doesnt think he's any good, or not good enough to be a solid starter...Petitti is what he is..a try hard guy thats best suited as a backup

David

 

[junk]

Actually, if you go back and watch a lot of the games and pay attention to #52, you will see why the tackles gave up so many sacks .. Bledsoe had to move to the left and right so much due to pressure up the middle that he walked right into the outside pass rush.

I'm not saying Petitti is going to start this year, I'm simply saying he's not as bad as he was made out to be last year due to #52. I suspect he will either be the starting right tackle or swing tackle backup.

-Reality

I know the guy gets a lot of love from TPTB around here since his Dad is a poster, but blaming his poor play on the center is a new one.

Petitti and Tucker were both subpar all of last year. I do hope he has improved and continues to, but trying to pass off his poor play on the center is laughable. He had plenty of problems on his own.

I do find it odd that he isn't playing more at that right tackle spot. If he was truly in the plans, I really hope he'd be getting more reps. I don't care if he did start 16 games, he needs the reps.

Like someone else said, I think BP is grooming him for that swing tackle position. I think McQ probably makes the team and is inactive most of the year leaving the third tackle to be a swing tackle.

 

[noshame]

Jeez this "hate" stuff is getting old.

I think Petitti did everything he was asked to do in the off season. Sadly, after just a few days of camp, I think the coaches decided he may not have the quicks to be an NFL caliber T.

Maybe they'll keep him if they can fit 10 on the roster, or if an injury occurs, but he's likely gone.

 

[Reality]

at some point if the guy is your starter you play him with the starters...

So, by that you're saying TO won't start the season if he doesn't play with the starters in preseason?

You are also saying Vanderjaqt won't start the season if he doesn't play with the starters in preseason?

Right now, Parcells needs a backup for Flozell and he knows what he will get from Petitti but Petitti may end up playing or backing up right tackle. If that happens, McQuistan is the one he is hoping to back up Flozell so it makes perfect sense that he's getting most of the evaluation and learning experience.

Saturday night is considerd the most important preseason game and he apparently 1) isnt going to play any snaps at RT again and 2) is not even starting at the position he is supposed to be the backup at when the starter isnt playing, instead the 7th rd pick is going to play LT again

In every other year, this is correct. However, Parcells has already said that Saturday's game against the 49ers will be the only time this season that they face a 3-4 defense and as such he is not preparing for it at all and in his words, it will cause them problems.

So, this upcoming game will be nothing more than a last minute evaluation of several fringe players and time to give the players Parcells is unsure about more play time.

he'll probably make the team, but like I said in another thread he isnt going to see the field any unless some people get hurt

That is quite possible. I'm not saying Petitti is all-pro, only that he's not as bad as he's been made out to be. To me, he played like a rookie last year which is expected. Even Parcells has said it typically takes 2-3 years for offensive linemen to develop into NFL linemen.

-Reality

 

[junk]

frankly some here just have a hate on for Petitti. Pretty sad. Just like the Bledsoe haters, romo haters, Henson haters, just plain blind and unwilling to admit any ability on the HATEE's part at all. Petitti is doing much better this then the way he ended last year- WHICH untill the last 3 games was not as bad as SOME here want you to believe. 1/2 of his sacks given up CAME in the LAST 3 GAMES when he was worn down, injured and had hit the wall.
BP knows he has a solid guy there and is looking hard at Columbo, McQ and Fabini to see what he has there.

No, some people just want the team to get better. If it is an improved Petitti, that's fine. If it's one of these other guys, that's fine too. How many sacks did the tackles give up last year? We aren't imagining it.

Some people love a player so much around here that they take any criticism of that player as a personal insult.

Where are Torrin Tucker's supporters?

 

[burmafrd]

Just how many posts has Dbair on in this thread ragging on Petitti? Answers the question of who is obsessed. There was a definite pressure up the middle last year - Rivera was not doing well and LA was missing some as well. Bledsoe did not step up much. Now maybe that was partly Bledsoe's fault as well but it still happened. I can remember several sacks where He was not stepping up. And he could have. Either he did not want to, did not think to, or could not.

 

[junk]

Just how many posts has Dbair on in this thread ragging on Petitti? Answers the question of who is obsessed. There was a definite pressure up the middle last year - Rivera was not doing well and LA was missing some as well. Bledsoe did not step up much. Now maybe that was partly Bledsoe's fault as well but it still happened. I can remember several sacks where He was not stepping up. And he could have. Either he did not want to, did not think to, or could not.

I remember several sacks where the defensive ends blew by the tackles as well.

If anyone can sit here and try to tell me that tackle play was not a serious weakness (and that the entire offense suffered when Flo went down), then I don't think they watched any games or are seriously fooling themselves.

 

[Reality]

I know the guy gets a lot of love from TPTB around here since his Dad is a poster, but blaming his poor play on the center is a new one.

Actually, I blamed #52 all last year .. I was consistent the whole season. #52 was our worst lineman last year which made the rest of the line even worse .. the old "chain as strong as its weakest link" saying goes here.

Petitti and Tucker were both subpar all of last year.

