Cowboys interest in Eric Weddle *Signs With Ravens*

[Silver N Blue]

I wish he knew it was ok to sign others besides our own guys.

But his year the only one I feel like we've missed out on was Lamar Miller. The prices for these corners and d-lineman have been crazy

Agree Miller was the guy i wanted. He wouldn't have broke the bank and would have opened up the options at number 4 in the draft.

 

[Kaiser]

I dont like Ramsey as cb but it's really on the new db coach to develop him because he does look like Sherman.

I haven't studied him a lot but my current impression is that he isn't worth a top five pick. If he is, it has to be as a CB and not a Safety IMO and signing Weddle would probably mean they would only consider him as a CB (if they think he can play the position).

Weddle is the perfect guy to add to this secondary.

 

[mattjames2010]

If by tomorrow you could get me Weddle and Thornton which might mean the end of Church and Hayden, I'd be one happy fella.

Yeah, but we didn't get Miller or Williams on day one!

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Eric Weddle would be a great addition, but I would wonder what this would mean for Byron Jones and what it would mean if we drafted Jalen Ramsey.

Would both Jones and Ramsey play on the outside then?

Not that I'm against that, but I think wouldn't be using them at their best.

That would be a great secondary though.

You get Hardy and Thornton in free agency and all of a sudden you have a good defense.

Non playmaker Jalen Ramsey, doubt that makes it a great secondary.

 

[Sydla]

Reading Raiders are the favorites right now.

Of course they are.

But if he doesnt end up in Dallas, I'll want to see what he got before I rant. He was asking for huge dollars last summer and if someone gives him close to that, I wouldn't want him.

 

[stilltheguru88]

Non playmaker Jalen Ramsey, doubt that makes it a great secondary.

Interceptions arent the only way to make plays

 

[Sydla]

Yeah, but we didn't get Miller or Williams on day one!

I was talking more about how exciting it would be to potentially lose Hayden and Church, who suck.

Fact is, I still think we screwed the pooch not signing one of Miller or Williams to fill a need.

 

[gimmesix]

According to Brian broaddas and Mike Fisher. Mike Fisher said thank you management so according to him someone leaked the info to him. Would be an upgrade for us.

I can't see Dallas being interested in Weddle if they plan to keep Jones at free safety.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Interceptions arent the only way to make plays

And getting 3 int's in 4 years also isn't the only way to make plays.

 

[Sydla]

This. I'm not getting excited over any big name players linked to us. And I'm ok with it because I know we are focusing on building through the draft and keeping cap space available to maintain our Oline as they come off rookie contracts

People really need to stop with this whole we can't sign even a small number of somewhat pricey FAs because we have to resign our OL in 2+ years from now.

 

[NEODOG]

See, now you had to go and depress me.

Sign Weddle, Jones goes back to CB, Church still starts opposite Weddle.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Ramsey will come into play here

 

[mattjames2010]

People really need to stop with this whole we can't sign even a small number of somewhat pricey FAs because we have to resign our OL in 2+ years from now.

Uh, it's a valid point. "2+" years from now, no. Frederick is on the final year of his contract, I want money going to one of the best centers in football rather than putting money into a big name, aging FA.

- Sign Frederick, have extra money left over still for potential better FA in the future
- Sign Frederick, plus aging FA that may demand a decent 2-3 year contract could keep us from a decent FA in the future

It's about investing in the future. Frederick has a future here, Weddle has potential of a 2 year cycle. I'm not against signing Weddle, but we do need to keep an eye on our cap to keep this line intact.

 

[Sydla]

Uh, it's a valid point. "2+" years from now, no. Frederick is on the final year of his contract, I want money going to one of the best centers in football rather than putting money into a big name, aging FA.

- Sign Frederick, have extra money left over still for potential better FA in the future
- Sign Frederick, plus aging FA that may demand a decent 2-3 year contract could keep us from a decent FA in the future

It's about investing in the future. Frederick has a future here, Weddle has potential of a 2 year cycle. I'm not against signing Weddle, but we do need to keep an eye on our cap to keep this line intact.

It's not valid. Cap will continue to go up. Cowboys will have some money coming off the books. You could have signed Mario Williams to help fix the pass rush and his contract is over well before Frederick is up. And Lamar Miller's $14MM guaranteed certainly isn't going to preclude you from signing Frederick in 2 years. Plus in two years, you don't know what Romo's condition is. He might be done which would be a huge cap relief.

Then, you don't even know about players you might draft now. Maybe you draft a kid in the 3rd round a year from now who turns out to be a great center himself and that gives you the luxury of letting Frederick go. Or another kid you draft at another position allows you to move on from a higher priced guy at another spot.

