Cowboys had a deal to move back into third round for another lineman, Stephen Jones says

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You don't know that.

From all that has been said, he is not starting. He will be used on passing downs until he develops. He needs to gain weight and develop his rushing defense. He needs to get stronger and work on his pass rushing moves as well. He is far from a finished product.
 

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From all that has been said, he is not starting. He will be used on passing downs until he develops. He needs to gain weight and develop his rushing defense. He needs to get stronger and work on his pass rushing moves as well. He is far from a finished product.

There are a lot of 'passing downs' in today's NFL. He will make an impact, but won't have to be a 3 down player to do so.
 

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So if your Defensive Coordinator loves the guy and tells you he's the one difference making pass rusher left in the draft. A player you desperately need for your defense. Do you ignore him? I hate giving up picks but they had to get Lawrence.

I agree, you don't ignore him.
 

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There are a lot of 'passing downs' in today's NFL. He will make an impact, but won't have to be a 3 down player to do so.

We will see. I don't expect double digit sacks or anything like that. I don't think opposing offenses are going to rework their game plan because of him. That would be an impact if he did either. I expect some flashes of his talent and some rookie mistakes.
 

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We will see. I don't expect double digit sacks or anything like that. I don't think opposing offenses are going to rework their game plan because of him. That would be an impact if he did either. I expect some flashes of his talent and some rookie mistakes.

They didn't have to double Ware or Hayden last year and were able to shift help to Selvie and Hatcher's side. With no depth they all wore down as the year went on. The biggest difference I see is that there are 7-8 capable guys switching in instead of 3 or 4 like last year. A fresher, more balanced DL should help the entire D.
 

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So if your Defensive Coordinator loves the guy and tells you he's the one difference making pass rusher left in the draft. A player you desperately need for your defense. Do you ignore him? I hate giving up picks but they had to get Lawrence.

To me this was just like the Fredrick pick, not the trade but the pick. This must have been the last shot they were gonna have at getting an immediate starter. Fredrick was called a reach and might have been but he might have also been the last chance to get an immediate starter at his position.
 

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I guess it depends if you want two players with 1st round grades (supposedly #11 and #20 on their board) or two 3rds. But 78 would not have been Jackson or Martin it would have been Trai Turner who they had a 2nd round grade on. The other pick might have been Justin Ellis or Cassius Marsh two players they supposedly liked. If they got Jernigan though Ellis may have been overkill at the 1 tech.

Ok...
26-Lawrence (rated 1st) 47-Jernigan (1st? 2nd?) 78-T. Turner (2nd) 83-C. Marsh (2nd? 3rd?) vs. 16-Z. Martin(1st) 34-Lawrence(1st)...

I don't see the 2 1st's vs 2 3rd's, with the depth of this draft it's hard to imagine you would not be able to get a player rated high. I'm certain there would have been a player rated 2nd at 47 (pretty sure a 1st rounder too), as you said we know there was a 2nd at 78 (T. Turner) and odds are a 2nd at 83 too, at worst a "high" 3rd.

At worst I see 1st, 1st grades vs. 1st, 2nd, 2nd & 3rd
At Best 1st, 1st vs. 1st, 1st, 2nd & 2nd.

Again, I think Z. Martin was the best PICK at 16 and Lawrence a good prospect, but IF you had to have Lawrence (I would never agree with having to have 1 player in a draft), I don't think you can call it "the best move" to pick Zack at 16 and use 47 and 78 to get Lawrence. Not in a draft as deep as this with a team with as many holes as this.
 
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