I don't disagree with this. I'm not saying if we had an all-pro center last year, Petitti would have been an all-pro. I'm simply saying that blaming all of the sacks charged to Petitti on him alone is wrong. #52's poor play from the pressure up the middle caused Bledsoe to fade left and right directly into oncoming pass rushes.

I do find it odd that he isn't playing more at that right tackle spot. If he was truly in the plans, I really hope he'd be getting more reps. I don't care if he did start 16 games, he needs the reps.

I don't disagree with this at all.

Like someone else said, I think BP is grooming him for that swing tackle position.

I agreed with this as well but that doesnt' eliminate him from playing right tackle either as a starter or backup.

-Reality

 

[Reality]

I remember several sacks where the defensive ends blew by the tackles as well.

If anyone can sit here and try to tell me that tackle play was not a serious weakness (and that the entire offense suffered when Flo went down), then I don't think they watched any games or are seriously fooling themselves.

No one is saying the tackle's performance was impressive or even adequate last year. It seems that everyone picks sides here and you either love or hate a player. Why can't you see what we're saying? We're simply saying that Petitti and Tucker were not as bad as the sack stats being used to slam them lead you to believe. Remember, Petitit was a rookie last year. Both the guards and center (#52) weren't.

-Reality

 

[burmafrd]

Of course Petitti by the end of the season was not much good at all. BUT he was decent for most of the season. SOME here will not admit he did any good at all. I think he did OK for all the problems he had- new position, weight loss, strength problems, hitting the wall, injuries. He will be a lot better this year and BP already knows it. Is he really good? NO. BUT he is at least average and should improve.

 

[junk]

I agreed with this as well but that doesnt' eliminate him from playing right tackle either as a starter or backup.

-Reality

Uh, right.....that is the idea behind a swing tackle.....he backs up both left and right tackle.

 

[junk]

Of course Petitti by the end of the season was not much good at all. BUT he was decent for most of the season. SOME here will not admit he did any good at all. I think he did OK for all the problems he had- new position, weight loss, strength problems, hitting the wall, injuries. He will be a lot better this year and BP already knows it. Is he really good? NO. BUT he is at least average and should improve.

He was decent when he was getting help.

Personally, I'd like better than average.

I hope someone emerges in this race and grabs the job.

 

[burmafrd]

I am thinking Columbo is the leader at RT now.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Actually, if you go back and watch a lot of the games and pay attention to #52, you will see why the tackles gave up so many sacks .. Bledsoe had to move to the left and right so much due to pressure up the middle that he walked right into the outside pass rush.

I'm not saying Petitti is going to start this year, I'm simply saying he's not as bad as he was made out to be last year due to #52. I suspect he will either be the starting right tackle or swing tackle backup.

-Reality

You just wait until AdamJT13 sees this mister!

You're really asking for a beat-down aren't you?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

For once I'd like to see some folks step up and give the "credit" for at least 10 of our sacks to the person that deserves them-- Bledsoe.

You put ANY QB back there other then David Carr, Bledsoe and Rob Johnson and we wouldn't have had 40 sacks on the season.

 

[yesfan]

One way or another,Petitti is on this team.I
believe, he played all 16 games last year,and
has worked as hard as anyone to at the very least,given
Parcells an option for either side of the line.I don't know
about who starts,but this would be a real surprise if Bill
were to cut the kid.

 

[dbair1967]

So, by that you're saying TO won't start the season if he doesn't play with the starters in preseason?

You are also saying Vanderjaqt won't start the season if he doesn't play with the starters in preseason?



-Reality

I think you know what I meant, but in case you didnt...

Owens is an all-pro calibar WR...he is injured, thats why he isnt playing...Vanderjact is a probowl calibar PK, he isnt kicking because he is hurt

you dont see DeMarcus Ware being tried at ILB do you? you dont see them moving Anhtony Henry to FS so they can see what Lenny Williams can do at CB do you? No, they are lining up with the starters at the positions they will start at

if Petitti was THE guy at RT, he'd be playing with the starters at RT...I dont know why some cant see that...

David

 

[dbair1967]

Just how many posts has Dbair on in this thread ragging on Petitti? Answers the question of who is obsessed. There was a definite pressure up the middle last year - Rivera was not doing well and LA was missing some as well. Bledsoe did not step up much. Now maybe that was partly Bledsoe's fault as well but it still happened. I can remember several sacks where He was not stepping up. And he could have. Either he did not want to, did not think to, or could not.

obsessed? so if you make a few posts in a thread does that make you obssesed with something?

I guess some just cant see the forest for the trees

David

 

[Rack]

To blame the center for the troubles our tackles suffered last year is LAUGHABLE. The center is the one player on the OL who is LEAST responsible for pass protection. And there is nothing wrong with Al Johnson's pass protection anyway, it's his run blocking that blows.


If any pressure up the middle somehow gave our tackles troubles (?) then it was due to our guards, not our tackles.


And the answer to the original question is YES, Petitti could end up getting cut. Doesn't mean he will, but any of those guys at tackle - except Flo - could end up getting cut.