There are so many variables at play here to say with certainty that you can't spend now because you have to sign Frederick two years from now.

 

[egn22]

People really need to stop with this whole we can't sign even a small number of somewhat pricey FAs because we have to resign our OL in 2+ years from now.

so who do you want?

 

[phildadon86]

Uh, it's a valid point. "2+" years from now, no. Frederick is on the final year of his contract, I want money going to one of the best centers in football rather than putting money into a big name, aging FA.

- Sign Frederick, have extra money left over still for potential better FA in the future
- Sign Frederick, plus aging FA that may demand a decent 2-3 year contract could keep us from a decent FA in the future

It's about investing in the future. Frederick has a future here, Weddle has potential of a 2 year cycle. I'm not against signing Weddle, but we do need to keep an eye on our cap to keep this line intact.

While i agree with your sentiment, and the premise of your argument. The fact remains, the cap is continuously increasing as well, so that alleviates the affect of even a 2 year deal at average money. Thats my thoughts on it at least.

 

[egn22]

It's not valid. Cap will continue to go up. Cowboys will have some money coming off the books. You could have signed Mario Williams to help fix the pass rush and his contract is over well before Frederick is up. And Lamar Miller's $14MM guaranteed certainly isn't going to preclude you from signing Frederick in 2 years. Plus in two years, you don't know what Romo's condition is. He might be done which would be a huge cap relief.

Then, you don't even know about players you might draft now. Maybe you draft a kid in the 3rd round a year from now who turns out to be a great center himself and that gives you the luxury of letting Frederick go. Or another kid you draft at another position allows you to move on from a higher priced guy at another spot.

There are so many variables at play here to say with certainty that you can't spend now because you have to sign Frederick two years from now.

No one is saying w certainty you can't spend anything now. But signing 30+ year old safeties to big contracts isn't the best strategy IMO. I agree that Mario Williams would've been nice but I don't think he's the end all be all.
We need to wait and see how it plays out.

 

[CATCH17]

Non playmaker Jalen Ramsey, doubt that makes it a great secondary.

Type in Jaylen Ramsey vs On YouTube and come back and try to say he isn't a playmaker.

 

[Avery]

I'd take Flo from Geico over Wilcox at this point.

 

[Sydla]

so who do you want?

I would have definitely signed either Miller to take care of our TB situation or signed Williams to alleviate arguably our biggest need, pass rush. One or the other. You can't fill every need in FA but there are enough of them that signing one guy at one spot takes some pressure off other areas.

For example, Williams got a 2 year deal where the Dolphins can walk away next year for only $2MM in dead money. So even if you keep him for 2 years, he's off the books when you have to start re-signing OL.

I hope they do sign Thornton. I hope they stay away from Carroll. He's cheap but he stinks. I think they'd be wise to look at a Patrick Robinson at CB and possible Weddle if his price is fair.

Cut Carr, cut Church, restructure Smith or Crawford or Bryant and you have more than enough cap space still left.

And in signing Williams, Weddle, Robinson and Thornton, I've put less pressure on my team to absolutely have to nail a bunch of picks in this coming draft to be immediate impact players.

 

[mattjames2010]

It's not valid. Cap will continue to go up. Cowboys will have some money coming off the books. You could have signed Mario Williams to help fix the pass rush and his contract is over well before Frederick is up. And Lamar Miller's $14MM guaranteed certainly isn't going to preclude you from signing Frederick in 2 years. Plus in two years, you don't know what Romo's condition is. He might be done which would be a huge cap relief.

Then, you don't even know about players you might draft now. Maybe you draft a kid in the 3rd round a year from now who turns out to be a great center himself and that gives you the luxury of letting Frederick go. Or another kid you draft at another position allows you to move on from a higher priced guy at another spot.

There are so many variables at play here to say with certainty that you can't spend now because you have to sign Frederick two years from now.

You guys act like the "cap going up" completely fixes bad signings. It doesn't, it never has. Some of you took the Stephen Jones "Cap is organic" comment and ran with it. The growing cap isn't going to completely fix teams in this league that threw big contracts at multiple players that turned out to be bad signings. That's what you need to avoid.

With the way you've been the past day or so, I'm guessing this is how you react every off-season. Begging for an aging FA to be signed, crying when it doesn't happen; continually stack bad contract on top of bad contract and it adds up.

Weddle is not a must sign, he's a risk and one we may not be wanting to take. Yes, our young players that we drafted and have a future here need to be taken into consideration.